So, what if he chooses a White woman?

[trof]

Pros?
Cons?
Your thoughts?

[Funtatlaguy]

1. If he does, I hope that POC will accept her and be enthusiastic.

[JI7]

10. How about white people ? POC will support the ticket. It's white people

that people should be worried about even majority of them voted for trump.

[ecstatic]

52. +1000. nt

[Karadeniz]

2. Mistake. Clyburn got him back in business...he owes the AA community. It's only right.

[trof]

4. OK, tell me about that. I missed it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. If not for African Americans he would have lost South Carolina

If not for African Americans he would have lost South Carolina and the coda to his career would have been a humiliating defeat and third unsuccessful presidential campaign.

He owes the Black community everything.

[marybourg]

18. My recollection is that Clyburn said he didn't care

about a Black woman for VP. What he wanted was a Black woman on the Supreme Court!

[empedocles]

27. Sounds like Clyburn

[LisaL]

29. That can be arranged.

[Buckeyeblue]

34. Long overdue. And a sitting SC justice is probably more important than VP

[marybourg]

48. That's what he thought.

[brush]

3. An all-white ticket in the party of diversity in this time of racial reckoning?

And pass up 5 black women when black voters, the party's most loyal and dependable base, got Biden the nomination? That won't be the best decision.

[Hoyt]

8. +1.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Amen

And Susan Rice is a Rhodes Scholar and former National Security Adviser and Kamala Harris was an Attorney General for the largest state in the Union and is a sitting senator.

More.Than. qualified!

[crickets]

44. +2

[JI7]

6. Hopefully White People will vote for that ticket as much as black people will

[LizBeth]

7. I hate pitting women of color and white women against each other in competition.

I have been consistent in saying that it is not a time to tell any group of women it is still not their time, take a seat and not participate. I like all our women. I will be thrilled with all our women. I support Biden regardless of his pick. I do not want it a created battle between groups of women because it is a time for women, the end.

[LisaL]

9. Me too.

He promised to pick a female VP. He didn't promise she was going to be of any specific race. Whoever he picks is fine with me.

[Raine]

15. Totally agree. nt

[Blue_true]

39. I totally share your sentiment. nt

[BluesRunTheGame]

11. Besides choosing someone who's qualified...

...the most important criteria is electability.

If Biden doesn’t run in 2024 and his VP choice decides to run, becomes our nominee, and loses....we’re fucked. We can’t afford to give the White House back to the Republicans in 4 years.

[LizBeth]

13. VP is not indicative of a 2024 run. Doesn't hurt but Sec of State and other position allows someone

the experience to run if they chose. VP picked does not have to be about anointed someone in 2024.

[BluesRunTheGame]

17. They almost always run. They always get the nomination. Then...

...they lose.

Alben Barkley was the last Democratic Vice President that declined to seek the nomination. Vice President Johnson advanced to the presidency upon Kennedy’s death.

The rest of them became our nominee and lost.

Humphrey
Mondale
Gore

Biden has a good chance because Trump really sucks.

[mr_lebowski]

23. Technically I think Biden was the last one ;) nt

[LizBeth]

26. Biden was the last VP and was Sec of State that was our nominee in 2016.

Can be done.

[mr_lebowski]

31. "Alben Barkley was the last Democratic Vice President that declined to seek the nomination"

was in the post I responded to.

I'm saying no it was not.

Biden was the last one.

[LizBeth]

35. Ya... I was taking it further is all.

[BluesRunTheGame]

32. Well yeah. He didn't run in '16.

But here he is today.

[LSparkle]

12. WOC would be a plus

But hopefully all will support Joe’s choice.

IMHO, she should have at least statewide elected experience, though. (And I count Stacey A. as having been robbed of GA governorship so she qualifies in this case.)

[WhiteTara]

14. I'd be disappointed in him.

[tinrobot]

16. I'll still campaign vigorously and vote for him. There is no other choice.

We HAVE to win this time out.

[MrScorpio]

20. Who really cares?

It's not like we WON'T vote for him.

[womanofthehills]

56. Black women care - Joy Reid covers this a lot

It will really inspire the black women voters.

[brooklynite]

21. The pros and cons depend on who the nominee is...

[Buckeye_Democrat]

22. I'd still vote for him even if he chose Joe Lieberman...

... wearing a dress, high heels and lipstick.

[BluesRunTheGame]

25. I'm gonna have nightmares!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

30. Lol! It would cause me to pause while voting.

I'd think, "I guess the world is completely crazy now, but it will still be an improvement."

