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***NEW*** Trump said there are too many MINORITIES in the Suburbs. Wants to reduce the numbers (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 OP
Hey tRump or whatever the fuck your name is -- GO FUCK YOURSELF Blue Owl Aug 2020 #1
I think you'll like this.. Cha Aug 2020 #8
I certainly do. But I hope he's heard loud and clear by Hortensis Aug 2020 #93
Thank you! warmfeet Aug 2020 #32
Ditto! Vivienne235729 Aug 2020 #88
Election definitely lost vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #2
It's just astounding MissB Aug 2020 #35
Best HBO series ever vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #46
Sorry, we've lived it in real time. I couldn't bear to see a TV version. Too many LuckyLib Aug 2020 #68
What can you expect from a FUCKING IMBECILE? AZ8theist Aug 2020 #52
A similar joke... tecelote Aug 2020 #99
He never had the AA vote and he knows it. HotTeaBag Aug 2020 #97
Women aren't dumb vercetti2021 Aug 2020 #98
Well, tRUMP supporters have always been the political minority and it sure seems like he's abqtommy Aug 2020 #3
Did he really say that? Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #4
FO to the barking mad Hell monster. Cha Aug 2020 #5
He is openly saying what the Republican Party has had as a goal since Nixon. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #55
Oh my . . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #6
Is this real? OMG Goodheart Aug 2020 #7
Check out this posting on DailyKos.com about Trump's Presser today: Sloumeau Aug 2020 #74
His whole answer was shitty Delarage Aug 2020 #9
Low income people freak him out probably because fierywoman Aug 2020 #25
He should take a tour of Fairfax County, VA. In addition to the hard-working spooky3 Aug 2020 #66
Same in HoCo. nt reACTIONary Aug 2020 #73
How fucking racist can you get? smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #10
Amen, SM! Ohiogal Aug 2020 #40
We should all be afraid of orange-skinned people. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #11
But what about... Squidly Aug 2020 #81
What is wrong with us that this maniac hasn't already been led off in shackles? Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #12
WTF is he talking about?? Initech Aug 2020 #13
Me too! Dem2theMax Aug 2020 #45
Oh & FUCK what you "like".. you like nazis & Dictattors & white Cha Aug 2020 #14
Sounds soooo Hitler-esque. mzmolly Aug 2020 #15
"The least racist person you will ever meet" world wide wally Aug 2020 #41
He said that Biden would build low income housing in the suburbs TexasBushwhacker Aug 2020 #16
and no windows world wide wally Aug 2020 #42
Okay, I've been pretty immune to everything he says because nothing surprises me BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #17
That's not a dog whistle, it's a freight train horn. CanonRay Aug 2020 #18
Roll on when whites are the minority. Doodley Aug 2020 #19
He's looking for attention malaise Aug 2020 #20
"I am the least racist person there is anywhere in the world" dalton99a Aug 2020 #21
That's not a dog whistle, it's a freight train horn. CanonRay Aug 2020 #22
Unreal Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #23
gawd Skittles Aug 2020 #24
This should lead every news cast for the next week! Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #26
He isn't even trying to hide it anymore, is he? LisaL Aug 2020 #27
did he really say that??? I need to hear the audio... that's one step to far, even for him. Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #28
At around 54 minutes: dalton99a Aug 2020 #30
he literally thinks POC equals poverty and crime Skittles Aug 2020 #70
what a racist fuck SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #29
how much more bdamomma Aug 2020 #31
As Church Lady would say, colorado_ufo Aug 2020 #33
the video Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #34
The demographic shifts in suburbia murielm99 Aug 2020 #36
No American dream for you, black people! Don't even think about it! Kahuna Aug 2020 #37
