Seriously we need this country to shut down 97% right now for at least 2 month!

[progressive nobody]

Yes, I know I am like preaching to the choir but it felt good to say!

My hope is that If Joe Biden wins (I am not saying it because I don't want to mind it). I hope he starts working on his plan. Ramp up testing, getting Corp support of at least let them know this is happening. We need WHO's help. I am terrified the death toll is going to be 300,000 and I am terrified my husband or I get this.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. You're probably right, but this is America, where the freedom to be an asshole is more important...

than public health.

[progressive nobody]

4. And the American mentality will get so many killed

[magicarpet]

2. Hunker down, practice anti viral transmission hygiene, and masks up.

[progressive nobody]

6. My husband and I are. We rarely go out either to work or store.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. And goggles or shields

[peacebuzzard]

38. I just ordered prescription safety glasses.

I bought 3 pairs. I Will receive them this week. Foam suction cups, one pair is similar to swimming goggles.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. Wow didn't know they had prescription. Great. Noticed

Hats with detachable shields is a big thing now too.

[peacebuzzard]

59. I ordered online WileyX from sportRX.

They were half the price of ordering through an optician locally.
Unfortunately I have to take a flight to go to a required event and I am going to go all out, safety glasses (with foam insert), gloves and mask.
Will be my first flight since this epidemic starting peaking in my area.
Going from red state to worse red state.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

61. Good luck. Guess no option to drive?

Just went thru grand debate about flying vs driving. And drove 4000 miles rt..

If u can sit in front of plane better. Some guarantee middle seat empty some don't. But guess you already know that.

[peacebuzzard]

62. I have a small econo car, good city car, horrible ride on interstate

I would get there exhausted. I have done that, but it wears me out.
Other option to rent a car, I would be dealing with same scenario. More people, unknown surfaces to touch and then to buy gas with a rental and gas stations to deal with. Public bathrooms ...Not so good with driving through red country.
I might as well do a short flight 30 minute flight and arrive not so stressed and worn out.
I know the airports well.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. I hear ya. It was so exhausting debating it all. I never

went into a single restroom...found trees to pee behind . 30 min flight great!!! We were gonna have to take three flights 4 airports since direct flights from TX to CT were stopped.

[peacebuzzard]

64. It's exhausting to maneuver all the hazards

you really have to prep and think through the scenarios during this terrible time.
I already have my cocktail hour prepped for when I make it back home to the cats.!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. I love planners!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

66. Now I'm confused

30 min flight = 2 hr drive?

[peacebuzzard]

67. 220 miles south to southside Atlanta.

Atlanta traffic is terrifying. roughly 4 hours.
When I had my Saab years ago it was no problem.
But I have a Flintstones car right now. lol

[KS Toronado]

3. All Democrats in office need to turn the pandemic into a public health issue instead

of a political issue where trumpig has taken it. And I have no idea how we could educate the
deplorables since they seem unable or willing to learn.

[progressive nobody]

7. My frustration exactly.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Dr Peter Hotez said that the only way we can save ourselves is to

Somehow take CDC and make it 100% independent from govt/politics and have them lead the country on virus. Dr. Hotez is the director of tropical diseases for Baylor. Mostly on CNN.

[KS Toronado]

56. That's a great idea, I like it.

[Renew Deal]

5. One crazy idea is to go into full lockdown on January 2.

It's after the holidays in the coldest part of winter. The impact wouldn't be as bad as it would be in the next four months. But a lot of people will die between now and then.

It's crazy, but it just might work because it gives people time to prepare.

[progressive nobody]

8. And the people who did in the meantime?

Deeply sorry but you died for a political war? I am sorry but it is insane how many people are literally dying for politics.

[Renew Deal]

10. My idea has nothing to do with politics.

It's about practicality. Labor Day, Halloween, Election Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas/Hanukah, and New Years are in front of us. I don't think people will want to lock down in the next four months. It's about getting people to cooperate as much as possible.

But this bit of practicality means a lot of people die. Realistically, we should lock down tomorrow. I just don't think people will accept that easily.

[Thirties Child]

9. January 2 or January 20?

[Renew Deal]

12. Jan 2.

[progressive nobody]

14. Biden can't do anything until Jan 20th

[Renew Deal]

15. I'm talking about what should happen

Not what can or will happen.

[former9thward]

11. Shut down 97%?

Ok, where are you going to get your food from? Your electricity? Your water? Your Governmental services, police and fire? Your Hospital and medical services? And on and on....

[progressive nobody]

13. Dr Fauci for 1. This is the model, Germany, Norway, New Zealand and others used.

Essential businesses like grocery stores, hospitals and the like would be open. The only state that did it properly was New York and they had this thing in hand.

