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Uggh... British interview with Mary Trump is enligtening, disturbing, and compelling.... I tried to snip the best parts, but you lose some context by not reading it allMary Trump has a stark warning about the political ambitions of Ivanka and Don Jr and the possibility of a Trump dynasty
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-mary-cousin-ivanka-don-jr-family-dynasty-2020-election-a9653186.html
According to his niece, Mary Trump, the question of her cousins potential dynastic ambitions is a relevant one, albeit one that makes [her] head hurt. --snip--
The fact that the Republican Party is in such a state that either one of these people could be considered is quite astonishing, says Dr Trump, who adds that of her two eldest cousins, it is more likely that Donald Trump Jr who she calls Donny will follow his father into the political arena.
Hes tied into the base in a more fundamental way because hes so abrasive and so vicious from what I can see online, he has no boundaries he wont cross, and theres nothing he wouldnt do to advance Donalds agenda, so I assume the same thing would be true for his own, she explains. But I dont see Ivanka having the same kind of appeal to them [the GOP base] in brute force terms. --snip--
If Joe Biden wins, his margin has to be enormous. It has to be so big that practically nobody other than the 22 per cent to 28 per cent of people who wont question anything Donald does and even somebody like Mitch McConnell isnt going to be able to claim that it wasnt a clean victory, she explains, adding that a huge and crushing loss will cause the president to be so narcissistically injured that hell have to get away from it just to protect himself from acknowledging it. --snip--
When asked if Donald Trump would flee to one of his international properties to avoid prosecution, she says such a possibility would be freaky because her uncle is so provincial.
But on the other hand, he almost never goes outside, so what difference does it make where he lives?
Cirque du So-What
(25,922 posts)By the time those demon spawn make a move o consolidate power, the electorate will be reflexively spitting on the ground upon hearing the trump name.
hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Joe is going to win.
hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)the head a'hole pulled out another stolen election. But, Joe's win has to be overwhelmingly decisive, Mary is quite right on that.
Still, whether superstitious or not, I refuse to use the term "never" in terms of this election.
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)From January, 2018
https://fortune.com/2018/01/04/ivanka-trump-president-wolff/
napi21
(45,806 posts)horsefly. She couldn't even make a decent campaign speech.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Beringia
(4,316 posts)Donny Jr has no backbone, no ambition I don't think. Ivanka is like a stepford wife, and wants to be sort of cool modern, so I don't think she has that kind of ambition either, other than fancy shoes and tweet pics of her in the kitchen with her child .
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)I think she nailed it here:
Hes tied into the base in a more fundamental way because hes so abrasive and so vicious...I dont see Ivanka having the same kind of appeal to them (the GOP base) in brute force terms.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)something terrible happened to Ivanka or Don Jr. It's a good theory and worth thinking about. I think about Trump's father and how he would have reacted if something happened to Donald Trump. I think he would have been devastated, but not like a normal father. Fred would have been devastated because he created Donald Trump in his own image and Donald became an extension of himself and an exteriorization of his idea of his own success. "I taught him how to do this. He is successful because of me."
This is a family where the males don't observe or respect normal boundaries, and where children are possessions not entitled to make their own choices in life.
Trump initially rejected Don Jr. but Don Jr has done everything he can now to earn his father's respect (he'll never has his father's love, because his father is incapable). Depending how you look at it, Don Jr. is trying to create himself in Donald's image, or Donald might well take all the credit for whatever 'success' Don Jr. achieves.
I think the reason Melania keeps Barron as far away from Trump as possible is because she doesn't want Barron to be recreated in his father's image.
But I think we need to humiliate the entire family out of the social realm. They will still be welcome on OANN, but civilized society will reject them.
Kali
(55,007 posts)that is exactly the term. when I see people saying he will run away to Russia, I just have to roll my eyes. the guy is so like his base - if he wasn't "rich" and needed to occasionally go open/promote a trump-branded property he probably wouldn't even have a passport.
the clown eats ketchup on well-done steak for fucks sake!
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)believe he'd be a recluse, like Howard Hughes. (Well, also, he's addicted to the adulation.)
Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)Which to me is precisely why Trump ran for President. His vanity.
I can picture these billionaires with deep pockets deciding to one-up the others by becoming The Most Powerful Man In The World, for all the wrong reasons.
You don't get filthy rich without being a competitive narcissist (unless to the manor born).
I believe Trump's personality syndromes are shared by a lot of the super wealthy.
hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)FDR may not have been perfect (nor, of course, JFK), but both, despite their "privilege" came in to do good for the American people--all the American people--of that I am certain.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Trump name is forever equated with failure and corruption