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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsREALLY?!!! Kamala not eligible to run for VP because of her Immigrant parents?
Why the F*CK isn't a reporter standing up and asking Trump how is he eligible to run when his OWN parents immigrated to America? If he is going to stoop to that level than the next press conference everyone report should ask why isn't his Presidency is illegal after all his mother was an immigrant . Did his grandparents enter America Legally?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(131,028 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)imanamerican63
(16,351 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)It isn't worth watching.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Im done watching or paying attention.
TlalocW
(15,675 posts)Not Trump's grandfather has an interesting history of apparently being kicked out of Germany after returning from America which he went to in order to avoid military service. Then opened a brothel.
I know how much of that is true though. But Fred was born in America.
ON EDIT: Oh, yeah... his mom was born in Scotland... Never mind.
TlalocW
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ecstatic
(35,127 posts)The media corrects him and expresses bewilderment each time, but maybe there's a reason why trump continues to project fake birth certificate conspiracies onto others?
In July 2018, the president told Fox Business Networks Maria Bartiromo that both his parents were born in the European Union in an interview about trade with Europe. His mother, Mary Anne Trump, was born in Scotland.
My parents were born in the European Union, he said. I love those countries, Germany and all of the countries, Scotland.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/trump-father-false-germany
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Jennifer Hansler
By Jennifer Hansler, CNN
Updated 2:57 PM ET, Tue November 28, 2017
(CNN)President Donald Trump has come under fire for using the name of a famous Native American as a slur -- at an event honoring Native Americans for their service as code talkers in World War II, no less.
<SNIP>
Fred Trump sought to pass himself off as Swedish amid anti-German sentiment sparked by World War II. According to the biography "The Trumps: Three Generations that Built an Empire" by Gwenda Blair, Fred Trump denied knowing German and did not teach it to his children.
John Walter, a Trump family historian and one of Donald Trump's cousins, said this was an effort to not offend his Jewish customers.
"He said, 'You don't sell apartments after the war if you're German,' " Walter said in the Boston Globe article. "So he's Swedish, no problem."
Even after World War II, Fred Trump continued to claim he was Swedish, according to Walter.
More: https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/trump-family-heritage/index.html
zipplewrath
(16,698 posts)We went through all of this idiocy with the original birthers.
You can read the whole constitution, you'll see nothing in there about "anchor babies".
Blue Owl
(59,460 posts)n/t
cornball 24
(1,583 posts)Kamalian? If they told shitbag that Kamala was a Kamalian, he is so F'ing stupid he would believe it!!
progressive nobody
(816 posts)ornotna
(11,535 posts)And Fred tRump was born in The Bronx.
progressive nobody
(816 posts)military service?
IggleDuer
(980 posts)Since the Trump fathers are known to be absentee fathers (think Stormy Daniels). She may have fled to get support from he family.
nsd
(2,486 posts)He left Germany to avoid military service.
progressive nobody
(816 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)in such a way that makes him look like even more of an idiot, how it would go over. Something along the lines of "you losers tried this bullshit with Obama... give it up already" but with much more finesse.
Fat Nixon's father was born in the Bronx and his mother in Scotland, so I guess using his "logic" he's half-eligible to be Prez.
SheltieLover
(81,438 posts)I'm sure she knew full well the ridiculous nonsense that would be coming her way. Somehow, I think it strengthens her resolve. 👍
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I think laughing at them for their sheer stupidity might be a better strategy than getting indignant.
SheltieLover
(81,438 posts)They are beyond ridiculous! And, as they have no plans to improve or fix anything, all they can do is attempt to throw stuf at the wall.
Mr. "Law & order" can't very well attack her for being a tough prosecutor, for example.
I guess it's better to laugh at them and not be distracted while we are busy winning in Nov!
Initech
(109,049 posts)progressive nobody
(816 posts)fire with fire....
IggleDuer
(980 posts)... like when Obama was born in Hawaii, they said it wasnt a state. It was!
The Repubs will grasp at anything!
Ilsa
(64,495 posts)about whether her immigrant parents still held allegiance to foreign governments when she was born.
A very slippery standard, IMO.
ornotna
(11,535 posts)Sure sounds like their allegiance was to the good old USA.
unblock
(56,239 posts)Of course, if that what was intended, they would have drafted the 14th amendment that way. They didn't. They said "... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...".
It's ridiculous to claim that immigrants aren't subject to the laws of the United States, even if they're not citizens.
It's meant to exclude invading armies and diplomats.
struggle4progress
(126,549 posts)to the jurisdiction of the United States
unblock
(56,239 posts)Us v. Wong kim ark in 1898 held that you're a citizen if you're born here, unless
1) your parents are foreign diplomats, I.e., subject to the laws of that other nation; or
2) you were born in a part of the United States under the control an invading army, I.e., subject to the law of that other nation; or
3) you were born to parents subject to the laws of an untaxed Indian tribe (a concept that afaik doesn't exist any more, I think they're all taxed now).
None of this applies to Kamala, so she's obviously a citizen from birth, a natural-born citizen, and eligible for vp/president.
But she's black, so birthers gotta find a way to call her illegitimate.....
nsd
(2,486 posts)atreides1
(16,799 posts)Trump's father was born in the US, his mother immigrated from Scotland using chain migration!
His paternal grandfather was born in Germany and immigrated to the US using chain migration...after he made his fortune, he returned to Germany to get married, and intended to remain in Germany.
But, it seems that grandpa was a draft dodger, so he was deported back to the US, with his new bride!
By the way, Melania's parents immigrated to the US using chain migration, what makes this interesting is that Trump has spoken out against the use of chain migration...with some exceptions, it seems!!!
Princess Turandot
(4,926 posts)Kamala Harris is eligible to serve as US president, fact-checkers confirm.
Multiple fact-checkers, including AP, PolitiFact and Snopes, confirmed that Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, California, therefore making her a natural-born citizen of the United States and eligible to serve as both vice president and president.
(Among others):
"She was born on Oct. 20, 1964, in Oakland, California, making her a natural-born U.S. citizen. Her father, an economist from Jamaica, and her mother, a cancer researcher from India, met at the University of California, Berkeley as graduate students.
Since she was born in the U.S., she is regarded a natural born citizen under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution."
The 14th Amendment of the Constitution states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
Link to tweet