Presidents Olushambles and Kibarkingmad make more sense than Trump. mwooldri Aug 2020 #38
Suburbanites won't like the crash in house prices very much bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #39
Un freaking believable Ohiogal Aug 2020 #43
Lordy he never fails to get worse lettucebe Aug 2020 #44
Somehow I bet Trump still has some red pens in his desk to do redlining with rurallib Aug 2020 #47
Well. I had a hunch that the negative experiences I had in this City was just about getting Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 #48
I told my wife the other night SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #49
Wait until Senator Harris really gets inside his head.... paleotn Aug 2020 #50
Full Blown Segregationist. djacq Aug 2020 #51
Like father like son. nt Codeine Aug 2020 #54
Every republican legislator matt819 Aug 2020 #53
Disgusting comment but the 35-30 is not being portrayed accurately Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #56
They are in total denial. They fudge the census numbers too IronLionZion Aug 2020 #58
is your back sore from carrying that Trump water SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #61
Check my political posts on Reddit or anywhere else Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #67
I understand the point you are making. StevieM Aug 2020 #72
The objectionable segment is later in the video Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #80
He's not carrying Trump water. PTWB Aug 2020 #92
Thanks! I can't stand to listen... reACTIONary Aug 2020 #76
You are absolutely right. Music Man Aug 2020 #95
Shit Donnie, why don't you just come right out and say,... LudwigPastorius Aug 2020 #57
He is such a bastard. (eom) StevieM Aug 2020 #59
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #60
Oh, my. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #62
He assumes all minorities JustAnotherGen Aug 2020 #63
It's what most suburban Republicans think sandensea Aug 2020 #64
People used to be worried about dog whistles, that is a steam whistle. gordianot Aug 2020 #65
i guess his campaign advisors are telling him to drop the pretense and just go full on racist? Takket Aug 2020 #69
No pretenses anymore Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #71
Yep, he is not trying to cover it up anymore. LisaL Aug 2020 #75
MAGA loves the Blacks! Grokenstein Aug 2020 #77
Huh??? He isn't even trying to hide it. AllyCat Aug 2020 #78
What an odd thing to say for... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #79
White Supremacists want to get rid of minorities. We know this. Iggo Aug 2020 #82
You are ALL GETTING IT WRONG!!!!! qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #89
Yes he is that stupid and it doesn't change the racism expressed that much. It not only was inartful uponit7771 Aug 2020 #103
Trump desperately wants this election to be about RACE. writes3000 Aug 2020 #84
Cut it lower?! Fuck him!!! Luciferous Aug 2020 #85
Hitler wanted to "cut" their numbers too and tried very hard... Lock him up. Aug 2020 #86
dog-whistle wrapped in a word salad. radius777 Aug 2020 #87
Well Republicans no longer try to hide it anymore Thrill Aug 2020 #90
Im afraid a good chunk of America is eating this up. Oneironaut Aug 2020 #91
oh noes!! SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #94
Its not more than 5% greater than his base, people might not like the other but a totally crashed .. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #104
I disagree. I think a big portion of the country is racist. Oneironaut Aug 2020 #105
Trump won in swing states with less votes than rMoney HRC votes went to Russian backed 3rd party ... uponit7771 Aug 2020 #106
exactly what he did at his own rental properties in NY Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #96
The curse of the clueless rich twits struggle4progress Aug 2020 #100
Very simple way to handicap this topic Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #101
I bet contemporary suburbanites have other concerns DBoon Aug 2020 #102

