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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:02 PM Aug 2020

Pickup Trucks Are Getting Huge. Got a Problem With That?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pickup-trucks-are-getting-huge-got-a-problem-with-that-11596254412

A FEW MONTHS ago, on an ordinary day in an unremarkable Costco parking lot, I was nearly squashed by an unusually large pickup. Thank God I was wearing a mask. As that chrome grille closed on me like a man-eating Norelco shaver, time slowed. It seemed I was watching myself from afar, being nimble for a man my age, darting from the path of a towering, limousine-black pickup with temporary plates, whose driver barely checked his pace. Jerk.

What the hell was that thing? A 2020 GMC Sierra HD Denali? It was huge! The domed hood was at forehead level. The paramedics would have had to extract me from the grille with a spray hose, like Randall Jarrell’s ball-turret gunner. He didn’t even see me.

Later, returning to my car, I noticed something: The parking lot was dotted with similarly enormous luxury pickups—many new, many taking up two spaces: Ram, Ford, Chevy, GMC. They stood out like Percherons in a herd of Shetland ponies. What is going on here? When did pickups get so big? And why are XL-sized pickups so big now?

I know. Pickup trucks at Costco. Film at 11. Except that in April, U.S. sales of pickups surpassed automobiles for the first time ever—about 112 years, give or take. Trucks and truck-based sport-utilities now account for roughly 70% of new vehicles sold in the U.S.