[Takket]

18. Michigan too

[Indykatie]

21. NJ Did a Good Job on Containment Too By Using Same Approach as NY

[progressive nobody]

22. But the problem was the rest of the states didn't rendering all that work mute. Now that it is open

[marybourg]

40. moot

[obamanut2012]

46. moot

[MichMan]

24. 1/3 of the deaths in the entire country were in NY & NJ

Not sure how people claim that they were the only ones that did things properly

[Bernardo de La Paz]

51. 1) We didn't know much about Covid at then, 2) At end they won't have most death per capita. . . nt

[Polybius]

29. We never went on full lockdown either

Even Cuomo stressed that there was a difference, and we were in a shelter in place.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. CT....was just there...like another world. Everyone including

Businesses comply to a T. No complaints, they just do it and live life a new way. Felt so safe there.

[former9thward]

55. Essential businesses are about 80% of the economy.

Not 3% as you suggest. NY has the highest death toll in the country. In NYC they kept the subways open which spread the disease everywhere. A bad decision. They ordered nursing homes to take Covid patients which spread the disease to everyone else. A terrible decision which even the state admits was a mistake.

[2naSalit]

16. Said it back in June...

This will be with us for years and I expect to still be isolating at home this time next year.

[progressive nobody]

20. I hope not but you may be right.

[Indykatie]

17. Waiting For Biden to Course Correct 6 Months From Can't Be The Solution

The situation will be irreversible at the rate we're going.

[progressive nobody]

19. I know. That is my fear too.

[crickets]

23. +1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Nothing stopping Jim from making a PSA now.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. Jim who? Joe Biden has been making speeches and potent tweets that work as PSAs. . . . nt

[appalachiablue]

37. +1 Carnage continues as long as there's 'more wood (people) to burn'

[JoeOtterbein]

25. Stay with close family only, away from others as much as you can to survive as...

...long as you can.

(w/tears)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. The bad side is that scientists actually have identified a phase

in a virus's life where family and friends flock together in lieu of being around strangers. And cases rise. A family of 5 where people work different jobs or go to school bring back the many each encountered.

Just because you love and care about people does not make them safe.

[BigmanPigman]

39. That is who will be getting nailed first when schools

open prematurely. So glad I live alone, except I miss my baby/dog (she died 2 months ago today).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

54. Oh so sorry BP ! 2020 sucks so bad.

Totally agree about only having to worry about yourself. Can't imagine a big family and having to worry about where everyone went and who they came in contact with. If my son was still little ...no way would I let him go.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Echos of Bill Gates..months ago. 100% shutdown for a month. He must

be totally pissed right now.

[sandensea]

30. The Cassandra of our times

He saw it coming - and when it in fact did, people just started pointing fingers at him (Republicans, anyway).

[FreeState]

41. Don't do this - not good advice

https://www.gaiaherbs.com/blogs/seeds-of-knowledge/the-facts-on-black-elderberry-and-covid-19

Recently, concerns have been raised that Elderberry can potentially stimulate what is commonly called a cytokine storm or cytokine release syndrome (CRS). CRS was considered a major source of fatalities during the SARS epidemic, and some are reporting that we may see similar outcomes with COVID-19.

With so much misinformation out there, it can be challenging to determine what is legitimate information and which sources are reliable. Learn from our Formulation Manager, Susan Hirsch, and Chief Scientist & VP of Scientific Affairs, Dr. Jeremy Stewart, about cytokines and how there is currently no validated correlation between Elderberry and COVID-19.

[Disaffected]

42. Not good advice indeed

Thanks for the good advice. Alternative "medicine" is just as useless (and dangerous) now as it was b/f Covid.

[Raine]

45. I take it when I get a cold, works good for that. 🙂 nt

[obamanut2012]

47. yeah, no

JFC

[IronLionZion]

35. How about a rainbow colored unicorn?

It's a bit late for a national shutdown. Mandatory masks would be more effective at this point.

[obamanut2012]

48. exactly

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. Sadly, it won't happen until next year, and the RWNJ's will still fight it. Nt

[demosincebirth]

43. If so, it would have to be something close to Marshall law.

[krawhitham]

44. That simply can't happen unless the Government sends monthly check to everyone

People have to work to eat

[obamanut2012]

49. Can you please send me your address and banking info?

So you can pay my bills and the bills of everyone else when we don't have jobs anymore. Because that is what would happen. Homeless, jobless, and no insurance or food. Nice.

A 100% mask law with zero loopholes would do the same.

[Amishman]

50. This, the economic damage would be worse than covid

It's going to be bad enough already.

We do not need a massive shutdown.

We need national mask laws and other precautions - with teeth to allow enforcement.

[obamanut2012]

52. Exactly

I wish we COULD 100% close down for 60 days, but we can't. We CAN have a 120-day national mask law with real teeth. That WILL work.

GDP down 32.9% and evictions happening again, and so many folks with no jobs and no jobs to get. The rest of the US cannot also lose jobs, businesses, housing.

[kpete]

57. I am afraid

we cannot wait until January 2021.
I am not sure what will be left....

kp

[Progressive dog]

60. Which 3% would you leave open? nt