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. I certainly do. But I hope he's heard loud and clear by
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:08 AM
Aug 2020

moderate conservatives from coast to coast. He's too disordered to understand the importance of restraint in messaging in order to allow good-hearted cons to remain comfortably as they've always been.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
2. Election definitely lost
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

He always, always finds new ways to lose the election for himself. He just did it for good now. You will never get the AA vote buddy, you just completely ensured it.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
35. It's just astounding
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

I really can’t wait for the stories of this fucked up White House to come out after this needy admin leaves.

They’ll be epic.

LuckyLib

(7,052 posts)
68. Sorry, we've lived it in real time. I couldn't bear to see a TV version. Too many
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:05 PM
Aug 2020

other, more enriching things to see on the tube.

tecelote

(5,156 posts)
99. A similar joke...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:55 PM
Aug 2020

Trump believes he has three kinds of supporters. Those that can count and those that can't.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
97. He never had the AA vote and he knows it.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:34 PM
Aug 2020

This isn't aimed at them, it's aimed at 'Suburban Housewives' as he puts it - trouble is, he's lost them too.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
98. Women aren't dumb
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:36 PM
Aug 2020

Except my cousin. Shes the housewife he is talking about. Shes an old Karen that loves to tell people how to live their lives and yet never worked a day in her life because of her husband's job.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. Well, tRUMP supporters have always been the political minority and it sure seems like he's
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

doing his best to kill them off so I wonder why he mentions it as a problem to him...

Delarage

(2,597 posts)
9. His whole answer was shitty
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:50 PM
Aug 2020

I was listening while I was on the computer, but I'd love for someone to ask him what exactly is wrong with low-income people. Is just the presence of someone who makes less than you really that traumatic? And I'd like to someone to ask him what kinds of places are acceptable for low-income people to live.

fierywoman

(8,595 posts)
25. Low income people freak him out probably because
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:14 PM
Aug 2020

they ALWAYS work way harder than he ever has for a single day of his life -- he knows they're much stronger than he is.

spooky3

(38,633 posts)
66. He should take a tour of Fairfax County, VA. In addition to the hard-working
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:48 PM
Aug 2020

folk you describe, there are people who make TONS of money, such as

--techies of all races and ethnicities
--surgeons of all races and ethnicities
--entrepreneurs of all races and ethnicities
--engineers of all races and ethnicities
--professors of all races and ethnicities

etc., etc., etc.

All of them are better people than is Trump.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. How fucking racist can you get?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:50 PM
Aug 2020

The next time he brags about how much he's done for AA's, I really hope some journalist throws this back in his fat, ugly face.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
12. What is wrong with us that this maniac hasn't already been led off in shackles?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

It's been a veritable four year crime spree tinged with overt and shameless racism. All in plain sight.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
13. WTF is he talking about??
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

I for one would welcome more diversity in my community - there's too many rich, racist conservative white people here, it sucks.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
16. He said that Biden would build low income housing in the suburbs
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:56 PM
Aug 2020

HORRORS! Of course, most low income housing is built in areas that have public transportation. No buses, no low income housing more often than not.

Having lived in older complexes and even a rooming house that had a rainbow of tenants, I know that the "quality" of low income housing is TOTALLY dependent on the management. Places that are managed well are fine. Places that aren't can be pretty bad, regardless of the color of the tenants.

Trump's comment was pretty rich considering the wealth he inherited came from his father being a slumlord.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
17. Okay, I've been pretty immune to everything he says because nothing surprises me
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

My mouth is on the floor with that one.

malaise

(296,105 posts)
20. He's looking for attention
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:59 PM
Aug 2020

The virus has destroyed him as he has destroyed millions - his racism must be condemned across the society. He doesn't give a shit what he destroys as long as he's in charge. What a fucking monster. And now Joe and Kamala have the people's attention.
ByeDon! It's over

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
23. Unreal
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:06 PM
Aug 2020

The follow up should have been, “how do you intend to get minorities out of the suburbs?”

This is sick stuff!

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
26. This should lead every news cast for the next week!
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:14 PM
Aug 2020

The most racist thing a President has said in generations.

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
70. he literally thinks POC equals poverty and crime
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:11 PM
Aug 2020

I live in the burbs around plenty of "minorities" and they're not poor and they're not criminals.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
31. how much more
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:23 PM
Aug 2020

racist can he be??? bastard, he's not too threatened is he???? insecure are we donnie???

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
36. The demographic shifts in suburbia
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

have been good for those communities. I would like to see more of this in my rural area, too.

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
38. Presidents Olushambles and Kibarkingmad make more sense than Trump.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:28 PM
Aug 2020

Olushambles and Kibarkingmad are fictitious presidents of some unnamed African countries - and they're a bit tinpot dictator-ish... They could do a better job than Trump...