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Pickup Trucks Are Getting Huge. Got a Problem With That? (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 OP
Mid-life crisis? On-set of impotence? LakeArenal Aug 2020 #1
I drive a 2015 Sierra. Before that it was an 89 Ford Ranger that ran for many years. PTWB Aug 2020 #25
So was our F150. But hauling stuff and work vehicles are expected to be big. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #45
I noticed on of those new Denalis just this morning Mosby Aug 2020 #2
They always park right next to my little white Toyota leftyladyfrommo Aug 2020 #3
Same here! Ohiogal Aug 2020 #9
I drive a MINI COOPER. Same thing and backing out is more like inching out. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2020 #110
Yes! lillypaddle Aug 2020 #115
I like my 24-year-old Ford Ranger just fine. MineralMan Aug 2020 #4
1994 Ford Ranger - 2900 pounds until I get in it. House of Roberts Aug 2020 #11
Mine's a 1996. 2.3-liter four-banger and a 5-speed manual transmission. MineralMan Aug 2020 #21
The only one who even Sgent Aug 2020 #49
Ford has reintroduced the Ranger. Sadly, they up-sized it MineralMan Aug 2020 #51
'99 F250 Super Duty here ornotna Aug 2020 #31
Toxic masculinity's most formidable icon. Aristus Aug 2020 #5
Tell me about the Ferryboat Aug 2020 #47
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #55
Here in Fla a ton of people need one to tow their speedboat. nt EX500rider Aug 2020 #74
I guess it's a regional thing. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #85
Well we have year round boating and Marina/Hi & Dry fees are very high, so lots boats on trailers EX500rider Aug 2020 #89
And they tow some pretty big boats EX500rider Aug 2020 #90
An F150 or Dodge Ram or regular sized GNC will do that just fine. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #96
F150 tow cap. 5,000 to 8,000lbs - F350 12,000 to 20,000lbs EX500rider Aug 2020 #103
I am not a boating enthusiast. Blue_true Aug 2020 #105
Most the homes on the water in Fla cost big $ and those people want to go out 80 miles to fish.. EX500rider Aug 2020 #106
Really big boats require powerful trucks, I get that. Blue_true Aug 2020 #108
Even worse is the way many of those are driven Clearly fogged in Aug 2020 #6
Yep..I'm in Texas. It's been a problem here for almost 30 years LeftInTX Aug 2020 #43
Some members use the Costco Auto Program to purchase vehicles like this one: John1956PA Aug 2020 #7
Irritates me when I see a disability plate on those. Captain Zero Aug 2020 #61
Uh, yes they are. Neoma Aug 2020 #64
It's like going to the store in a full padded football outfit C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #8
Why buy a small pickup when you can spend a boatload of money.... Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #10
small penis means big truck or fancy sports car. TeamPooka Aug 2020 #12
Please leave me out of this. LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #14
Wow, what a weird comment. nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #53
Here's some medical reading for you TeamPooka Aug 2020 #67
LMAO! nt ecstatic Aug 2020 #69
The MSRP on some of those luxury trucks push $80k. LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #13
Exactly. I don't have that kind of money. I drive a 14 yo Nissan pickup I got for 15k. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #29
That's the way to do it. LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #120
Yep, my little house is worth less than 80k. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #121
They got too tall a while back Red Mountain Aug 2020 #15
I'm 5 ft. tall so I'd need a ladder just to get into one of them. Vinca Aug 2020 #60
A nephew drove his home. It wouldn't go in the garage. Captain Zero Aug 2020 #62
Like dinosaurs they are going to become extinct. jalan48 Aug 2020 #16
The dawn of the cybertruck is upon us blugbox Aug 2020 #56
Unlikely unless boats on trailers & RV trailers are going extinct also. nt EX500rider Aug 2020 #75
But in the meantime fescuerescue Aug 2020 #81
I've sat in one of those new behemoths gay texan Aug 2020 #17
If I bought one of those trucks, I would want the rear passenger compartment Blue_true Aug 2020 #98
I've owned 5 trucks... LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #18
Most Of The Ones RobinA Aug 2020 #113
We've had trucks for decades to pull our travel trailers-- BusyBeingBest Aug 2020 #19
If I looked it up correctly that truck starts at $64,300. CentralMass Aug 2020 #20
They're horrible polluters pattyloutwo Aug 2020 #22
Try backing out surrounded by these in your Volt JCMach1 Aug 2020 #23
Remember the little pickup's? Betty88 Aug 2020 #24
Speaking of little pickups...here's an original Cooper Mini Pickup. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #28
There are tons of used Ford Rangers around. MineralMan Aug 2020 #32
Thanks Betty88 Aug 2020 #73
Some new ones around, too. GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #79
The new Rangers are larger and way more expensive MineralMan Aug 2020 #94
I was afraid that might be the case. GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #101
That's exactly right. Economic utility vehicles work well for most folks. Utility is the key word. yonder Aug 2020 #37
That's what gets me about most of them misanthrope Aug 2020 #93
and the headlites onethatcares Aug 2020 #26
That drives me CRAZY!!!! Coventina Aug 2020 #100
Our Truck is an Beat up 86-I think F250 ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #27
I put a "Veterans for Biden" on the tailgate of my '96 Ranger. MineralMan Aug 2020 #33
That's one of the main reasons I cannot put a Biden bumper sticker on my vehicles... Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #41
Oh my goodness! ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #59
I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate giant pickup trucks. Vinca Aug 2020 #30
Looking at sales, it does appear people want to drive something that big. Kaleva Aug 2020 #52
They were phased out not by lack of demand, but by something known as the "chicken tax" Vinca Aug 2020 #54
Supply and demand. MicaelS Aug 2020 #125
You can't judge demand when something is unavailable to buy. In any case, I think they're working Vinca Aug 2020 #127
All sickly named after the most beautiful parts of the planet they're helping to destroy. nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2020 #34
Most of these trucks are a pointless waste of money and fuel, but ... dawg Aug 2020 #35
A few people use them as work trucks. Most don't. Blue_true Aug 2020 #99
They Are Dangerous To All Other Road Users, Ron Green Aug 2020 #36
Bigger is always better. moondust Aug 2020 #38
Our 2020 Silverado has a 2.7 liter engine. Turbo. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #39
I have a Ranger, 3.0L Delarage Aug 2020 #71
Hi, sounds like it was fun, lols... we have four kids, all adults now... Baked Potato Aug 2020 #72
There are a few answers to your question, but one of them is that these idiots Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #40
We used to call big cars like the Cadillac Sedan DeVille "Gunboats" Liberal In Texas Aug 2020 #42
I call my Mom's 1978 Cadillac Sedan DeVille a land barge csziggy Aug 2020 #76
Honda Fit, Honda Fit, Honda Fit! yonder Aug 2020 #109
I love driving full-size trucks. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #44
As do I. Owl Aug 2020 #66
somehow I would not be surprised.... quickesst Aug 2020 #46
Yea the penis joke fescuerescue Aug 2020 #83
you're right, also.... quickesst Aug 2020 #87
Many posters do exactly the same thing regarding firearm ownership. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #88
haha, yeah.... quickesst Aug 2020 #107
I have a 1990 GMC pick up I used for work. panader0 Aug 2020 #48
Rightly so we call out the objectification of women SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #50
The same comments (virtually word for word) come out when another subject comes up. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #63
I was in Australia Delarage Aug 2020 #57
I have a 2001 Ford Ranger. I wouldn't sell it for anything. Luz Aug 2020 #58
Those rangers of that era are bulletproof fescuerescue Aug 2020 #82
I had a 2010 Chevrolet Avalanche vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #65
Expensive, too. jeffreyi Aug 2020 #68
What gets me is when you're trying to turn, meadowlander Aug 2020 #70
Yes!!! GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #78
I have had the same situation a LOT too. n/t Jamastiene Aug 2020 #86
That has been the reality in my Deep South burg misanthrope Aug 2020 #91
Yes, for such an impoverished county as my home county in NC, Jamastiene Aug 2020 #92
My main problem is that the vast majority of their owners are incapable of driving them safely. GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #77
I have a Ford pickup and it's really too big fescuerescue Aug 2020 #80
I have a 2003 tundra access cab Mosby Aug 2020 #84
The thing that I hate most about people that own those monsters, they are Blue_true Aug 2020 #95
My first car was a "77 CRK7376 Aug 2020 #97
Weird thing about the new Ranger jmowreader Aug 2020 #102
Men with a tiny you-know-what need a big truck and a big gun to compensate DenverJared Aug 2020 #104
What are women who have such things compensating for? Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #111
Both my husband and I drive "big trucks". Ford F150 and Nissan Titan... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #114
ok ok I get it ... truckism is bad DenverJared Aug 2020 #118
... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #123
I Have A Problem With That RobinA Aug 2020 #112
For folks that need a truck.... Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #116
I'm not gonna lie, I want my next car to be a mid sized SUV RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #117
My issues with big trucks and SUVs DenverJared Aug 2020 #119
Yes I've noticed that trucks are getting bigger and bigger. Initech Aug 2020 #122
What a fucking whiner. The Mouth Aug 2020 #124
So many smug people that think they know... MicaelS Aug 2020 #126

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
1. Mid-life crisis? On-set of impotence?
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:06 PM
Aug 2020

Because they are driving the Baja?

