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Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:47 AM Aug 2020

Days after photos of packed hallways go viral, Paulding high school reports 9 COVID-19 cases

PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. — Just days after a photo of crowded hallways at North Paulding High School went viral, parents were informed Saturday of nine confirmed cases of the coronavirus at the school.

Channel 2 Investigative Reporter Nicole Carr got a copy of the letter. Principal Gabe Carmona wrote that six students and three staff members who were in school last week have since reported positive tests for COVID-19.

The school district has not announced if students who were exposed will have to quarantine and have not given any notice about shutting down classrooms.

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North Paulding got national attention last week after a student took a photo of jam-packed hallways with few students wearing masks. School officials initially suspended the student who took the photo, Hannah Waters, but then lifted the punishment after it sparked outrage.

“Our custodial staff continues to thoroughly clean and disinfect the school building daily, and especially affected areas,” Carmona wrote. “It is my intention to regularly notify the NPHS community of these cases in the interest of transparency and so that we, as a community, can be aware of any trends that arise and respond accordingly.”

Channel 2?s Mike Petchenik learned that according to an open records request verified by Rep. Beth Moore, Paulding County Schools have reported a total of 53 cases of coronavirus within the district since July 1. Twenty-three of those were among students who attend North Paulding High School. Students did not return back to school until Aug. 3.

More: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsbtv.com/news/local/paulding-county/days-after-photos-packed-hallways-go-viral-paulding-school-reports-9-covid-19-cases/X3FEDBYQ3FEA3F3TX5MMQD6E3Y/%3foutputType=amp

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Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
1. Cleaning isn't the main concern!
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:53 AM
Aug 2020

Droplets and aerosols spewing from unmasked mouths, and the lack of social distancing, is a far bigger problem!

Are they months behind reading research, or what?!

“Our custodial staff continues to thoroughly clean and disinfect the school building daily, and especially affected areas,” Carmona wrote. “It is my intention to regularly notify the NPHS community of these cases in the interest of transparency and so that we, as a community, can be aware of any trends that arise and respond accordingly.”

tanyev

(42,515 posts)
17. I know, there was a story on local news about all the measures high school sports teams
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 08:39 AM
Aug 2020

were taking to resume training. Cleaning of the workout rooms and locker rooms was high on the list. I'm thinking, OK, that's great, but how are you stopping them from breathing all over each other?

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
3. So basically, they are planting the seeds to lay blame on the custodians.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:08 AM
Aug 2020

I know from being a school custodian myself that trying to keep sanitization up is just about impossible. Yes, it does help with the typical flu season and keep down the common cold a little but with what they give you to clean with, how much time you are given to clean, and how many custodians there are to do that all. The last time I was working as a custodian they had gone to this natural crap. It only made things look clean and shiny but sanitization was not a factor. Kids started getting sick more than when chemicals were being used. Each custodian has a large area to clean and how much they expect you to do in 8 hours is close to unrealistic. They usually only have one custodian working an area that should be getting done by 2 or at least a four hour custodian to bring up the slack for the 8 hour custodian. Of course with colds, flu, and COVID either wearing a mask or staying home until you are no longer able to infect others is the best way.

captain queeg

(10,085 posts)
5. Georgia's case numbers have been going steadily up
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:40 AM
Aug 2020

Sending kids back to school will no doubt contribute to even further increases. It’s a tough situation. I don’t have any kids in school right now but my son is going back to college next month. Him and a friend just got an apartment lined up. The story they have been getting so far is that the large classes will be online and the smaller classes will be put in groups for alternate days. I feel bad for him with this stuff happening just as he’s starting out. He did 2 quarters last year and got sent home for online classes for spring quarter.

Rhiannon12866

(204,695 posts)
6. It's also crazy to start school right in the middle of summer, especially in the South
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:14 AM
Aug 2020

They obviously could have use more time to plan, the country has changed and everything is different, likely will never be the same. It boggles the mind that the decision makers would put their children in danger like this, let alone everyone who works in the school system. We needed national leadership six months ago to put a plan and safeguards in place as they have in every other country.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
7. I've been surprised by how early some schools reopen...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:26 AM
Aug 2020

... even before this pandemic.

It was always early September (after Labor Day) when I was a kid, and seemed to be the same at every other nearby school district. Then several years ago, it seemed like many schools around here were competing to open earlier and earlier.

It was sometimes freakin' hot and humid in my classes even in September, and I was in Ohio. There was no A/C (which would be wise during a pandemic), but the conditions weren't very conducive to learning. Still remember me and my classmates being wet from perspiration during those days.

Rhiannon12866

(204,695 posts)
8. Same with me, usually the second week of September, and I went to a lot of schools
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:36 AM
Aug 2020

Since we moved a lot for my father's job. Right now it's the middle of the summer - at least here in New York. And I also went to summer camp, campers went there for July or August - or both - since that's the summer. I went to camp in Vermont, but girls came from all over, even a few other countries, though mainly Canada.