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
39. Suburbanites won't like the crash in house prices very much
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:29 PM
Aug 2020

Is the Trumpen S.S. going to invade to protect the suburbs from ... from what? Too many minorities?? Had Trump ever lived in the burbs?

Ohiogal

(40,578 posts)
43. Un freaking believable
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:38 PM
Aug 2020

And not one peep from any Rethug Congress critter or governor

So I guess they’re all in with that.

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
47. Somehow I bet Trump still has some red pens in his desk to do redlining with
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:45 PM
Aug 2020

Bet he still knows how to do it.

I keep wondering how close to simply blurting out racist words he will come in this campaign.

Baitball Blogger

(52,345 posts)
48. Well. I had a hunch that the negative experiences I had in this City was just about getting
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:50 PM
Aug 2020

in the way of mean-spirited people. Now I can see how it was a concerted effort to push me out of this mostly white, suburban community.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
49. I told my wife the other night
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

That I wouldn't be surprised if trump openly uses the N word at some point. This is about as close as you can come without saying it.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
50. Wait until Senator Harris really gets inside his head....
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:06 PM
Aug 2020

with hobnail boots and a chainsaw. This is going to be fun. He's got sooooo many buttons to push!

matt819

(10,749 posts)
53. Every republican legislator
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:17 PM
Aug 2020

Must be asked, in no uncertain terms, whether they agree that there are too many minorities in the suburbs.

And don’t wait for a press conference or some event. Call them up and ask the question. And report the answers every single day.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
56. Disgusting comment but the 35-30 is not being portrayed accurately
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:19 PM
Aug 2020

He's saying the consensus estimate is 35% minorities in the suburbs but he prefers to use 30+% as his estimate.

He's not saying he wants to cut it from 35% now to 30% later. For whatever reason he seems to think he'll "get in trouble" by referencing the 35% official estimate. Maybe his own base doesn't want to believe it is that high.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
58. They are in total denial. They fudge the census numbers too
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:31 PM
Aug 2020

by counting Middle Eastern and North African people as white. And they deliberately undercount Latinos. They want to convince their voters that America is whiter than it is.

They've also completely ignored the effects of gentrification where cities have gotten more expensive and suburbs are simply more affordable for many types of people to live in.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
67. Check my political posts on Reddit or anywhere else
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:58 PM
Aug 2020

Be my guest

This is a blatant misinterpretation of what he said. I don't mind pointing it out. Frankly it is incompetent that it required so deep into the thread. Once I watched the clip I thought it would be corrected within the first 5 to 10 posts.

In my early years here that would have happened

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
72. I understand the point you are making.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:17 PM
Aug 2020

I noticed that too after googling Trump suburbia and watching his comments on a Twitter video.

I put up my post on this thread before I had done that research. Since all I said was "He is such a bastard. (eom)" I see no need to edit my message, since it still hold true, including as it applies to his actually comments on suburbia.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
80. The objectionable segment is later in the video
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:57 PM
Aug 2020

The section where Trump says, "You want something where people can aspire to be there..."

That's where he is obviously implying that it's less desirable to be in suburbia, given such high percentage of minorities. He can pretend he's referring to Biden damaging the suburbs but his base darn sure is focusing on the other aspect, the 30-35% already there.

IMO, that section should have been the focus of the condemnation. The reporter Yamiche Alcindor did a very poor job in the twitter quote because it was posed as a direct quote when it was a slightly altered quote or not full context quote that changed the meaning dramatically. That's what people were reacting to, the words without seeing the video.

As a handicapper I always look for the key variable. In this situation it was simple: The usage of "I" instead of "I'd" in the twitter quote. That immediately jumped out to me as meaning a current estimate and not a future goal. Sure enough, once I looked at the video it was blatant.

There are many twitter replies pointing out the same thing. The strange aspect is why Trump has any reason to believe he is better off using 30+% and not the 35%.