I always wondered why people in LA drive a Hummer to the mall.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
25. I drive a 2015 Sierra. Before that it was an 89 Ford Ranger that ran for many years.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:50 PM
Aug 2020

I frequently need to haul things for work and occasionally for home projects. The Sierra is the nicest vehicle I’ve ever owned, by far, and is a joy to drive.

Mosby

(16,260 posts)
2. I noticed on of those new Denalis just this morning
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
Aug 2020

they really are enormous, and very high off the ground.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
3. They always park right next to my little white Toyota
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:10 PM
Aug 2020

Yaris. I take my life in my hands trying to back out of my parking space because I can't see a thing.

Ohiogal

(31,914 posts)
9. Same here!
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
Aug 2020

I can’t tell you how many times I come out from the store to find my Toyota Corolla sandwiched in between two mountains of metal that make it impossible to back out without a backup camera which my car does not have. The hood of those things is practically at my shoulder level. So infuriating!

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
115. Yes!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

I have a compact Toyota, and it's a real bitch when you get those big vans/trucks/SUVs parked on either side of you. Very dangerous. People won't even wear a mask to save lives, don't think they care how intimidating their rides are.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
4. I like my 24-year-old Ford Ranger just fine.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:11 PM
Aug 2020

It's big enough, powerful enough, and has enough capacity for my needs. It's not impressive. It's not scary. It's not loud. It's not fast. It's a little pickup truck I use to haul stuff and as a second car. I've had it now for just over six months, and just recently filled the gas tank for only the second time since I bought it.

Pickups are useful. They are utility vehicles. Trying to make them more than that is pure vanity.

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
11. 1994 Ford Ranger - 2900 pounds until I get in it.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:16 PM
Aug 2020

Bed long enough to haul 4' x 8' sheets of plywood, sheet rock, siding, paneling etc. I don't need more truck than that.

My 1983 Porsche 944, also 2900 pounds until I get in it. Both vehicles at about 150 horsepower. I don't need more car than that either.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
21. Mine's a 1996. 2.3-liter four-banger and a 5-speed manual transmission.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:33 PM
Aug 2020

It gets down the road - eventually. I'm never in a hurry, however, to get to the landfill or the yard waste composting site, the most common destinations for my Ranger. I never worry about it getting dented or scratched or about rust in the Winter. It already has plenty of dents, scratches, and rust.

I did just order a set of loading ramps for it, though. I have to take an old washer and dryer to the scrap yard, and they're too heavy for me to lift into the bed by myself. So, I'll just roll them up the ramp on my two-wheel hand truck. I'm going to hide the ramps though, to keep my neighbors from asking me to help them move their junk more often than they already do.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
49. The only one who even
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

makes a truck like that anymore is Nissan. I like the manual transmission as well -- its useful for towing and is a good theft deterrent system.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
51. Ford has reintroduced the Ranger. Sadly, they up-sized it
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:09 PM
Aug 2020

and made it unaffordable, to boot. I've owned a bunch of small pickups in my lifetime. The smallest one was a Crosley pickup. I had a 70's Toyota Hilux, a little Datsun pickup, a little Dodge Ram 50 with a Mitsubishi engine, a 61 Falcon Ranchero, a 1984 Ranger, and now my 1996 Ranger. I don't always own a pickup, but I keep buying one from time to time when I have jobs for it to do.

I've also owned some full-size pickups, but that was way back in the 1970s, and most of them were 50s models, and pretty small themselves.

ornotna

(10,795 posts)
31. '99 F250 Super Duty here
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:00 PM
Aug 2020

No lift kit, no crazy wheels or tires. The new trucks are easily a foot taller than my truck when side by side. And that's the stock base models. Spend some money and they get even bigger.

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
5. Toxic masculinity's most formidable icon.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:11 PM
Aug 2020

Second only to military-style weaponry to bolster the shaky egos of slack-muscled suburban Rambo wannabes.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
47. Tell me about the
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:01 PM
Aug 2020

I load a roll on roll off ferry boat. It holds 144 vehicles. The tunnel in the center is 15' vertical is for over height commercial trucks.

These larger pickups fit just fine side by side in either the upper or lower wings. Mostly its the younger drivers who pitch a fit when directed anywhere but the tunnel. Common misconception is big trucks belong in the tunnel. Problem is they aren't big enough.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
55. +1000
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:57 PM
Aug 2020

Seriously. Who the hell really NEEDS a pick-up truck, let alone a massively huge one. Are there really that many people in this country who are hauling around shit from place to place on a regular basis? I kind of doubt it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
96. An F150 or Dodge Ram or regular sized GNC will do that just fine. nt
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:54 PM
Aug 2020

The massive trucks like the Ford F-350 is all about showing dominance, IMO. Most of the guys (always guys) that drive them never seem to use them as working trucks, I have seen only one do that, a plumber that I hired to do some work at my home, the others have washed and waxed trucks.

