Why Biden will choose Susan Rice as VP?

[kentuck]

Because she has experience in the Obama Administration. She was the National Security Adviser and knows foreign policy like the back of her hand. She is not afraid of Putin.

Also, she is a safe pick for the establishment Democrats advising Biden, in case someone has to take over for Biden before his term is complete. That is something they have to consider.

Susan Rice is the logical choice, in my opinion.

However...

However, Kamala Harris is relentless when she goes on the attack. She could take over the Presidency, if required, just as all the other possible nominees. Kamala would be the second choice in my opinion.

[RDANGELO]

1. She is also my top choice, for all of the reasons you stated, and the fact that she is black.

[hlthe2b]

2. While I like Rice, I think Harris is the best one to refocus the media when they start that BS

promoted by RW memes (e.g., Benghazi for starters) and can be the firebrand that we really need. That said, I DO like Rice. Biden needs someone with whom he has a strong comfort level once he's in the WH, but I'm reminded that he MENTORED Harris. Harris, to me, is the one most likely to help get Biden to the WH.

[mzmolly]

17. I hope

so.

[PatSeg]

20. I agree

I also like Rice for all her foreign policy experience, but think Harris would be a better public face for the administration and I can picture her as president one day. Rice is a quieter, more subdued person and though highly competent, she may not have broad appeal with voters. Of course, we know republicans will bring up Benghazi again, although she was at fault for absolutely nothing.

If Biden and Harris can work well together, I think it is a good match. Of course, only Joe knows who is the best fit for him.

[PunkinPi]

38. Rice's qualifications seem better suited for SoS, imo. nt

[NewJeffCT]

41. I like Rice a lot as well

and, I hope she gets Secretary of State if she's not VP. My concern with Rice is that she has zero experience running for elected office.

[Alex4Martinez]

3. Rice is my preference. eom

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Biden doesn't need her for foreign policy creds, he has those himself.

Give her SoS, and VP to Harris, who has political campaign experience.

[mzmolly]

16. Yep.

That's my take.

[Happy Hoosier]

18. I agree

Rice will make a great SoS.

[Music Man]

27. I agree.

Rice is PERFECT for a Secretary of State role.

No one has yet to see Rice in a debate or campaign mode. Big risk to reward ratio.

[kentuck]

33. That is a good point.

Rice would make a great SoS also.

[Autumn]

5. Because she's the best choice. She's intelligent, fearless and perfect to take over for Joe if

he decides to step down.

[Chainfire]

6. Both are suitable

But I would prefer Rice as President, and that should be how the decision is made.

[LovingA2andMI]

7. It will be....

Susan Rice. Gretchen Whitmer will be in the Cabinet allowing for the 1st African-American Governor of Michigan with Garlin Gilchrist.

[Demsrule86]

43. I do not believe Susan Rice will be the pick...clearly the GOP want her and she can be used in

the attacks -oh Biden baseless for sure but...she is not a good choice politically.

[sellitman]

8. I think it will be Rice too.

Harris lost her chance in the debate no matter what anyone says. I felt it then and I feel it now. I'm good with either but Rice is the best candidate.

[LakeArenal]

30. Yes.

[musclecar6]

9. I think

It’s down to either Kamala Harris or Susan Rice, both of which I really like. He can’t go wrong with either one

[gulliver]

10. I think she's the sympatico choice and my favorite.

[Baked Potato]

11. IMO, domestic policy chops is more important this term than foreign policy

So, I don’t think Susan Rice has any special qualifications there. Kamala Harris is more progressive, IMO also, and we need a progressive team to get a full array of voters to the polls. I don’t think Senator Harris is afraid of Putin either. I would prefer Kamala Harris.

[mzmolly]

14. Agree.

[kentuck]

34. If we were looking for "domestic policy chops", then the best choice would be...

....Elizabeth Warren. The Secretary of the Treasury will be a very important position for the next Administration, because the economy will be in terrible shape, would be my guess. I hope I am wrong.

[2naSalit]

12. And she has a

good working relationship with Biden, has for years. Her relationship with Joe is much like the one Joe shares with Pres. Obama and I think that's what he'd be most comfortable with.

Aside from all her professional qualifications, that is important too. It takes a special kind of person, as we saw with Amb. Marie Yovanovitch, to be a top level Ambassador as Susan Rice was as well as NS Advisor.

Her demeanor is calm and professional, well reasoned and reasonable.

I hope he chooses her.

[mzmolly]

13. Team Kamala here.

Kamala is on the Senate Intel Committee which I find impressive.

I also like Harris's experience in law enforcement. She's perfect for the times we're in, when it comes to navigating the difficult path to dealing with police brutality.

Kamala has also run for national office and has proven to be an excellent debater and one who can 'prosecute' Trump and Co. in the public eye.