Regardless, I don't mind being challenged on things, particularly interpretive ones. I tend to fare well.

And your "bastard" summary works perfect no matter the day, hour or topic.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
92. He's not carrying Trump water.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:56 AM
Aug 2020

We have a responsibility to truth and accuracy - it is one of the pillars of our party that stand to separate us from Trump and the GOP.

Trump did not say he wanted to reduce the numbers of minorities in the suburbs. He said when he estimates the percentage of minorities he reduces that estimate from 35% to 30% because he doesn’t want to be accused of over representation by the media.

Most of what Trump does and says is easily explained: Trump is an idiot. This instance is no different.

reACTIONary

(7,162 posts)
76. Thanks! I can't stand to listen...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:33 PM
Aug 2020

.. to d.f. 45, so I just take the comments at face value. Wouldn't have known if you didn't point it out.

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
95. You are absolutely right.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

Thank you for saying so. And the fact that the first reply was that you were "carrying Trump's water" is sad. And there are dozens of posts after yours that still incorrectly reference the remark. Don't people read?

Donald Trump does enough to disqualify himself without us taking things out of context, and I applaud people who still care about getting things right. I often see people on DU make points such as yours and get destroyed over it, as if you are defending the guy.

DU can be a wonderful haven for great discussions, and then there are times it's... intellectually dead.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
57. Shit Donnie, why don't you just come right out and say,...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:29 PM
Aug 2020

"They are coming for your white women!"?

...cause that's what your telling your toothless followers, you Klan-happy, Nazi prick.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
62. Oh, my.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:35 PM
Aug 2020

About thirty years ago when we moved to Kansas, we bought a house owned by a Black couple. I assumed that it was a mixed neighborhood. Alas, they were the only Black family around. I still feel guilty that we re-segregated the neighborhood. Fortunately, in the years since, things have improved, meaning Black families have moved in.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
63. He assumes all minorities
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:36 PM
Aug 2020

Are poor and can't afford to live where we do.

I'm going back to my disdain for the Trump Voters who believe this assholes shit.

You don't deserve to live in my house.
You didn't work for it.
You didn't restore it (Historic District Home).
You can't afford my property taxes or mortgage.

Cut it down to 30%? How? By removing me and giving it to you?

I'll burn it down, hop on a plane to Italy . . . And there is not a panel of judges that will send me or my Italian Citizen husband back to face time for burning down our own house.


They - them - the poor white downtrodden Trump voter can stay in their shit hole in Arkansas.

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
64. It's what most suburban Republicans think
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:41 PM
Aug 2020

As anyone who's gown up and/or lived in suburbia for at least a few years knows, they tell each other this all the time.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
69. i guess his campaign advisors are telling him to drop the pretense and just go full on racist?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:09 PM
Aug 2020

because otherwise i can't explain what he's doing.......

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
71. No pretenses anymore
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:13 PM
Aug 2020

Just saying it openly now.

Next step if those sick fascists are left in power: Gas chambers.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
79. What an odd thing to say for...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:51 PM
Aug 2020

...a guy who's done more for African Americans than anyone besides "maybe Lincoln."

qwlauren35

(6,309 posts)
83. You are ALL GETTING IT WRONG!!!!!
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 11:10 PM
Aug 2020

He did not say keep minorities out. He said keep low income housing out.

He said that 30% of suburbia is minorities, as if to say it's not just white people who want to keep low income housing out. He is suggesting that minorities worked hard to achieve the American Dream of living in suburbia and won't want to see it destroyed by the "invasion" of low income housing.

What he said about "keep it lower" is about whether he is misquoting the statistic.

Someone posted the video, and I watched it, because I couldn't believe it.

He's stupid, but he's not that stupid.

Let me rephrase that - this is the man who suggested drinking Clorox. Sometimes he IS that stupid. But people are misinterpreting what he said on this one.