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
103. F150 tow cap. 5,000 to 8,000lbs - F350 12,000 to 20,000lbs
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:02 PM
Aug 2020

I don't think you realize how big Center Consoles have gotten, they can go for over a million dollars and have 4 big outboards on the back.
The Yellowfin 42' for example weights 15,000 lbs.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
105. I am not a boating enthusiast.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:09 PM
Aug 2020

You said speedboats, those tend to be lighter and shouldn’t be an issue for an F150. You showed a big craft that is capable of going far out in the ocean, that is a different deal than what I responded to.

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
106. Most the homes on the water in Fla cost big $ and those people want to go out 80 miles to fish..
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:13 PM
Aug 2020

.that's where the big sport fish are, so they buy really big fast Center Consoles, they are all the rage if you have the $. And to tow one down to the Keys for example you need a BIG truck.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
108. Really big boats require powerful trucks, I get that.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:40 PM
Aug 2020

There are nice water-front homes, some are spectacularly beautiful, especially on the Gulf side. I am conflicted about places like that, I love viewing ocean water-scapes from dry land, but I want nothing to do with being out on that water or swimming in it. We have all types in this state, that is what makes it interesting and fun to live in most of the time.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
6. Even worse is the way many of those are driven
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:12 PM
Aug 2020

It seems as if having one creates a desire to crowd (read bully) other drivers; tailgating, abrupt lane changes, riding the line between lanes. Nuisance drivers is what many become.

LeftInTX

(25,133 posts)
43. Yep..I'm in Texas. It's been a problem here for almost 30 years
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:34 PM
Aug 2020

Ever since monster truck shows started rolling into town.....

Captain Zero

(6,785 posts)
61. Irritates me when I see a disability plate on those.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:16 PM
Aug 2020

I'm sorry. You are NOT very disabled if you can get into one of those and especially if you can drive it.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
64. Uh, yes they are.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:28 PM
Aug 2020

Some people have invisible illnesses and you should not assume someone is not disabled simply because they can walk short distances.

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
8. It's like going to the store in a full padded football outfit
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
Aug 2020

These people are wearing their fear.

And look pretty ridiculous.

Brother Buzz

(36,381 posts)
10. Why buy a small pickup when you can spend a boatload of money....
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:16 PM
Aug 2020

to purchase the newest flashiest ATV that does everything the small pickups used to do.

And, Hell, nothing says styling like loading your ATV into the back of your pickup truck and cruise the Costco parking lot.

Midnight Writer

(21,717 posts)
29. Exactly. I don't have that kind of money. I drive a 14 yo Nissan pickup I got for 15k.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:55 PM
Aug 2020

I plan to get another ten years out of it.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
120. That's the way to do it.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:16 PM
Aug 2020

Brand new full-sized pickups were reasonably priced back in the 80's and 90's...but now you could buy a decent small house where I live for the same price.

Red Mountain

(1,727 posts)
15. They got too tall a while back
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:24 PM
Aug 2020

I'm 6'1" and I can't reach much in the back of one. It's a pain to have to step up into the bed.

Captain Zero

(6,785 posts)
62. A nephew drove his home. It wouldn't go in the garage.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

Ha fucking ha. I loved it.
He didn't think about it when he was buying it.
I guess his MAGA hat was too tight on his head that day.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
81. But in the meantime
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:29 PM
Aug 2020

They are the most popular vehicle purchased.

I don't think they have a reached a point where they decline yet. Let along to extinction.

gay texan

(2,435 posts)
17. I've sat in one of those new behemoths
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

They are shit. My 1971 chevy pickup has far greater visibility and a much better ride.

The price tag on a new truck? 70k. No way in hell for a 4 wheeled penis extension.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
98. If I bought one of those trucks, I would want the rear passenger compartment
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:03 PM
Aug 2020

replaced with a longer bed for hauling things. The only reason why I would buy one is to haul stuff, but a day U-Haul rental works just as good.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
18. I've owned 5 trucks...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Aug 2020

88 Ford F150 work truck, 2WD, 5 speed stick, all vinyl floors, no carpet.

90 Ford F150 XLT Lariat, Automatic, 4WD, carpeted, bells and whistles.

97 Ford Ranger. Automatic. 4WD.

2005 Toyota Tundra, 4WD, Automatic.

2004 Chevy Blazer. Automatic. 4WD.

I loved all of those vehicles, for different reasons.

I would not go near one of those luxury trucks. Too expensive. I'd be afraid to use it like a truck should be used.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
113. Most Of The Ones
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:42 AM
Aug 2020

I see on local roads are way too clean, undinged, and shiny to be used the way a truck should be used. My friend's husband uses his F-250, at least ten years old, for what they are supposed to be used for. And it doesn't look like it just rolled off the showroom floor, to put it mildly. It looks like a truck that does work.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
19. We've had trucks for decades to pull our travel trailers--
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Aug 2020

recently got a motorhome so sold our truck and got a used Honda as a "toad" to pull behind the moho. I liked our trucks (they do come in handy for home improvement, trips to the landfill, etc.) but hated the maneuvering and parking. I couldn't really justify owning one now. On edit--we got base models (Ram Tradesman) or used. Have no idea why you would spend over 40,000 for a truck.

