Are Senate Democrats using every tool and/or tactic available to force votes on the USPS situation

We will have no legislature until mid-September.

-Laelth

Thanks in anticipation.

Has Trump talked about cutting subsidies to Post Office?
Short of that I don't see how Trump can screw up the P.O. business.

... sorting machines and changing first class mail to bulk

He should be in jail

"President Donald Trump said Thursday that he opposes much-needed funding for the United States Postal Service because he doesn't want to see it used for mail-in voting this November."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/trump-usps-funding-comments-2020-election/index.html

... than our democracy.

Further, I honestly believe DHS should remand him to custody. It is their job to protect us from terrorism.

Just because founders could not foresee traitor in WH & Senate & did not write it down is no excuse, imo. He has broken about every law there is.

Our country is an international laughing stock because we are bound by words written 200 yrs ago.

Coula shoulda woulda won't help if this lunatic nukes something.

You are very eager to throw out the Constitution. As is Trump, may I point out. Why?

Time for intel to think outside the box. Hes nuts & has the football.

Not at all!

I don't want to see that maniac nuke something. He is increasingly desperate and unhinged.

Had the founsers been able to envision a traitor in the WH & a complicit Senate, they may have written a provision.

But because they didn't, should the intel community allow this to continue? I don't think so, prsonally. Not that I get a vote on that. Lol

Just sharing my opinion.

And I'm sure they will do absoluty nothing. Patriarchy is great at being reactionary, rather than proactive.

...still-existing democratic republic, with a Constitution revered the world over. That “200-year old piece of paper” you scorn as toothless has been and remains the template for every other aspiring democracy since our nation was founded.

We are struggling now, and struggling hard. But expecting the DHS to step in, when we can see their fascist methods on display every godsdamned day and night, would put the final nail in the coffin. Who do you think is shooting rubber bullets and throwing tear gas canisters at peaceful protestors? Usually DU posters of your inclination make a plea for a military coup, which would likewise put the final nail in the coffin of our democratic republic.

I always wonder why, in a community that prides itself on an understanding of the US Constitution and civics, there are always a few people who believe the current situation calls for the final dismantling of that Constitution.

And I would greatly appreciate you not infering that I have ill intent. I do not.

I fear for our country and the world.

...would be the end of our democratic republic, and we would assuredly join the roster of failed states that gave up and went for the nearest available strongman to solve their woes.

I will not be responding to you anymore.

...a person who can do over 6,000 posts since March is a very busy person.

But you could have been a bit nicer about it.

Frankly what are we to do when the president is working to destroy democracy? Let it happen for the sake of democracy?

If our vote is under siege what then is the recourse?

...should solve our problem with our POTUS by removing him from the White House. Invariably, there are a number of other posters who agree. This has happened before, specifically during the Bush/Cheney administration. The difference with this poster is their desire to use the Dept of Homeland Security for this purpose — and DHS was tasked overall with battling the Moms of Portland and other peaceful protestors!

Periodically, there are other OPs by other DUers conveying what they think is the brilliant notion of finishing the work of the Civil War by dividing the states into two or more countries. Or dividing California into 3 states in a mistaken belief that we would then have 6 assured Democratic Senators in the US Senate. That, btw, is a fantasy — the California interior tends to be quite conservative, but are outnumbered and hence outvoted by the people on the coast.

I used to give long involved treatises on why this was all a very bad idea. However, the energy that used to propel me in 2002 has been stomped into utter exhaustion by Donald Trump. Therefore I boil it down as I just did: if we experience a military coup, our republic will be at an end. In this, I will not change my mind.

The person I was responding to has carried this thought from one thread to another. I am not, repeat not following them around. However, I will not let this nonsense go unchallenged if I encounter it.

...has a lot of lawyers all over the country looking into voter suppression issues. Biden and the DNC are not asleep at the switch. I think they are strategizing what to do if the mad king declares victory before all the votes are counted. They seem to have learned from 2016 and 2000. I surely do hope so.

If all fails, the republic will have fallen. If so, I have no idea.

Obama was better prepared, I think. But the forces aligned against Hillary were international in scope.

Whoever wants the American Experiment finished and the glassware in the lab smashed has been at this a long time.

As well as Kamala, and my House Rep, Ami Bera.

...and if nothing else, they do keep track of how many constituents are saying what.

There is nothing they can do.

Negativity begets negativity.

Don't tell us what we can't do. Tell us what we CAN DO. And there are many things we can do.

It’s reality.

Learn how the Senate works.

From my understanding, those are ways to get around MM. I scanned the legislation and it does look like MM runs a super tight ship and at first glance, I have not seen any bills that can be commandeered and repurposed, but what about the other option?

What "many things" are you sure they can do but aren't doing?

and constituents! If they aren't up to the job, maybe they should retire!

as long as the Republicans are in charge.

smh

They’ve all gone home. The legislature is not scheduled to return to Washington until mid-September. Right now, they’re not doing anything other than campaigning.

-Laelth

They need to do *something*, we've had enough strongly worded letters.

Some suggestions:

1. Organize walkouts and protests in their home districts (don't leave it to the activists --- get in there and ORGANIZE THEM)
2. Same for DC
3. Shame their repuke colleagues by challenging them to a public debate
4. There are many more possibilities, add 'em if you got 'em

Challenge to a public debate? They've been debating this publicly - every day on the floor. Have you ever watched them?

And if they challenge them to a debate outside of the floor and they say no, then what?

What do you think will be the outcome if they do these things? How will this stop Trump from doing what he's doing to the Postal Service?

We won’t have a legislature until mid-September.

-Laelth

there is nothing that elected can do...but we can call the Senate...GOP types...I have called mine everyday...his office guy and and I are on a first name basis.

for a big surprise. I have no intention of voting by mail... I will early vote if possible or show up on election day with my mask. I have volunteered to man the polls too...yeah life threatening since here in Ohio, you don't need a mask to vote . I will do what it takes to kick that orange bastard out of the White House.

The "they oughta do something" demands are tiresome.

And 9 times out of 10, the complaints about how Democratic Members of Congress and Senators aren't doing enough usually come from people who have no idea what most of these folks are actually doing, don't bother to find out, and just assume that, unless they see it on MSNBC, it's not happening.

when you have Trump and the Senate in GOP hands. Early vote, vote in person, drop your ballot off...Call your elected every damn day. Do what you can.

who knows?

What should they do that they aren't already doing that will actually make a difference?

and shame the GOP every chance they get.

or even do another impeachment. I get that many don't have the appetite for that type of thing right now, but she could do that if she wanted to.

be very foolish when there will be no conviction in the Senate. What you suggest would have no effect.

And what would subpoenas do at this point, even if they were complied with (which they wouldn't be)? Get someone to come in and testify? And then what?

You know what? I think I will. I just need to get someone more articulate than me to join the call.

It may not do any good but I believe if enough folks call, we can beat them.

The solution: vote them out in November. Send $$$$ to their Democratic opponents.

Didn't they write a letter though?

Trump is literally stealing the election in front of our faces, and taunting us.

And are Democratic senators the only peoe capable of raising it?

And then what? What outcome would raising this "Holy Hell" produce?

You seem to be very aware of the problem. Are you raising Holy Hell?