Response to qwlauren35 (Reply #83)

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
103. Yes he is that stupid and it doesn't change the racism expressed that much. It not only was inartful
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:24 PM
Aug 2020

... at best but he's a racist who doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt so of course people will bend towards the worse case with him.

writes3000

(4,824 posts)
84. Trump desperately wants this election to be about RACE.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 11:47 PM
Aug 2020

He’s dying to change the conversation from COVID.

Lock him up.

(9,787 posts)
86. Hitler wanted to "cut" their numbers too and tried very hard...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:44 AM
Aug 2020
RICO THE TRUMP MOB$TER$ AND THEIr GANG$TEr-rEGIME ACCOMPLICE$

radius777

(3,921 posts)
87. dog-whistle wrapped in a word salad.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:41 AM
Aug 2020

nobody would use the phrase 'cut it to 30%' when wondering what number to quote. they would just say 'about 30%' or '30 to 35%'.

imo his answer is deliberately ambiguous to appeal to the soccer moms (see, i'm also protecting minority home owners in the suburbs from the 'invasion') and his deplorables (see, i want to limit/reduce the amount of minorities in suburbs).

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
91. Im afraid a good chunk of America is eating this up.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:45 AM
Aug 2020

This likely plays well to a good chunk of the country who secretly believes that minorities “have their place.” Trump knows it, and he is likely getting a bunch of undecideds with these dog whistles. I expect the dog whistles and divisive posting to intensify as we get closer to Election Day.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
104. Its not more than 5% greater than his base, people might not like the other but a totally crashed ..
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:24 PM
Aug 2020

... economy is worse

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
105. I disagree. I think a big portion of the country is racist.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:57 PM
Aug 2020

They’ll never admit it, but, Trump’s words call to deep seated beliefs that white America has. They understand what he’s talking about even if they know it’s wrong - they don’t want minorities in “their” suburbs, “invading” where they “don’t belong.”

That’s part of the reason the police keep killing black people. White Americans have been subtly indoctrinated their whole life that black people are inferior and dangerous. There is the default American - white men, and the rest who are deviations away from the default. This is the result of institutional and generational racism.

Trump is speaking to this racism, that more minorities in suburbs = a degraded American way of life. He’s subtly creating a forced “war” between white people and minorities, much like the Nazis invented the Jewish problem. He is trying to cross party lines and say to Democratic and undecided voters, “you may not like me, but those undesirable MINORITIES are coming for your neighborhood!”

I wish I could be optimistic, but 2016 shows how irrational voters can be, and how easily they can be swept up by racist and Fascistic rhetoric. I really hope I’m wrong.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
106. Trump won in swing states with less votes than rMoney HRC votes went to Russian backed 3rd party ...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:26 PM
Aug 2020

... candidates that performed 300% past historic norms.

2016 wasn't normal and pols have not answered to how they got the swing states so wrong.

I'm black, I understand the socialized racism in America but seeing my nieces in pictures surrounded by White Shield moms is heartening to think there are not enough ... REALLY ... racist people to make MAGA work.

I could be wrong, I pray I'm not

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
96. exactly what he did at his own rental properties in NY
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:06 PM
Aug 2020

There was always "No Vacancies" for minorities and lower income.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
101. Very simple way to handicap this topic
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:34 PM
Aug 2020

If Trump had actually said it that way, this would have been the lead story on all the political talk shows last night. It would have been mega outrageous even by his standards. The programs would have dumped whatever they had planned, in favor of this.

None of that happened because those producers all recognized this for what it was, his typical divisive nature but not an assertion that he was determined to cut suburbia from 35% minorities to 30%.

This is the type of mistake that is typical from the other side, but in intentional fashion when words are available to twist meaning. Yamiche didn't do it intentionally. It was a sloppy screw up.

DBoon

(24,983 posts)
102. I bet contemporary suburbanites have other concerns
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:57 PM
Aug 2020

Like dying during a deadly pandemic, losing a job, foreclosure...

All of which can be blamed on Trump.

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