I think Harris has a warmth that Rice does not. Not that this is necessary but Biden and Obama also have this quality.

Rice is my second choice, however.

Thanks for opening discussion.

[JI7]

22. Everything I have seen points to a Kamala Harris Pick as VP

[mzmolly]

23. I hope so!

[Karadeniz]

15. I think Rice is excellent, but I don't think she has the charisma of Kamala, Warren or Stacey.

[luv2fly]

19. Whoever it is will be the likely 2024 nominee right?

Joe said one term pretty much, so the VP will be the likely candidate going into '24. They have to be thinking about who might be best positioned and qualified for that.

[Music Man]

29. When did Biden say he intends to serve one term?

[LakeArenal]

31. No chance he's a lame duck president.

[luv2fly]

37. Had to check since I was loose with my language

Apparently his campaign aides said this back late last year and though Joe remains non-committal he alluded to the fact that he will be 82 and running again is an unknown. This puts an extra emphasis on his VP choice.

[colsohlibgal]

21. Either One Are Solid Pucks And Capable Of Being President

If it’s Rice be ready for lots of Benghazi nonsense. Harris will draw fire about her prosecutor days.

[JI7]

24. The prosecutor stuff helps against their bs about Democrats and crime

[Mister Ed]

28. pssst. "Picks". Solid "picks". n/t

[dixiechiken1]

25. Rice would be great!

I'd rather see Kamala as AG. We are in serious need of someone who's a pitbull in that position. IMO, she'd be perfect there. I don't really think she brings much to the table for VP.

Bottom line, though, is that I'm voting for Joe. He could pick a rutabaga as a running mate and he'd still have my vote.

[Awsi Dooger]

26. Rice has the winning personality

I've seen it expressed otherwise in this thread but I can't agree. The smart reserved charming types always won over the debate watchers in my living room, while the female pit bull types did not.

I think Biden wants to pick Susan Rice. I think this would be an extremely simple decision for him, minus her appearances on those Sunday talk shows regarding Benghazi. He knows those clips would show up prominently. I think the lengthy delay in making this decision is caused by internal debate, and debate by Biden himself, toward how much weight to give that aspect as opposed to simply picking the best candidate and one you are most comfortable with, in confidence that it will work out.

[LakeArenal]

32. I want Joe to chose the one he clicks with.

Chemistry is important when many choices are good.

[not_the_one]

35. I think I am in agreement with you (if I understand what you are saying)

Biden would get a lot more bang for his buck, with Harris.

But Rice is the old democratic establishment, as is he. Biden can represent returning to normalcy, but his VP pick needs to take the NEW party in a NEW direction. Everything, including and especially the 2018 mid term election, indicates a broad based desire for a NEW direction.

Choosing Rice will NOT indicate the he is ready to move forward, but is, rather, trying to maintain control by the establishment dems. They brought us to where we are at right now, we don't need more of the same. She IS more of the same.

Just because he has worked with her doesn't mean she is the best choice for the party. Sure, she can do the job. But I think that, at best, he sees her as "safe". We don't need "safe", we need aggressive, innovative, creative, a fighter. Someone who can represent a new way, a new direction, a new outlook, a new philosophy. Since this is a time of MAJOR political change, we should make the most of it, both nationally, and globally. Harris is exciting, indicating a bold new direction. Rice doesn't do that.

Rice will help keep the voters of the past, but we already have them. Young people, who we are counting on BIGLY, want the party to actually show it is ready to move forward. Again, Rice doesn't do that.

I will support his choice, but I could get behind Rice as VP more enthusiastically if he appoints Harris AG, with full power to go after the bastards. All of them. Every single one of them. I think she would do so, with gusto.

Hopefully his choice won't make a difference. Hopefully. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.... IF we are allowed to vote, and if ALL the votes are counted, and IF the votes aren't tampered with, and IF........

[ecstatic]

36. That has been my gut feeling as well.

Also, I think that Kamala really broke his heart that night in the debate. Maybe the delay is due to him not wanting to pick KH despite his team urging him to?

[OnDoutside]

39. Stacey Abrams was my choice from over a year ago, but I can see Rice being a compelling case, after

listening to the Pod Save America discussion with Dan and Ben. My concern over what the Republicans would do with the whole Benghazi shit, was my biggest issue, but as they said, her only involvement was to be pushed to go on the Sunday shows to defend the administration's position (when she shouldn't have been). Outside of that, her ability to hit the ground running in trying to resurrect America's reputation amongst US allies, will be vital.

[tavernier]

40. No. Her son has sabotaged her chances.

Shame.

[Demsrule86]

42. Biden has plenty of such experience...we need someone who can help domestically...Susan Rice

also gives the GOP a target and helps with their October surprise. I like her but damn I hope she is not the VP.

[OnDoutside]

44. Susan Rice on Fox's demonisation of her....and Lindsey Graham is a POS