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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 11:31 AM Aug 2020

THIS IS NOT ON TEACHERS.

I didn’t want to do this but some of y’all need to hear it.

Stop invalidating teachers feelings about their safety. Stop using child abuse, food insecurity, and mental health to do it. That is some serious misdirection.

I work for the largest district in Iowa. A majority-minority district. I have a degree in social work, a Masters in counseling, and work in an elementary school. Let me tell you about what I do when I’m at work:

I sit and listen to kids tell me about this abuse you’re talking about. Physical abuse. Sexual abuse. Mental abuse. I have heard it all, and way more times than you want to know. Some kids are telling me for the first time. The first time they’ve told anyone. Other times are “Mrs. Hogan it’s happening again.” I make multiple mandatory reports a month to a DHS that is underfunded and whose social workers have overwhelming caseloads. Before we left in March I was doing suicide assessments nearly weekly. I have taken food and clothes from my house to bring it to students. I have to be the one that calls a Mom to tell her that her child has slits all over her wrists.

And I still won’t let you use this as a reason to force teachers and students back when it’s unsafe. THIS IS NOT ON TEACHERS.

The same politicians (hey, Reynolds) that want to hurriedly reopen schools under dangerous conditions are the same ones who always want to cut down and mismanage social services, mental health services, and their funding. They’re the same politicians who have FAILED the kids in my office. Do you want us to be a community school? Cause we are already trying and it sure would be a lot easier if we had the funding to do it.

Where’s all this talk when it’s not a pandemic? You guys know what often happens to these kids and families then? I sit with a mom after school and call every single homeless shelter in the area to find something for her and there is nothing. I listen to a mom cry after the mental health unit tells her there’s no bed for her child in crisis. And when she asks them and me what to do now, there’s no answer for her. Iowa is one of the worst states for mental health services in the country.

Do not come at teachers and schools. Their job is to educate. Mine is to help these kids and families and I’ll do home visits if I can, I will do my best to connect them with the resources they need and I know my colleagues will too.

The real problem is there are not adequate resources, even if we are in school. Not even close. COME AT YOUR GOVERNMENT FOR THAT. And do it when the pandemic is over too.

From: Barbara Hogan
ttps://www.facebook.com/barbara.baudino/posts/10221732561921368

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THIS IS NOT ON TEACHERS. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2020 OP
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2020 #1
THIS! Coventina Aug 2020 #2
theyve been treated with dis for 30 years or more . AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #18
K & R Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #3
K & R. Exactly right! dchill Aug 2020 #4
+1,000,000!!! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #5
K&R! gademocrat7 Aug 2020 #6
They best not come at any teachers! Cracklin Charlie Aug 2020 #7
They already have come at the teachers with this push for school re-opening. nt Hekate Aug 2020 #21
I think I finally figured out why Trump wants school to start so bad. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2020 #30
You have brought up a most excellent point. Scary. niyad Aug 2020 #37
Getting lost in the details. They want teachers back do kids are back in school so 2 income KPN Aug 2020 #45
K & R IllinoisBirdWatcher Aug 2020 #8
Agree! ananda Aug 2020 #9
This! This! This! mcar Aug 2020 #10
I heard a top doc in Chicago today advise all returning teachers wear goggles. Peregrine Took Aug 2020 #11
Biden camp needs to get out front with the goggles information, repugs won't do it. KS Toronado Aug 2020 #13
About time! I've been advocating Goggles for months OhNo-Really Aug 2020 #32
Teachers are like the wall of moms MyMission Aug 2020 #12
There are people at district office levels being forced to go to work in open air offices. onecaliberal Aug 2020 #43
K&R. Totally agree that all of the issues are issues (eg, mental health, abuse), BUT the kids safety iluvtennis Aug 2020 #14
Boom! obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #15
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #16
They've been attacking teachers and education for years and years... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #17
teachers have been treated with dis for 30 years or more . AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #19
Amen! cp Aug 2020 #20
Thanks for bringing that powerful statement here, kpete. Amen Hekate Aug 2020 #22
Very well said. This should be an editorial in every news outlet in IA. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #23
Agreed, but this editorial needs to go out nationwide. It needs to be EVERYWHERE. nt crickets Aug 2020 #25
It would apply everywhere, sadly. Teachers are so under-valued Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #39
Thank you from a SpEd teacher nt evemac Aug 2020 #24
Righteous post. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2020 #26
Great Post ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #27
Yup. I had someone say "Walmart workers are stepping up to the plate... AllyCat Aug 2020 #28
THIS to the BILLIONTH POWER!!! bluestarone Aug 2020 #29
I assume you're with DMPS. SharonClark Aug 2020 #31
Donald's Covid19 Death March - so Jim Jonesy OhNo-Really Aug 2020 #33
The teachers in OK had the same set of complaints about funding etc. w/ the OK republican- SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #34
Amen! Thank you. Music Man Aug 2020 #35
Thank you. lark Aug 2020 #36
KNR + a gazillion niyad Aug 2020 #38
Since most teachers are women they have been BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #41
K & R Chemisse Aug 2020 #42
K&R. Great words! KPN Aug 2020 #44
Great post. LisaM Aug 2020 #46
Glad you Delphinus Aug 2020 #47
K&R! calimary Aug 2020 #48
Truth to Power! Nt Ninga Aug 2020 #49