Betty88

(717 posts)
24. Remember the little pickup's?
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:46 PM
Aug 2020

Cute and handy. I want one now that we live in the country but I do not want one of those giant trucks. I need a little one for moving stuff around like my kayak to a new lake, that kind of thing.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
28. Speaking of little pickups...here's an original Cooper Mini Pickup.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:54 PM
Aug 2020


There was one for sale in my area about 20 years ago. I toyed with the idea of buying it, but didn't.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
32. There are tons of used Ford Rangers around.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:01 PM
Aug 2020

You should be able to find one from the 1990s that is in good condition and ready to use for the kinds of things you are talking about. I bought one last year, a 1996, for just $1100. I put four new tires on it and tuned up the engine a little. It should be good for years to come, since I probably won't drive it more than 1000 miles a year.

Check your local Craigs List or Facebook Marketplace. Don't be in a hurry. If you're patient, you'll find a good one for not much money.

Betty88

(717 posts)
73. Thanks
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 04:33 PM
Aug 2020

I wish I knew more about cars or the thought of buying one that old would not frighten me so much.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
79. Some new ones around, too.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

Ford resumed production of the Ranger last year. The old ones were great, little trucks. Don't know much about the current version. I hope they're at least as good.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
94. The new Rangers are larger and way more expensive
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

Not the same truck at all. If someone wants a nice small pickup, a used Ranger is a good choice. A Chevy S10 will work, too, but not as many are available.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
101. I was afraid that might be the case.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:21 PM
Aug 2020

Leave it up to Ford to ruin a good thing. I was has happy to learn they were going to start making them again, but it appears they really haven't done that. Dammit.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
37. That's exactly right. Economic utility vehicles work well for most folks. Utility is the key word.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

There's no fear of scratching/banging some useful little pickup when hauling stuff that might be scratchy/bangy. The shiny, flashy 70k rigs are a Madison Avenue invention for those who think they are regularly going to be hauling pallets of brick, bunk's of 2x4's, etc. by watching too many manly truck commercials. Going to the store for a bag of potatoes and a six-pack then swaggering to and from one of those rigs is ridiculous.

If one needs a work truck get a real work truck. A farm/ranch beater does just fine.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
93. That's what gets me about most of them
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020

You can tell at a glance they aren't being used for what a pick-up was meant to do. So then, what's the point? To use more gasoline, thereby driving up the price of your own fuel? Scrutinize the decision and it breaks down as illogical from a few standpoints.

It's just the effect of allowing themselves to be manipulated. Sort of funny when you think how obstinate and contrarian many of those truck owners can be about their "freedom." Can't make them wear a mask but you can make them buy something they don't need and keep paying for it at the pump.

onethatcares

(16,162 posts)
26. and the headlites
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:50 PM
Aug 2020

hit ya right in the rear view mirror.

I have a 1998 Chev 2500 with std cab. Have it 20 years now with 233K miles on it. No computer, throttle body. Paid 12K out the door and thought that was too much for a pick up truck but it's paid for itself many times and I don't mind loading it with manure, soil, lumber, and any thing else that fits in the bed.

Everytime I see one of those I wonder how long it will take to miss a payment and ruin your credit rating. Crikey, 40k financed over 84 months with insurance, maintenance, tires and repairs. Who the hell is making all the money??? Where? Lawn services can't pay that much.

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
27. Our Truck is an Beat up 86-I think F250
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:52 PM
Aug 2020

We use it to haul dirt and gravel and go to the dump. My husband went and got classic plates for it, which cracks me up.

MineralMan

(146,260 posts)
33. I put a "Veterans for Biden" on the tailgate of my '96 Ranger.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

Coincidentally, someone shot the extended cab side window with a BB gun when I parked it on the street. Related? I'm guessing so. It's parked back in the driveway again.

Fortunately, the window didn't fall out. It just shattered into those chunks, which remained in place. So, I covered it completely with 3M clear packaging tape to keep the chunks all together. I never look out that window anyhow.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,103 posts)
41. That's one of the main reasons I cannot put a Biden bumper sticker on my vehicles...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:25 PM
Aug 2020

here is S. Alabama, they wont be using a bb gun.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
30. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate giant pickup trucks.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:58 PM
Aug 2020

Why does every auto maker assume we want to drive something the size of the Queen Mary? If I had known small trucks would be phased out I would have bought a spare new Toyota pickup back in the 80's and stored it somewhere for future use.

Kaleva

(36,256 posts)
52. Looking at sales, it does appear people want to drive something that big.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:14 PM
Aug 2020

If there was a demand for small pickups, they'd be available.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
54. They were phased out not by lack of demand, but by something known as the "chicken tax"
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:43 PM
Aug 2020

which meant a small pickup would end up with a 25% tax on it, making it too expensive to sell. I just checked again - I do periodically - and apparently there are some manufacturers planning to produce them again. I'll be the first one in line to buy them. I used to watch news footage during the Iraq War and mutter about the trucks the terrorists were driving: small Toyotas. The rest of the world can have them, but we're stuck driving ocean liners around that hold a crew of 8. I thought the king was blabbering about repealing the whole business, but it must have flitted through his head like diarrhea through a diseased colon. In any case, at this point the vehicle manufacturers have to start from scratch with their manufacturing processes so I could be dead first.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
127. You can't judge demand when something is unavailable to buy. In any case, I think they're working
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:03 PM
Aug 2020

on a small pickup/SUV combo that sounds like it will be perfect for those of us who just want to schlep a little mulch hay around or take the trash to the dump on Saturday.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
35. Most of these trucks are a pointless waste of money and fuel, but ...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:14 PM
Aug 2020

some people actually do need them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
99. A few people use them as work trucks. Most don't.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:09 PM
Aug 2020

