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From the Longmont (Colorado) Times-Call, July 25, 2020:
To be clear: I am not anti-stop sign. I am, however, against mandated stop sign usage. The media narrative that people like me are silly or irresponsible is both offensive and further shows the constant attack against my feelings and desire to avoid inconvenience. I stand against big government, and I will never apologize for being a freedom fighter as I blast through any intersection necessary.
While data show that stop signs may be useful for limiting traffic accidents, injuries, and death, that data is easily proven to be a media conspiracy to thwart our collective freedoms. Despite having stop signs for decades now, people still die frequently in automobile accidents. If stop signs were effective, there would be no more accidents. Instead, big government and mainstream media push this narrative of safety as a manner of restricting freedom of movement.
If I am in a rush to get to work, I may not have time to consider stop signs. The government cannot tell me that I need to stop, that I cannot be on time to earn my money. If a legitimate need for stop signs existed, our Founding Fathers would have placed them in the Constitution. Overarching mandates are a slap in the face to figures like George Washington, who wrote that no government ought to interfere with the movement and safety of citizens: on foot, horse, or vehicle.
Anyone who wants to use stop signs can go ahead and use their brakes. I, however, do not believe everyone should be beholden to this tyranny. Let the people choose!
In summary: Wear your masks a symbol of freedom for others to live. In a world where uncertainty reigns, this basic act of humanity cannot be plagued with childish defiance.
Cayden Stice, Longmont
Link: https://www.timescall.com/2020/07/25/letters-stop-sign-tyranny/
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)unblock
(52,191 posts)hardly anyone has a problem with laws against public nudity, and requiring a covering for nose and mouth is very much like requiring a covering for lower bits.
but the stop sign argument does have the life and death and safety element that requiring underwear doesn't....
klook
(12,154 posts)For example, seatbelt laws protect drivers and passengers, but don't affect the safety of drivers and passengers in other cars. Same with motorcycle helmets. And of course, public nudity does little to endanger public safety -- although I suppose the sight of a naked person could cause extremely distracted driving, or -- in some cases -- cardiac arrest, whether from arousal or horror!
central scrutinizer
(11,646 posts)Since 1982, bicyclists in Idaho have been able to treat stop signs and flashing red lights as yield signs. If the intersection is clear, they can roll right through. This became the law in Oregon on January 1, 2020. Not relevant to the OP.
Iggo
(47,548 posts)I like those laws.
dhill926
(16,336 posts)wonderfully snarky....
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 2, 2020, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Or as I like to call them, "roadblocks to freedom speed"? Specially the ones with fassist crossing gards I seem to incounter out front of those brane-wash fackorys sheeple like to call skools. Hoodoo these loosers think their fooling? They hate kids!
Life is dangerous and we take risks every time we leave the house. Those children should learn that young. That will teach them to look both ways, its not healthy to coddle them or those old people with canes and walkers either. Let them cross wherever they like and learn to be careful or pay the consequences!
I still can't believe that so many idiots are making such a big deal out of wearing masks. What a spoiled, self-indulgent society we've become.
TheRickles
(2,056 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)Now we'll have every Trumpanzee running STOP signs while not wearing masks! Pretty soon it's total anarchy, and we'll never make it until January 20, 2021 for Biden to be sworn in. It's a very slippery slope when you're dealing with total morons.
erronis
(15,228 posts)and let people try to read what they wanted.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213840590
Of course, you'd have to answer a lot of irate people who can't understand sarcasm, irony.
klook
(12,154 posts)But I wanted to post the letter as published for accuracy.
If I'd written it, I would've gone full snark with no softening.
ETA: And yes, there certainly are plenty of those who are irony-challenged, which I'm sure the author considered.
Dios Mio
(429 posts)Sarcasm and irony keep me sane.
erronis
(15,228 posts)I love these self-referential questions about ourselves. If I'm not questioning, I'm not learning.
All things that a petrified brain can't deal with.
Dios Mio
(429 posts)occasionally. Its refreshing. Give it a try.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)(I hope Trump doesn't see this, he's liable to make it legal again. )
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)Having a drivers license is not a right, it is a privilege.
The state allows you to have license on the condition the you abide by their vehicular rules or laws.
That signature at the bottom or your license is your contract to agree to follow the rules of the road.
So to say, I won't stop at STOP signs?
Well, eventually you will lose your license.
IDIOT!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)klook
(12,154 posts)shows the writer was being facetious. No sarcasm tag needed, imho.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)I understood it to be sarcasm, but on the serious side, I get don't like it when people think they can just do what they want on the road.
I had a co-worker, here in San Diego, young guy, probably in his early 20's, that felt that they should be able to street race whenever they wanted to. Especially on the back roads where there is nobody around.
I told him the same thing I mentioned in my original response.
A couple of weekends later, two cars were racing at night in downtown San Diego, somewhere around midnight to 1pm, when one car lost control and ended up killing a newlywed husband, honeymooning couple from mid-west or east coast.
Tragic to say the least.
My co-worker showed up to work on Monday, and was quiet, not a word.
He knew how I felt and didn't want to antagonize me into a lecture.
So if I hear some Trumpette use this example about the stop sign, I will jump down their throat.
erronis
(15,228 posts)But that's OK.
I misinterpret messages on this board frequently.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)During a hurricane threat everyone is advised to remove or secure loose objects on their property because the wind can turn them into missiles that can cause damage.
Imagine someone saying they're leaving their lawn chairs and garbage cans out because they have the right to do what they want with their own property.
klook
(12,154 posts)Running a stop sign doesn't kill or injure more than a few others trying to go through the same intersection at that same time, even in heavy traffic. But it wouldn't multiply the threat exponentially, spreading to drivers and passengers who were never near the site of the original traffic violation. Flying lawn furniture and garbage cans could injure neighbors, and they could keep flying around for a while and for a long distance -- but they wouldn't spawn more lawn projectiles, spreading the damage far and wide (although that could maybe make a passable cheesy, low-budget midnight horror movie).
Still, such analogies are useful if they get people to think a little bit about how their selfish actions or lazy inaction can cause others' suffering and death -- and how taking very simple, easy actions can save lives. Getting them to care, now, that's a different story.
Trueblue Texan
(2,425 posts)...dictating v-Jay-jay goin's on is okie dokey.
klook
(12,154 posts)efhmc
(14,725 posts)klook
(12,154 posts)Horrifying accident. I can't imagine having to live with myself after something like that. And the poor victim's father! Yow.
Despite the conspiracy theories, the most plausible explanation to me is that she didn't see the stop sign. But who knows?