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Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:19 PM Aug 2020

I have to admit that, at times, my heart breaks for Hunter Biden

I have NO doubt that Joe and Jill love him with all of their hearts. Just like I have no doubt Hunter might just suffer from the same emotional ailment that I have - survivor guilt.

Beau was obviously the 'star' of the family, as was my sister. She could do no wrong and fulfilled everyone of my parent's expectations. I run into people who still sing her praises. I took another route in life and never quite met that 'standard'. Hunter hears accolades about Beau on a really constant basis, but he is viewed as the 'other brother' who comes up short in comparison.

From my experience there's always that question - why them instead of me. And he has the added burden of surviving an auto accident that took his sister and mother.

It's an extra grief burden that some people don't realize others carry, and it's really, really heavy.

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I have to admit that, at times, my heart breaks for Hunter Biden (Original Post) Siwsan Aug 2020 OP
Very interesting perspective. Thank you. I am not in the same dynamic as yours, you explain it well. LizBeth Aug 2020 #1
I have also thought this about Hunter. madaboutharry Aug 2020 #2
thank you for adding perspective Skittles Aug 2020 #3
Harris caught herself today Delarage Aug 2020 #4
I noticed that, too, and it's kind of what triggered my post Siwsan Aug 2020 #5
Biden had already been elected but not sworn in when the accident happened. It took convincing.... George II Aug 2020 #11
YES renate Aug 2020 #14
K&R Blue Owl Aug 2020 #6
Dating your brother's widow is tacky as far as I am concerned. LisaL Aug 2020 #7
We all see things via our own perspective Siwsan Aug 2020 #8
Being imperfect myself, I will not cast the first stone towards Hunter. depressed people or Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #23
Thank you for sharing this. colorado_ufo Aug 2020 #9
Compassion - what's been missing from much of our national discourse dlk Aug 2020 #10
I have watched Beavis and Butthead trash him on twitter RainCaster Aug 2020 #12
I really don't know what VP Biden feels hjh3rd Aug 2020 #13
Welcome to DU. Siwsan Aug 2020 #15
I'm the screw up of my family too IronLionZion Aug 2020 #16
Very true Chicagogrl1 Aug 2020 #17
It's funny, I was the favorite son; my wife, the one treated with the least regard by... NNadir Aug 2020 #18
I watched what losing a child did to my mother. Siwsan Aug 2020 #21
Thanks you Siwsan for sharing valuable insight. SaveOurDemocracy Aug 2020 #19
I think he also suffers from depression, and I can tell you as a parent of a child who attempted Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #20
Thank you for an insightful post. My dad had this same problem with his own younger PatrickforO Aug 2020 #22
I feel for Hunter Biden, also cally Aug 2020 #24
Hunter also paid off Beau's student loans way back when they started practicing law. dmr Aug 2020 #26
I feel for Hunter Biden, also cally Aug 2020 #25

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
1. Very interesting perspective. Thank you. I am not in the same dynamic as yours, you explain it well.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:21 PM
Aug 2020

I have seen it with others I care about.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
2. I have also thought this about Hunter.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:30 PM
Aug 2020

Some people have a greater ability to overcome trauma. Hunter has suffered and maybe he has suffered in the shadow of his brother. I am sure his father loves him deeply and would do anything to help make Hunter's life better.

Skittles

(171,717 posts)
3. thank you for adding perspective
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:31 PM
Aug 2020

I do believe most parents LOVE their kids the same, but may LIKE one more than others.

Delarage

(2,597 posts)
4. Harris caught herself today
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:44 PM
Aug 2020

I noticed, when she said something about "...his beloved son Beau" quickly changing it to "...one of his beloved sons, Beau." She didn't want to forget Hunter, either (in plaid jacket as Joe is sworn in to office in their hospital room after the accident).

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Biden had already been elected but not sworn in when the accident happened. It took convincing....
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

...by Mike Mansfield for Biden to even take the oath. He was devastated and didn't want to leave his two sons, so decided not to take the job as Senator.

Mansfield convinced him to do it.

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. YES
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:53 PM
Aug 2020

I've been thinking the same thing about Hunter and Beau for years, and I thought it was INCREDIBLY sensitive of her to change it, on the fly, like that. That impressed me tremendously.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
7. Dating your brother's widow is tacky as far as I am concerned.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:12 PM
Aug 2020

Getting another woman preggo while dating brother's widow is also tacky as far as I am concerned. I think Beau was a star. His brother, not so much.

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
8. We all see things via our own perspective
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:20 PM
Aug 2020

I'm not saying any of that was right, but his most 'out of line' behavior escalated after Beau died. By my experience, that is significant.