Here is Florida, I see them polished up better than a top of the line Mercedes. Most of them have never even been in a weed patch, much less hauled a load like concrete blocks or yard waste.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
36. They Are Dangerous To All Other Road Users,
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

especially people walking or cycling; they emit outsized amounts of poison gases, the diesel ones are a noise and smoke hazard, they don’t match the bumper heights of other vehicles, they take up much more parking space, they are rarely used in their capacity for carrying, and yes - they are both a response to and a driver of toxic masculinity in communities of all sizes across this country.

What’s not to like?

moondust

(19,959 posts)
38. Bigger is always better.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:21 PM
Aug 2020

Isn't that a capitalist principle?

Maybe oil companies losing profits due to electrics and hybrids are pushing car companies to make bigger gas guzzlers.

Bigger trucks make it harder to see around them in traffic and in parking spaces.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
39. Our 2020 Silverado has a 2.7 liter engine. Turbo.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:23 PM
Aug 2020

We average over 28 mpg on trips. It is comfortable, hauls all our grown children and grandchildren and all their stuff. It is beautiful and roomy and we can drive all friggen day and night and not get crampy or sore.

I have had all sizes of trucks. We test drove the smaller trucks, the Colorado, Nissan, new Ranger. They all were crampy with shitty seats. We wanted smaller, but the room inside just sucked.

The 2.7 develops 300 hp. We love our truck. In 1980 we loved our full sized Chevy. In 2002 we loved our little S-10. It hauled stuff from Home Depot, but we could never travel in it. For that, we had our Chrysler Town & Country.

Occasional, around town hauling... small truck.

Occasional, around town hauling, and comfort, big truck.

Cross- country visits with 4 full size adults and all their stuff and comfort, big truck.

Delarage

(2,186 posts)
71. I have a Ranger, 3.0L
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 03:11 PM
Aug 2020

It's mileage is not great, but I do generally only use it for around town hauling. My car gets 35 mpg at least. Ranger has no rear seats. On one memorable occasion, I ended up with two other adults and a labrador retriever in it---due to poor planning

We were crammed hip-to-hip with Charlie the dog standing and straddling us, head out passenger window and butt directly in my face. Thank God it was a relatively short trip.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
72. Hi, sounds like it was fun, lols... we have four kids, all adults now...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 03:17 PM
Aug 2020

We’ve had our share of car trips full of kids and groceries, etc. We’re older now, of course, and love the room.

At first, we thought the 2.7 was going no to be gutless, but it’s not, luckily lol.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,103 posts)
40. There are a few answers to your question, but one of them is that these idiots
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:23 PM
Aug 2020

think that gas is going to be $2 a gallon forever. When it gets close to $4 again, as it will, they will be the first ones bitchin about it.

Liberal In Texas

(13,532 posts)
42. We used to call big cars like the Cadillac Sedan DeVille "Gunboats"
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:30 PM
Aug 2020

But these truly are beyond gunboats, maybe Juggernauts or Leviathans.

Don't these people get tired of trying to find parking spaces they can fit into?

I have a Kia Niro PHEV midsized SUV and love the fact it fits into almost any space and I can carry lots of stuff if needed. (Of course in these days of covid it's usually my 2 dogs.)



csziggy

(34,131 posts)
76. I call my Mom's 1978 Cadillac Sedan DeVille a land barge
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:06 PM
Aug 2020

My 1999 GMC Suburban 2500 is named Moby - it's white and as big as a whale.

When I bought the Suburban, I needed a 3/4 ton truck to haul my horse trailer. Now I seldom haul horses, but the truck is paid for and only has 170,000 miles on it. I still need it sometimes to haul stuff for the farm - last week we took a load of logs to the sawmill, Friday picked the lumber sawed from them and stacked it in the toolshed to dry. Without the truck, we'd would have had another pecan tree rot in place. I figure if I take care of the truck at the rate we use it now, it should last me the rest of my life. Our first Suburban died with close to 500,000 miles on it.

The cars we use regularly are my husband's 2014 Prius V and my 2017 Honda Fit, both easy to park, with great gas mileage. Both have room for groceries and a lot of stuff, and a few people, though my Fit is a little cramped for my husband. Since I drive somewhere maybe once a week (before Coronavirus) it might be the last car I buy!

yonder

(9,657 posts)
109. Honda Fit, Honda Fit, Honda Fit!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:49 AM
Aug 2020

Ours is a 2017 also. I love that thing. But then I've always liked small cars. The Fit is a great town car, parks very easily, great gas mileage, and is much more advanced than my old '69 Austin America which was as much fun to drive.