[Wounded Bear]

24. I'd be disappointed, but I'll still vote for him...

[empedocles]

28. Net positive votes brought to the Dem tickets is a key consideration

[Blue_true]

33. My guess is he doesn't do that. My money is on Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico.

She is the only one in the field of choices that can deliver Texas. And she will greatly help African American and Hispanic down ballot candidates, particularly in Georgia, Florida and Texas.

[womanofthehills]

57. No way - she even said she wasn't interested

[imanamerican63]

36. Who cares?

As long it fits the ticket and what Biden is looking for in a VP. Biden knows that it is impossible to make everyone happy, but remember what the outcome needs to be? Trump defeated and that is all I care about! As I stated yesterday there qualified women who fill the bill and Biden will make the proper choice. I want to Rice or Duckworth, but if it is Harris, Warren or anyone? I will be just as happy and will jump on the Biden & _____ ticket!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

37. This! nt

[Crunchy Frog]

38. The ONLY thing that I care about with the running mate choice,

is how strong of a ticket it is for getting rid of Trump. If we don't win this election, then NOTHING else is going to matter.

I will obviously support the ticket no matter what.

[Laelth]

40. I would prefer for Biden to choose a black or Latinx man.

Given that he is determined to choose a woman, I think that costs us 2-3% points in the general election, right off the bat. In my opinion, Americans are more sexist than they are racist, for better or for worse. If Biden chooses a white woman, I think that will cost us another 1-2% of the national vote, for a total of -3 to -5% of the vote. If Biden chooses a black woman, I think that gains us about 2-3% in the national vote (due to a massive increase in voter enthusiasm), for a total of +/-0%.

Personally, I hope he chooses a black woman, and I hope he chooses Karen Bass.

That said, I think he could choose Betty Boop and still win in November 2020.

-Laelth

[Awsi Dooger]

45. I agree with your themes but the numbers are too high

A vice president is not worth that much.

IMO, it should have been a male. In a pivotal election like this one, preference always destroys turnout. You have a far superior grasp than most of preference as the key variable. Biden caved to conventional wisdom when he insisted he would select a woman.

The Hispanic vote is vital because that block has long history of overboard loyalty to a presidential incumbent. I predicted in 2017 that Trump would have a larger share of the Hispanic vote than made any sense in 2020. If we had a popular Hispanic male without baggage, then that would be the ideal choice for vice president.

[LeftInTX]

54. Julian would have been good, but he messed up in the debates

He really went after Joe, nasty....
It's not Julian's personality either and it reeked of desperation.

[Iggo]

41. Don't care. Not fighing about it. I'm voting for Biden. That's it.

[imanamerican63]

42. Bravo!

My sentiment too!

[DFW]

61. Same here

It‘s not like I would withhold my vote because the ancestors of Biden‘s running mate came from the „wrong“ ethnic background. No such thing to me. I care if she can do a dynamite job and take over on day one if need be, not if her ethnic background is Inuit/Ibo/Basque/Aborigine.

[hurl]

43. My enthusiasm is solely about getting Trump out

I'll vote D all the way up and down the ticket regardless, but this would be a mistake IMO. Hillary's VP choice was a blunder, but I voted for her anyway - will vote D again even if Biden screws up.

I really think we owe it to our base to demonstrate and live diversity.

[Doreen]

46. I know he will make a good choice

but this was not supposed to be about color. This was supposed to be about getting a woman in. Getting a female in. Getting the opposite sex of a man in. That in itself is the main issue.

[Peacetrain]

47. Tammy Duckworth..would be the only one of the 4 running for the Executive Office who served ..

in the military.. I vote Tammy

[totodeinhere]

50. Yes and as a disabled woman Tammy would also fall into a category of people who face

discrimination.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

59. but what does Tammy stand for?

[totodeinhere]

49. I trust Joe to make a great choice and I am not going to dictate to him who I think it should be

or should not be.

[Rice4VP]

51. It depends on whether the voter has been

paying attention or if it’s a low information voter.

High information Black voters might be upset and it could depress turnout. Personally, I would be annoyed if he picked Whitmer over Kamala or Rice. I would be all in if he picked Warren though

[JonLP24]

53. If it is a white woman I prefer Warren

Otherwise I prefer Harris out of the other choices.

[DFW]

55. Don't care

Competence is more important than pigmentation.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

58. he will have kept his promise to pick a woman as his running mate

[smirkymonkey]

60. Bad idea.

Not that a white woman wouldn't be a decent running mate, but after all the hype about choosing a black female candidate and considering how powerful and loyal our female AA base is, I think it would be a huge mistake to not choose a black woman.

Especially in this climate. Especially right now.

[whistler162]

62. Or a mixed race asian woman disabled vet?