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DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:42 AM Jul 2020

Tammy Duckworth for VP?

She has always been high on my list but this article really got me thinking. If I was a Republican, I would be really nervous if Biden picked her. Trump is going to flag hump and mud sling a lot and a war hero Democrat is just the thing to shove it back down their throats.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509882-dont-count-out-duckworth-in-biden-vp-race

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Tammy Duckworth for VP? (Original Post) DIVINEprividence Jul 2020 OP
she really is NOT VP material, when many others are way better suited beachbumbob Jul 2020 #1
What makes you say that? I like her but I see her from afar. What is she lacking? Squinch Jul 2020 #3
My wife in her state job, had to deal with Tammy when she was a Rep in Illinios and she will tell beachbumbob Jul 2020 #4
What specifically, though? Has she made mistakes that you can point to? Because I just Squinch Jul 2020 #6
We know her from directly dealing with her. She is a fine person but being presidential material beachbumbob Jul 2020 #13
So nothing specific. OK, thanks. Squinch Jul 2020 #18
His cousin's mother's sister saw her in a hallway once BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #42
Obviously you want someone else which does not mean you can attack a Democrat... Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #56
Well that settles it then. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #14
LOL! Squinch Jul 2020 #19
I know, you don;t like other;s opinions, ok beachbumbob Jul 2020 #20
I don't like moronic opinions based on nothing. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #23
I agree, you have no basis for your comment beachbumbob Jul 2020 #38
Lol BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #39
She seems smart enough... FM123 Jul 2020 #16
not saying she is a slouch, beachbumbob Jul 2020 #22
I was referring to your comment that she is no intellectual genius FM123 Jul 2020 #27
not an intellectual genius doesn't mean being a slouch beachbumbob Jul 2020 #37
With all due respect you couldn't walk a mile in her shoes on your best day, sir BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #43
You wrote she is no intellectual genius Bradshaw3 Jul 2020 #44
right... catsudon Jul 2020 #32
Please. Let's not use Trump as the measuring stick! Solomon Jul 2020 #36
Is your wife or you an "intellectual genius"? LexVegas Jul 2020 #51
You should delete this...that is an attack on a Democrat. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #55
Obviouly since she only earned 3 degrees whistler162 Jul 2020 #62
She would be a great VP...so I disagree...the only other choice I consider as good Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #54
She's badass. Jamastiene Jul 2020 #2
I like Kamala & the others but... WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #5
Remember what they did to Max Cleland? And on ALBliberal Jul 2020 #7
They'll brutalize whatever candidate it is. But in the wake of the completely unaddressed Squinch Jul 2020 #24
Nonsense. This is a different sort of year and they can do that with any candidate... Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #26
So we should let the GOP dictate the pick and how we run the race? BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #29
They have obviously attacked our candidates military ALBliberal Jul 2020 #30
President Biden North Shore Chicago Jul 2020 #8
She would be a great VP! kentuck Jul 2020 #9
No. The VP decision should be determined by "Who would be most qualified to be POTUS?" and Atticus Jul 2020 #10
Wrong. There is only one criteria for the VP pick Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #11
In most prior elections, that would be very important. Not in this one. The VP pick Atticus Jul 2020 #15
Yeah that's what we thought in 16 Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #35
And, it is too important to treat it as a political chess game. Substance is more crucial than Atticus Jul 2020 #41
You are being naive Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #45
Yeah, you're right. Let's choose Oprah. She's awfully popular and Atticus Jul 2020 #47
To win an election yes Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #49
I rest my case. nt Atticus Jul 2020 #50
What case? Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #52
Thanks again. Nt Atticus Jul 2020 #53
Nice evasion Trumpocalypse Jul 2020 #61
Looking ahead to 24 or 28, she can win an election...thus she is my choice and Joe will easily work Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #21
What do you think she is lacking that others have? Squinch Jul 2020 #25
While she is effective as a senator and a surrogate, I just don't see evidence that she easily Atticus Jul 2020 #31
Thanks. Squinch Jul 2020 #33
by that criteria, then hiilary catsudon Jul 2020 #34
The flag humpers are racists. Duckworth would be a great VP but not because of those types JI7 Jul 2020 #12
I adore Tammy and say yes. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #17
I think she checks all the boxes tavernier Jul 2020 #28
She's perfect on paper. I don't find her an inspirational speaker though. Bucky Jul 2020 #48
So other than one person BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #40
No longer a Duckworth fan 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2020 #46
We have no way to stop any judges and the judges in question are in Illinois. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #57
The fact that she was FINE with the nomination of an anti-choice judge when 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2020 #58
Unbrilliant! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #60
I hope she gets the nod. If there was a chance of putting a pro-choice judge on the court, it would Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #63
She didn't just bow to a fait accompli. She added this statement: 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2020 #65
Originally she and Hilda Solis were my top two choices. StevieM Jul 2020 #59
Absolutely no to Susan Rice...I don't want to hear about Benghazi endlessly ...yeah I know it Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #64
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. she really is NOT VP material, when many others are way better suited
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:46 AM
Jul 2020