About the only place I would fault it is long trips on the highway. It's short wheelbase means you do a little more steering/correcting and after a long day in the seat, you feel it. For our regular trips from Idaho to Colorado and back, we usually take our older CRV.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
46. somehow I would not be surprised....
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:49 PM
Aug 2020

.... that so many people here on Democratic Underground do not realize how many women there are out there who absolutely love their pickup trucks. Wonder what they're compensating for? 🤔

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
83. Yea the penis joke
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:32 PM
Aug 2020

stopped being clever about 20 years ago.

Yet people still repeat it like they thought it up 5 minutes ago.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
87. you're right, also....
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:19 PM
Aug 2020

.... I don't know where it originated, but I'd say whoever did come up with it must have had issues that I don't think I would want to discuss in public. It's continued use says more about the truck hater than the truck owner.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
107. haha, yeah....
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:37 PM
Aug 2020

I own a handgun, but it's a small handgun, so does that mean I'm decompensating for, well, you know?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
48. I have a 1990 GMC pick up I used for work.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:02 PM
Aug 2020

12 MPG. I only use it very occasionally to carry large stuff--drywall, plywood, gravel, etc.
I mostly drive my 95 Buick Century, 25 MPG, a great little car bought from an old lady.
The vast majority of those big fancy trucks have no scratches in the bed, for the most part
the trucks are never used for their purpose. Old men in unused trucks. I don't get it.
Is it manly? Then use the f'n thing!

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
50. Rightly so we call out the objectification of women
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:08 PM
Aug 2020

we call out the sexism. But then here we are talking about dicks, penises, and impotence.

Maybe we could grow up a little?

I don’t drive a large truck.

Delarage

(2,186 posts)
57. I was in Australia
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:57 PM
Aug 2020

And "Utes" were the most common form of truck---much more practical, I believe. I wondered why we don't have any here. I almost bought a VW Rabbit small diesel pickup to convert to run on vegetable oil, but I chickened out.

[link:https://carbuzz.com/news/australia-says-goodbye-to-the-ford-falcon-ute-but-not-all-hope-is-lost|

Luz

(772 posts)
58. I have a 2001 Ford Ranger. I wouldn't sell it for anything.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:08 PM
Aug 2020

I think they need to make small size again, and maybe make it a little more worker friendly. Both in price and function.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
82. Those rangers of that era are bulletproof
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

I took a look at the new ranger recently.

No thanks. WAY to expensive (almost as much as the F150), but highly compromised in function.

If it's going to have half the towing, carrying and storage capacity, it should cost half as much.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
65. I had a 2010 Chevrolet Avalanche
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:33 PM
Aug 2020

Traded down because I didn't need a huge truck. Went with a Nissan Frontier.

meadowlander

(4,388 posts)
70. What gets me is when you're trying to turn,
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 01:30 AM
Aug 2020

looking both ways and a monster truck or SUV pulls up next to you and you can't see on-coming traffic because their windows are a foot higher than yours. You end up waiting twice as long as you would otherwise need to because they have oncoming traffic and you don't but can't tell.

There should be a standardised front window height and a ban on tinted glass in front seat windows for road safety reasons. Anyone sitting in any sized car should be able to see through the windows of at least the front seat of any car pulled up next to them.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
78. Yes!!!
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:24 PM
Aug 2020

Even without the tinted windows, it's still hard to see past them. What's worse is when they pull into the crosswalk. You can forget making your turn until they're gone. And, they're always trying to make a left-hand turn onto the busiest street in town.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
91. That has been the reality in my Deep South burg
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:55 PM
Aug 2020

For about two decades now. You get on the road and you're immersed in a sea of SUVs and pick-up trucks. This smaller sized city boasted one of the busier GMC Hummer dealers in the nation back in the Bush 43 era.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
92. Yes, for such an impoverished county as my home county in NC,
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:58 PM
Aug 2020

there sure are a lot of ginormous Humvees on the road. I see far too many of them for this to be such an impoverished area. It makes no sense. Where are they getting the money for Humvees?

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
77. My main problem is that the vast majority of their owners are incapable of driving them safely.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:21 PM
Aug 2020

They don't understand that when one sits up that high, they feel like they are going slower than they really are. And, of course, they don't bother looking at the speedometer to see that they're taking that corner at 40 mph. So, they swing into the oncoming traffic in the process. Many also don't seem to understand that they aren't driving their old Toyota Camry anymore, which is why they do things like hog parking spots. They don't know how to drive a fucking tank. It's especially bad where I live, as they're shitty drivers to start out with. They thing the traffic laws are optional. Pair that with a vehicle that's too big for them to handle, and they make the roads are outright deadly.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
80. I have a Ford pickup and it's really too big
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

But what to do? It's not like consumers design these things. I wish mine was much smaller.

I need towing capacity. That capacity doesn't exist in mid size trucks, minivans, or cars. Also doesn't exist except in large SUVs.

I don't know what pickups need to be so much larger than they were a decade or two ago, but that's the way the auto-makers make them.

FWIW, If you got hit a mini-cooper, your body wouldn't faire well either.

Mosby

(16,260 posts)
84. I have a 2003 tundra access cab
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:34 PM
Aug 2020

people still stop me and ask if I want to sell it.

190k and all I have had to replace is a radiator, fan bearing and master cylinder.

