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Jeebo

(2,025 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:57 PM Aug 2020

There is an OBVIOUS dead giveaway of "voter fraud".

It's so obvious that I can't understand why I've never heard anybody point it out.

That orange con man keeps yelling that foreigners or aliens or whoever are going to print boatloads of fake ballots and use them to cast illegal votes by mail. That claim is utterly preposterous, and here's why. Every vote that is counted is marked off when that registered voter casts his/her vote. This happens whether the vote is cast at the polling place or by mail. The poll workers do it right in front of me, at the polling place, when I tell them who I am and show them my ID. I always show them my driver's license, but I don't know if they'll still accept things like a utility bill. But I always have stood there and watched them cross my name off in their register right in front of me. I am voting this year for the first time ever by mail, but I am sure they will do it that way by mail too. That's why I have to fill in my information and signature on the outside of the envelope before I mail it.

So if there is a fraudulent vote cast, it will HAVE to be attached to my name, or to the name of some other legally registered voter, some voter who is in their voter registration records. Those voters will show up at the polls on election day and discover that they have ALREADY voted if the impostor voted before the legal voter did, or if the legal voter shows up first, the impostor will be discovered when s/he tries to vote. Or, the fraud will be discovered after the polls close on election day, which is when I assume they will count the mail ballots and there will be more than one vote cast in those voters' names. The legal vote, and the fraudulent one(s).

So if "voter fraud" occurs on election day, ELECTIONS OFFICIALS WILL KNOW IT IMMEDIATELY.

Has this happened in past elections? Poll workers would know. Assuming 50 percent turnout, about half of the fraudulent voter attempts will be known when a SECOND person shows up at the polling place to cast that person's vote. Poll workers would know immediately whenever this happens.

Has anybody ever questioned poll workers about this? I have a feeling that questioning poll workers would reveal that "voter fraud" is something that ALMOST NEVER happens. Whether by mail or in person.

-- Ron

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There is an OBVIOUS dead giveaway of "voter fraud". (Original Post) Jeebo Aug 2020 OP
Yeah..I do the same thing... stillcool Aug 2020 #1
Talk me down on this one... regnaD kciN Aug 2020 #2
yeah, but election fraud goes up by leaps and bounds rolypolychloe Aug 2020 #3

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
1. Yeah..I do the same thing...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:46 PM
Aug 2020

and I've moved around a bit. They always mark my name before giving me the ballot. I've heard of people like Trump, who aren't sure which state their registered in, and try to vote in the wrong one, but they can't. They can not vote. Or they try to vote in the wrong polling place, and they can't. Even when their polling place was just changed prior to the election.
The real fraud is like what the guy in North Carolina did in several election cycles. He illegally collected, filled out, and signed absentee ballots, but that's just Republican-style-steal-an-election stuff.
https://www.gq.com/story/north-carolina-ninth-district-fraud

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
2. Talk me down on this one...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 07:03 PM
Aug 2020

My moment on this is that the Trump campaign are using misdirection. Last time, they benefited from indirect Russian interference through flooding of social media. Is it possible that Putin's minions have drastically increased their capabilities, so that, this time, they can directly interfere with hacking into the system and changing vote totals? If so, wouldn't it make sense for Trump to be suggesting that mail-order voting is fraudulent, just to get Democrats to defend it? Then, when, against all odds, Trump wins a surprise victory in November, Democrats won't be able to credibly contest the results, since they spend the previous six months defending the legitimacy of the voting process?

rolypolychloe

(56 posts)
3. yeah, but election fraud goes up by leaps and bounds
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 03:36 PM
Aug 2020

If you are in a state like New Jersey, that requires a signature match, If you have a name that doesn't sound like you are a WASP and your in a republican district, the election workers will just indicate the signature doesn't match and reject the ballot. They do the same for in-person voting, but you can show your license or voter id card to prove it's you. So, instead of the favorite Republican tactic of too few voting places with too few working voting machines to suppress voting, they will be rejecting ballots in droves for invalid signatures to compensate.

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