she is our Senator and we support her absolutely for that. She would make a great VA director for sure as our VA system is in tatters

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. My wife in her state job, had to deal with Tammy when she was a Rep in Illinios and she will tell
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:53 AM
Jul 2020

you Tammy is no intellectual genius at any level. Many other well qualified picks to choose from.

Squinch

(50,944 posts)
6. What specifically, though? Has she made mistakes that you can point to? Because I just
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:55 AM
Jul 2020

love her and she appears pretty smart to me.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
13. We know her from directly dealing with her. She is a fine person but being presidential material
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jul 2020

requires more than that

FM123

(10,053 posts)
16. She seems smart enough...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jul 2020

She's not exactly a slouch - she does have three college degrees including a PhD

FM123

(10,053 posts)
27. I was referring to your comment that she is no intellectual genius
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:35 AM
Jul 2020

and I was responding that she seems smart enough.

BannonsLiver

(16,366 posts)
43. With all due respect you couldn't walk a mile in her shoes on your best day, sir
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:16 AM
Jul 2020

Who in the hell do you think you are to impugn a war hero’s intellectual capacity? Because your wife ran into her in a hallway once? What a bunch of twaddle.

Bradshaw3

(7,507 posts)
44. You wrote she is no intellectual genius
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jul 2020

A phrase which anyone would take as meaning she is not all that bright. Please explain how someone with a Ph.D is not all that bright. As others have asked, some specific examples of her lack of intellectual acuity would be helpful. I have seen her talk and be interviewed several times and she seems pretty bright to me. Perhaps your wife was slighted somehow and this is how she got her take on this Democratic senator.

catsudon

(839 posts)
32. right...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jul 2020

trump is so much better than her right? not trying to put words in your mouth, but it looks that way

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
62. Obviouly since she only earned 3 degrees
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

including a Ph.D. and learned to fly a helicopter in combat conditions!

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
54. She would be a great VP...so I disagree...the only other choice I consider as good
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

would be Val Demmings.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
2. She's badass.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:49 AM
Jul 2020

I think it would be great if she could be VP, but I think it would mobilize the Republicans almost as much as Hillary running for president did though. It would be something that would make them determined to vote in droves.

She is a badass though. I like her.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
5. I like Kamala & the others but...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 07:55 AM
Jul 2020

the more I learn about Tammy, the more impressed I am and hope that Biden picks her.

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
7. Remember what they did to Max Cleland? And on
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:12 AM
Jul 2020

a different level John Kerry? Republicans are masterful at turning our candidates strengths into weaknesses (especially when measured against weaknesses in their own candidates). It almost seems to be even more effective with military service records which in my opinion should be off limits. But for them the lower they place themselves morally and ethically the more inexplicably they are able to turn the tables on our candidates and we end up defending these valorous brave soldiers.
Picking the right VP will be so tricky. A lesson in reverse psychology.
I like Tammy Duckworth she would make a fine VP. But I worry. Heck seems all I do these days.

Squinch

(50,944 posts)
24. They'll brutalize whatever candidate it is. But in the wake of the completely unaddressed
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:33 AM
Jul 2020

Russian bounties, I don't think impugning her valor will go over very well.