I love the standard size and power. The new 1/2 tons are way to big and much to heavy imo. My tundra is only 4200 lbs with almost 300 horses and 12 inches of ground clearance.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
95. The thing that I hate most about people that own those monsters, they are
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:47 PM
Aug 2020

atrocious drivers. They basic skill set for handling a motor vehicle is almost zero.

CRK7376

(2,198 posts)
97. My first car was a "77
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:55 PM
Aug 2020

Corolla I bought from my parents when I returned from my first 3 year tour in Germany. Got me through college and I bought an '85 Nissan King Cab.. Put over 250K on it before trading it in for a 2006 Tacoma. Over 260K on that Tacoma, gave it to my daughter for her collage transportation in 2016 Unfortunately daughter wrecked it about 3 weeks later and too costly to repair. I went back into a Corolla for a year and was making my wife crazy whining about not having a truck. We are very active with Boy Scouting, need to haul camping gear, have a small farm need to haul fence posts, hay bales, any number of things. Got another Tacoma in 2016, and am seriously looking at the Tundra 4x4 or an F150 4x4 in the next 3-4 years. Love my trucks, son number one loves his Prius, son number two is looking for his first truck will either get mine or buy his own and I'll take his Altima and trade it in. Wife loves her 4Runner. I not a fan of the monster trucks or dualies, but they have their place in construction, farming etc...And I take my Tacoma to Costco all the time and luckily for me it is right next door to Lowe's Home Improvement and across the street from a Home Depot, So while my wife is in Costco, I go play in the hardware stores....

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
102. Weird thing about the new Ranger
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:28 PM
Aug 2020

I was thinking about buying one - right now I'm in the middle of a project that involves hauling a lot of building materials, and I couldn't do it in my 2001 Beetle. So, I started looking at larger vehicles.

The 2020 Ranger has almost exactly the same fuel consumption as the 2020 F-150. IIRC the Ranger gets 1MPG better consumption than the F-150 does - which is one of the benefits of making the F-150 body out of aluminum. And the Ranger is not enough smaller than the F-150 to really justify making it.

I wound up with a VW Tiguan, which gets almost as good mileage as the Beetle did, and you sure as hell are not going to put half a ton of porcelain tile in the back of a Bug and go anywhere but the tire store.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
114. Both my husband and I drive "big trucks". Ford F150 and Nissan Titan...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:42 AM
Aug 2020

... it suits our lifestyle and needs very well. Whether it's tent-camping, pulling our RV, stocking-up at Costco, bringing home wood from Lowe's, carrying pets, plants, mulch, feed, etc... we're glad to have them, and we aren't sending-a-message or compensating.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
112. I Have A Problem With That
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:34 AM
Aug 2020

I would have less of a problem if they were good citizens on the road, but they are often not. They are WAY bigger than one needs to haul things, at least in my suburban area. I despise those things. They forge into the gas station, at night tricked out with so many lights they look like a cruise ship, and totally gum up the flow as they wallow around. Why do these things have to be so tall? I don't live anywhere near the Everglades, there's no swamp for 100 miles. It's the same overkill you see with the gigundoo SUVs that used to be everywhere shuttling kids to soccer practice. There seem to be fewer of them lately. Maybe people got sick of negotiating them around parking lots. Not to mention the fact that they speed up and down my road way faster than is safe. People in cars do that too, but at least they aren't driving a brick wall at 60 mph down a residential road.

Towing is a different story, and yep, it's hard to find something reasonable these days that will tow. But I do not live in a big towing area, so the proliferation of these beasts is not due to the need to tow. Plus, the people who tow I know generally leave the Queen Mary a home unless it's towing or some other truck job, seeing as how they are a pain in parking lots. I remember when my uncle used a Ford station wagon to tow a camper. Those days are gone.

Happy Hoosier

(7,219 posts)
116. For folks that need a truck....
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:48 AM
Aug 2020

I don't have an issue.

But it's really a cultural thing around here. Most of these trucks don't haul a damn thing.

And they are HUGE gas hogs.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
117. I'm not gonna lie, I want my next car to be a mid sized SUV
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:51 AM
Aug 2020

I need 4 wheel or all wheel drive for the winter for starters. I've just decided that.

But I do feel a little safer the times I've driven an SUV. People are getting insane out there even with more open roads.

I watched a large black F-150 barrel up behind me Sunday, it was swerving in and out of lanes, cutting off smaller vehicles and weaving thru highway traffic.

On the back window was of course, TRUMP 2020.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
119. My issues with big trucks and SUVs
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:16 PM
Aug 2020

They always park in spaces marked "compact" -- leaves no room for other cars to enter adjoining spaces.

I drive a tiny car which sits low and is delicate .. the big truck doors have a pointy lower corner and those people are always dinging my car.

When I drive behind one of those monsters, I can't even see what is in front of me and exit signs either.

In a parking lot, when I am pulling back and I have a monster on my right, I cannot see what is coming that may hit me until almost my entire car is out. I have been almost hit by a car while pulling back. One shouldn't have to do that.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
122. Yes I've noticed that trucks are getting bigger and bigger.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:21 PM
Aug 2020

The roof of my neighbor's F-150 can literally almost align with the floor of his second story balcony. It's insane.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
126. So many smug people that think they know...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 02:07 PM
Aug 2020

What other people "need".

FWIW I hate motorcycles. No one needs one. Ban them.

See how easy that is?

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