And that's what I was thinking, isn't it unbearably hot there? Do all the schools have air conditioning? When I had a summer job, I worked outside at an amusement park. Sometimes it was unbearably hot - but it's much hotter now as we know.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
9. I think everyone's body heat made it worse.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:51 AM
Aug 2020

Like how it can get unbearably hot inside an airplane that's delayed from flying, and there's apparently "regulations" to not open it up beyond some point in the pre-flight procedures.

It seemed like the teachers never wanted to open any windows at my school, and I just accepted it without question back then. Maybe there were concerns about allergies? Bugs?

Everyone seemed so happy to get outside and feel the breeze of the outside air.

Edit:
Oh, and it looks like most schools in the South have A/C.
https://www.the74million.org/article/exclusive-too-hot-to-learn-records-show-nearly-a-dozen-of-the-biggest-school-districts-lack-air-conditioning/

Rhiannon12866

(204,695 posts)
10. Well, that's the thing, it's mandatory that everyone maintains a distance now
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:20 AM
Aug 2020

And, like the OP, I can't see how that can be maintained in schools. And not just 6 feet, I heard recently that 13 feet is safer! And, of course, that's impossible, especially in a classroom, changing classes, eating lunch, everywhere. At the beginning of the summer, I looked online to see how summer camps were handling it - and our "sister" camp which I visited last summer could find no way of safely opening - and most of the activities are outdoors.

And I can remember when it began to get warm in school, we never got out until almost the end of June in the grades. I was trying to remember if the windows really opened, but then I remembered a fire drill in 10th grade when my friend and I jumped out the window rather than go through the maze of hallways, LOL. The teacher was already out of the room and fortunately it was a one-story school.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
14. The whole idea of schools reopening now is crazy.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:52 AM
Aug 2020

It didn't work out very well in Israel even after they had lowered their new infections to near-zero.

Some low-student schools might make it work in some areas? But that school in Georgia looks way too crowded! (I looked it up, and they don't have as many students as mine when I was in high school, but they're close. The crowded hallways between classes brought back memories, though.)

I think my school usually had most of June off. It seemed like we pretty much had a full three-month Summer break each year, with school lasting a little longer if too many days were missed in the Winter due to bad weather (like a blizzard in 1978 around here).

Rhiannon12866

(204,695 posts)
16. That's very true - we have the very real example of Israel, doesn't anyone keep up on the news??
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:30 AM
Aug 2020

We have the examples of both other countries who handled this terribly, but also the soaring death rates in numerous states! As I said, we're in trouble since we've had no national leadership on this devastating pandemic, but it's not like what's happening in other countries and in other states doesn't lead the news every day! How can anyone - especially those charged to make these important decisions - not take into account all the information that's right out there??

And looking at those crowded halls brings back memories for me, too. Not only that, but there's the issue of younger kids. I spent a year in a classroom working with very young disabled kids, ages 2-6, most were 4. And with younger kids, they need help with everything, they're not going to maintain distances, they won't tolerate masks, they need help keeping their shoes on! And when it comes to issues of life and death, we need to think not only of the kids, who sure spread germs, but of all the teachers, aides, drivers, custodians, cafeteria workers, everyone who comes into contact with them.

And I'm in New York so I remember it was the third week in June when we had Regents Week. Those were state standard exams for certain subjects. And of course we also had "snow days," we sure looked forward to them as kids! I went to a private boarding school for my last two years of high school, and we got out the same as college, at the end of May. But the start of the school year was the same, the beginning of September. July and August are summer!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
12. Not much difference in temperature
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:48 AM
Aug 2020

in SW Florida between May and September. I worked as a Special Ed Para in Naples. Actually, even Thanksgiving can still get into 80's. We used to say how did people live here before they invented AC? Yes, all the school buildings had AC, including the Title 1 schools I worked at.

When I worked in NY, outdoor recess was cancelled when there was snow on the ground. In Florida outdoor recess was cancelled when the heat index got over 95 degrees, which it did in May and September. Cannot have the little children running around outside when it is that hot. You cannot imagine what the outdoor basketball court felt like. Wear a MASK then? The kids were at risk of heat stroke without one.

That picture? That is what HS corridors look like every period when 1000+ students change classes every 45 minutes. It is not just Georgia, but large NY HS's looked similar. Ok, they could be wearing masks, but how would they social distance from each other in hallways with 1000 students? Even with a split schedule there will still be hundreds at one time.

My SIL is a NYC HS Teacher. He says online school is not working. The teens are not logging on, not completing assignments, and there as some who do not have computers at all. Not every child lives in some perfect home with Mom and Dad supervising them.

BTW, when husband and I retired we moved back to NY. We couldn't take Florida's HEAT. When we talked to people looking to move to SW Florida, we would tell them don't visit in the Winter months, come here in the Spring and Summer and see it then.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
15. I don't blame you for leaving the heat!
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:58 AM
Aug 2020

There's no way that I could stand it! I also learned a few months ago that the mitochondria I inherited from my mother are "inefficient" heat-producers! (Her distant maternal ancestry probably lived around the arctic for thousands of years where that heat would be helpful.)

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