I say bring it.

BannonsLiver

(16,366 posts)
29. So we should let the GOP dictate the pick and how we run the race?
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:38 AM
Jul 2020

Interesting flex. I’m not sure I agree, to be honest.

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
30. They have obviously attacked our candidates military
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jul 2020

records successfully before. Yes they will attack
anyone. Notice Trumps not getting knocked for the Russian Bounties to any extent at all. They have a strange way of positively owning the military patriotism angle it is baffling.

Peace.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
10. No. The VP decision should be determined by "Who would be most qualified to be POTUS?" and
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jul 2020

"Who can I best work with?"

I like Tammy, but believe there are several others on the list who would be better successors to Joe.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
11. Wrong. There is only one criteria for the VP pick
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:21 AM
Jul 2020

Who will best help the ticket win the election. Because if they don’t win everything else is irrelevant.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
15. In most prior elections, that would be very important. Not in this one. The VP pick
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jul 2020

will not change the outcome: Biden will win handily.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
35. Yeah that's what we thought in 16
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:59 AM
Jul 2020

Over confidence will be our doom. This election is too important to take any chances.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
41. And, it is too important to treat it as a political chess game. Substance is more crucial than
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:06 AM
Jul 2020

appearances---as Al Gore proved with his politically correct pick.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
45. You are being naive
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:26 AM
Jul 2020

Whoever best helps win the election is crucial. Nothing else matters. That is the mistake both Gore and Clinton made.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
49. To win an election yes
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

And if Oprah would be the best to ensure winning, I would fully support her.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
21. Looking ahead to 24 or 28, she can win an election...thus she is my choice and Joe will easily work
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:32 AM
Jul 2020

with her. Val Demmings would be my second choice as she bring us Florida maybe.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
31. While she is effective as a senator and a surrogate, I just don't see evidence that she easily
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:46 AM
Jul 2020

considers the "big picture". She can be a "bulldog" when focused on a specific issue, but a VP or a POTUS, MUST be able to compartmentalize and juggle multiple problems.

That's my opinion and it's worth what it cost you. OF COURSE I will bust my butt to elect a Biden/Duckworth ticket if that is who Joe chooses.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
12. The flag humpers are racists. Duckworth would be a great VP but not because of those types
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jul 2020

They would hate her because she is a woman and asian . Just look at how they treated McCain who was a conservative white man .

Bucky

(53,987 posts)
48. She's perfect on paper. I don't find her an inspirational speaker though.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jul 2020

I don't know squat one way or the other about how good she would be in the Oval. I will leave that judgment call to Joe Biden.

However one of the top job requirements of a VP candidate is motivating millions to engage, help get out the vote, and feel like their contribution is important. I haven't seen Tammy Duckworth deliver a barnburner. If a Joe picks her, I hope she's got that in her.

BannonsLiver

(16,366 posts)
40. So other than one person
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jul 2020

Whose wife’s cousin’s sister’s brother once met her in a hallway and didn’t think she was too bright most here seem to like her.

Edit: And one more on some nutty purity grounds.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,973 posts)
58. The fact that she was FINE with the nomination of an anti-choice judge when
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jul 2020

she absolutely could have opposed it instead of supporting it means that I do not support HER for VP and I hope she does not get the nomination.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
63. I hope she gets the nod. If there was a chance of putting a pro-choice judge on the court, it would
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jul 2020

be different.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,973 posts)
65. She didn't just bow to a fait accompli. She added this statement:
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jul 2020

"He has the qualifications, integrity, and judgment to serve with distinction as a district court judge in the Southern District of Illinois. We appreciate the Administration’s willingness to work with us and with our nonpartisan screening committee to reach consensus on nominees who will serve the people of Illinois well. We look forward to guiding his nomination through the Senate.”

What a slap in the face to the women of IL who want and need their reproductive rights to be respected.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
59. Originally she and Hilda Solis were my top two choices.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

Now I think I would like it if Biden picked Susan Rice.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
64. Absolutely no to Susan Rice...I don't want to hear about Benghazi endlessly ...yeah I know it
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jul 2020

was not her fault but why give them this sort of opening?

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