Trump and Biden are now tied with white voters at 48%

[Cattledog]

Trump and Biden are now tied with whites at 48%. Trump had a 6-point advantage with the group at the end of June.

To underscore the significance of this, Trump won white voters by 20 points in 2016, and no Democrat has gotten more than 44% of the white vote (incumbent President Bill Clinton in 1996) in a presidential election since 1976.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/14/902265017/poll-biden-expands-lead-a-third-of-country-says-it-wont-get-vaccinated?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR0inYxmHmMkvQNA5fMxFaF8A5HyX0Elq_SL6TsABcPNrnuI0-MUruXsJbc&fbclid=IwAR2CdyZM-pRgqEXmuuWR9LCXeOXYbX72ZMaG_UKa0y0nxvVirCqt9s9M0XI&fbclid=IwAR1OjOUBuAmgoi1l3-u4ur9nlO0GSGfnlwnbcZ0_DZhiZHdKNwlLjwoNi2c

[SiliconValley_Dem]

1. that is a great thing to see--but it needs to go even more toward Biden

it is crazy there are 50% of white voters still down with the garbage Trump is pulling

[MyOwnPeace]

3. I'm disgusted that even 1%

would still support BunkerBoy!

[tman]

2. If he keeps it close, trump is done.

[ecstatic]

4. That's huge! I think we only need 40 to 43 %

An extra 8 point cushion would really help considering all the election tampering we're witnessing.

[Awsi Dooger]

18. Anything above 43% would be amazing

Hillary got 37%. Obama had 43% in 2008 then 39% in 2012

[Towlie]

5. News of how a fair and corruption-free election would hypothetically turn out is worthless to us.

We need to stop the naive and unrealistic assumptions and concentrate on how the upcoming election is likely to turn out.

[lagomorph777]

8. Yes, we should be completely depressed, dispirited, and discouraged.

Motivation and hope are terrible things.




Your concern is noted.

[Towlie]

12. Exactly! Yes, we should be completely depressed, dispirited, and motivated to take action!

... or perhaps you think believing is enough to make it so, like in Peter Pan.

Saying "everything is fine and the election is in the bag" does nothing to make things turn out the way we want, it only makes us feel good and want to sit back and relax, while Trump keeps up his dirty tricks and wins a place with the world's other dictators.

[lagomorph777]

13. Maybe defeatism motivates you, but I have to fight off suicide every day.

Quit telling me to go ahead and do it. I have to survive until November 3rd.

[stopdiggin]

9. Actually. It is naive and unrealistic

to assume that this type of polling, and reporting, is "worthless" to us. Public perception and momentum are hugely influential and significant -- in this and any other political contest. And these factors almost certainly will have great bearing on how the election "is likely to turn out." With respect -- claiming that these things are not helping -- is just not correct.

[Towlie]

15. Public perception and momentum are irrelevant here on DU. We're all aware of the need to beat Trump.

Here on DU the more important need is to increase our efforts rather than falsely believe that we've already won.

Like Swan says in The Warriors, "When we get there, that's when we made it."

[stopdiggin]

16. the polling and the news helps the cause

both on DU and in the larger sphere. I think it is unwise to be critical of helpful things.
(and please point out where anyone is saying we have already won?)
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[Buckeye_Democrat]

6. Clinton also won the white vote EXCEPT...

... among the white "born again" Christians.

That's what basic algebra showed from the 2016 CNN exit polls.

And those nuts are still dedicated to Trump, at least according to polls that I saw a few weeks ago.

Religion / science is the biggest division among white voters imo.

[lagomorph777]

7. So...white supremacist crap doesn't actually attract white people?

It certainly repels this white person.

[Farmgirl1961]

10. How ashamed I am to be white

How can 48% of the white population be for tRUMP??? WTH?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. As a white guy, I refuse to "identify" with them.

That doesn't stop me from recognizing patterns among different groups, of course.

I'd mostly like to know why white evangelical Christians are fooled by people like Trump, but non-white evangelical Christians are not. (Not to the same extent, anyway. There's still some people like Ben Carson out there.)

I suspect it's mostly because the non-white religious folks have a LOT more to worry about than just abortion or homosexuality.

[Buckeyeblue]

11. If this is true we could be looking at a big win.

Let's see if Moscow Mitch is getting the same numbers. If he is, I bet we will see him calling the Senate back to D.C.

[Kamala4TheWin]

17. If Biden gets to 50% with these folks it's over for

It’s over for that racist Dotard