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. +1,000,000!!!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 11:37 AM
Aug 2020

Absolutely correct!

And I have 10+ yrs professional experience working with kids & families in mental health.

Every single thing you have posted is 100% correct.

Senseless to blame dystunctional families or teachers as reasons to subject everyone to covid!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
7. They best not come at any teachers!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

I’m really upset about their attacking the post office. The. Post. Office!

They come at teachers, there needs to be a wall of moms stretching across this nation!!!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
30. I think I finally figured out why Trump wants school to start so bad.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:01 PM
Aug 2020

It’s not about the teachers, but they will likely be scapegoated somehow, as usual.

It would take some research to really find out.

I was talking to my husband about the push to re-open schools with in-person school. We went on and on for a bit. Finally, I say to hubs “why does he want those kids in buses so bad?”

And then it hit me. School districts don’t manage the school buses anymore. They’re contracted out.

Who owns the school bus logistics businesses? Are they major Trump donors, or something even worse? How much is the school children logistics business worth in this country?

niyad

(113,492 posts)
37. You have brought up a most excellent point. Scary.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:35 PM
Aug 2020

I don't know about all the districts here, but with our largest one, many of the students ride our underfunded and pathetic public transit system.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
45. Getting lost in the details. They want teachers back do kids are back in school so 2 income
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 01:32 AM
Aug 2020

families can go to their 3 jobs, so the economy looks healthy, so he can get elected. He wants to trade lives (the lives of people in families, and people who are friends or relatives of families with kids in school) for a “vibrant” economy. He is fixated on dollars, always has been, and so much — so deeply fixated on money // that he thinks everyone else is as well. Buses are small potatoes. He wants to be king of the world. He’s a bonafide nut job.

Peregrine Took

(7,416 posts)
11. I heard a top doc in Chicago today advise all returning teachers wear goggles.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:34 PM
Aug 2020

Will prevent virus entering through their eyes. I assume a face shield would be good but he recommended the goggles.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
12. Teachers are like the wall of moms
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

But more so because so many have been ordered to the front lines of a pandemic.

They need to stand up, for their lives and the lives of their own families, and the lives of their students, co-workers and their families.

I feel for them. And I think it is on them, although it shouldn't be. They are not in the military, expected to follow orders and directives, putting themselves in danger or harms way. It should not have to be on teachers to safeguard themselves from a pandemic.

It is on them, unfortunately, to stand up and say no, we can't open safely and therefore won't open. I think the teachers union voted to allow teachers to strike.

And of course the lack of leadership in the white house, having made a mess of too much already, has turned the school ground to a battle ground.


iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
14. K&R. Totally agree that all of the issues are issues (eg, mental health, abuse), BUT the kids safety
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:49 PM
Aug 2020

during this pandemic COMES FIRST. All these issues are just a deflection from trump admin for political purposes.

If the authorities want to deal with mental health, abuse, etc during the pandemic, then setup something outside of the schools to handle things.