I know I've fought off a lot of darkness. I guess unless you've been in such an unenviable position, it's hard to understand but people act out to deal with it in different ways.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
23. Being imperfect myself, I will not cast the first stone towards Hunter. depressed people or
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:56 PM
Aug 2020

those who suffer from mental illness often exhibit self destructive behavior and taking drugs is often a form of self medication.

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
9. Thank you for sharing this.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:22 PM
Aug 2020

I wish I could package peace, wrap it with a giant bow and a kiss, and send it to you.

dlk

(13,248 posts)
10. Compassion - what's been missing from much of our national discourse
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:23 PM
Aug 2020

It’s what sets Democrats apart and it’s what will help heal & rebuild our broken nation.

RainCaster

(13,720 posts)
12. I have watched Beavis and Butthead trash him on twitter
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:34 PM
Aug 2020

I strike back every time. Those bastards have nothing to say about nepotism. Or corruption.

If we all did that, Joe's family would have more time to focus on the important things.

hjh3rd

(28 posts)
13. I really don't know what VP Biden feels
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

about his sons, but I really doubt he he plays favorites among them. My heart broke when Kamala was speaking about Beau and the camera cut over to Biden and it looked like he was about to cry. He was really holding it back, at least in my view. I do think that if she had been talking about the troubles Hunter had been through, he still would have expressed those emotions. One does not go through the losses Biden has and not feel empathy for people. He was not my first choice in the primaries, but he is the right person for the times. Maybe we can’t get MCA, but it might be more important to heal the nation.

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
15. Welcome to DU.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:57 PM
Aug 2020

It's not a question of playing favorites. Some siblings are just more accomplished than others and parents don't always understand the perception of the not so accomplished sibling.

Beau died just after I lost my mom and my sister, and died of the same type of cancer that took my dad. I think that tends to make me over-empathize with Hunter's situation. I can't imagine what it's like to lose a child but I know when my older brother died, at just 25 years old, my mother never really recovered. I do know what it's like to lose siblings.

IronLionZion

(51,271 posts)
16. I'm the screw up of my family too
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:22 PM
Aug 2020

and can relate to how shitty it feels to have everyone in your life desperately want to see you fail. And in my case it was my mother and grandmother who died when I was around Hunter's age.

Chicagogrl1

(645 posts)
17. Very true
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:22 PM
Aug 2020

He probably suffers from c-ptsd. It explains his substance abuse. A shadow cast by a star sibling who is deceased, can cast a very big shadow to try to step out of. Wishing you all best on your path.

NNadir

(38,051 posts)
18. It's funny, I was the favorite son; my wife, the one treated with the least regard by...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:41 PM
Aug 2020

...her parents.

In our marriage, I am no where near as beautiful as she is.

I'm quite sure Joe loves both his sons; but one has died, and that adds a weight.

I do not want to outlive my wife, but I especially couldn't bear to outlive one of my sons, as VP Biden has.

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
21. I watched what losing a child did to my mother.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:53 PM
Aug 2020

Her oldest, my older brother. I have to admit it was a relief that, when my sister died, Mom was at the end stage of Alzheimer's, so she never knew.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,566 posts)
19. Thanks you Siwsan for sharing valuable insight.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:51 PM
Aug 2020

From reading your posts it's evident that you are an intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate human being.

We all have our own paths to travel and what matters most is living our lives with integrity, dignity, and decency. In my opinion, you do very well in those areas.





Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
20. I think he also suffers from depression, and I can tell you as a parent of a child who attempted
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:53 PM
Aug 2020

suicide...it is horrible for the child and the parent.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
22. Thank you for an insightful post. My dad had this same problem with his own younger
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:54 PM
Aug 2020

brother.

These feelings used to be called an 'inferiority complex.' Maybe still are. I don't know. But I do know that my dad suffered mightily from these feelings of not quite measuring up. For sure.

cally

(21,868 posts)
24. I feel for Hunter Biden, also
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:17 PM
Aug 2020

For the same reason. And also that interview he gave awhile back that implied he felt tremendous pressure to make substantial money to support the entire family.

dmr

(28,705 posts)
26. Hunter also paid off Beau's student loans way back when they started practicing law.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

I don't remember the particulars. Beau was not making much money working in the Philadelphia U.S. Attorney's office. Hunter, on the other hand was in private practice making good money.

The brothers were very, very close. Not only did Hunter lose his brother he lost his best friend. His pain must have been incredible, and probably still is.

I marvel at this family. The love they share is genuine and beautiful. Joe and Jill did a wonderful job raising their family, and that begins with the love and respect and humor they share with one another.

I'm so happy they will be our First Family. I can't wait!

cally

(21,868 posts)
25. I feel for Hunter Biden, also
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:17 PM
Aug 2020

For the same reason. And also that interview he gave awhile back that implied he felt tremendous pressure to make substantial money to support the entire family.

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