Just my opinion.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
17. They've been attacking teachers and education for years and years...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020

this is just a culmination of decades, really, of Repubs undermining education in this country, and includes decades of driving a religious agenda into the classrooms.

This is on politicians, and particularly Repub politicians.

ProfessorGAC

(65,112 posts)
27. Great Post
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:46 PM
Aug 2020

Let me amplify her point with a minor personal anecdote.
Many here know I substitute science & math classes since I retired.
Of the 10 districts I'm in, I work the most in a district that, last term, pays $90 a day. Under $13 per hour.
I work in another district that pays the same. There are 800 people in the whole town, & 90% of the houses are 50s & 60s slab ranch homes. Median home value is $140,000.
The first district?
One of the junior highs is 4 blocks west of a development where the median home value is $504,000.
The other building is 3 blocks west of a development where the median is $390,000.
For the whole town, the median is $320,000
The smaller district, I get. The tax base is small.
The bigger one? Town is 13 times bigger with houses 2.2 more valuable.
They can't find the resources to pay more than $12.85 an hour for subs?
No wonder someone like me, who has been doing this for 10 minutes & who isn't doing this for $ gets called nearly every day.
People who need the money are running to districts that pay better. Where the resources are prioritized.

AllyCat

(16,202 posts)
28. Yup. I had someone say "Walmart workers are stepping up to the plate...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:49 PM
Aug 2020

why can’t teachers?”

Gee, I dunno. Because Walmart workers don’t sit in a room with shoppers for 7 hours at a time??

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
31. I assume you're with DMPS.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

Thank you for what you do taking care of the kids in our community. It is a matter of lack of funding of educational, social needs, and mental health that destroy so many communities in this country.

The repug legislators are so concerned with scoring points with rural Iowa, evangelicals, big ag, and city haters, that they lack the foresight and wisdom it takes to make government and society work.

You OP should be published as an editorial but also as a political ad on tv and social media. Please submit it to the DM Register and every member of the Iowa Legislature and Iowa Congressional delegation.

SWBTATTReg

(22,154 posts)
34. The teachers in OK had the same set of complaints about funding etc. w/ the OK republican-
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:18 PM
Aug 2020

controlled legislature, and the teachers got politically involved and changed things. People are getting fed up w/ the constant excuses from republicans, the side stepping of dealing w/ issues as usual, the placing of blame on everyone but republican government.

I think everyone is getting to the point of being sick and tired of 'republican' leadership and the missing adults in the room.

It's time for sanity to be restored everywhere and get things done, instead of the blame game that republicans seem to excel at.

This teacher nailed it and her issues down to a 'T' and gets an A+ in my book.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
35. Amen! Thank you.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:22 PM
Aug 2020

Teacher here too. Our society has thrived on guilt-tripping teachers. "Want your pension funded? If you really loved kids, you wouldn't be thinking about retirement. Want a higher salary? I guess you're just in it for the money."

And we're seeing it with the Covid discussion. "Think a full re-opening is unsafe? I guess you're OK with child abuse."

I think the only thing more than coffee that teachers consume is guilt.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
40. Since most teachers are women they have been
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:50 PM
Aug 2020

underpaid, disrespected and ridiculed for over a hundred years. As women teachers have been used by our culture as well as scrape goated for their "caring nature". The old maids who couldn't get married and were stuck being teachers since they didn't have kids of their own, etc. We have seen and heard the stereotype all our lives. Teachers are often seen as glorified babysitters for many people who just don't want or can't get day care. This is amplified now during the Covid pandemic and returning to school (or not). Are teachers disposable? Our society needs to answer this question once and for all or it will remain the "same old, same old". I speak from experience.

Response to kpete (Original post)

KPN

(15,647 posts)
44. K&R. Great words!
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 01:21 AM
Aug 2020

There’s no triangulating Covid. We either beat it, or it beats far too many of us, those who aren’t in the 1%.

I will be attending my first school board meeting in about 25 years ( when I resigned from the school board after 11 years and my youngest graduated From HS) to make this same argument next week. Thank you for posting this. You’ve made my prep work that much easier.

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