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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate him.
I'm just bursting with hatred for this man. It's overwhelming, it's pushing me over the edge. I am losing my work focus.
My boss doesn't like how I throw around the word "hate". So, I will try a few synonyms to make it clear. I despise the president. I detest him. I loathe him with every cell of my being. Every day, I hope I'll wake up to the news that he's dead.
An extremely poor response to COVID-19, causing the loss of my cousin.
Having the military gas protesters so he could get a photo op in front of a church that he's never attended, where the pastor doesn't even like him.
And now, sabotaging the post office in an attempt to tilt the election, slowing the mail, slowing bills, slowing medicine.
Hate, loathe, despise, detest.
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I figured out how to express what I am feeling. A phrase I can't remember ever using before.
This situation with the mail is fucking with my mind.
The lies, the corruption, the racism, the reversal of ALL of Obama's best policies, the efforts to destroy Obamacare, the placement of conservative judges all over the place... and then in 2020 alone, the mistreatment of the pandemic, the attacks on protesters, and now the mail.
It is fucking with my mind.
To all of you who have offered ideas on how to handle this spiritually, I thank you. I am trying ALL OF IT.
North Shore Chicago
(4,243 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)Walleye
(44,804 posts)But I dont think the word has been invented that really describes the way I feel about this piece of shit. Im so sorry about your cousin.
dchill
(42,660 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)cayugafalls
(5,960 posts)Just kidding, I agree, but I was taught that the word hate is a bad word, worse even than cuss words. Part of my hippy youth. Loathe, despise, detest are all great descriptors.
He is an malignancy on this nation.
madaboutharry
(42,033 posts)(Of course on Zoom these days.) The purpose of the discussion was to reconcile Trump hate with Buddhist life and come to the understanding that although Trump is a vile person, being angry and hating him takes away from your own peacefulness. Being angry and hateful is bad for you. So try not to be so angry! Some people thought that was a big ask!
So very sorry for your loss of your cousin. Hugs.
qwlauren35
(6,309 posts)In Nichiren Buddhism, we are taught to chant for the happiness of people who are harming us.
I have tried it with other people. It is very, very hard.
But you are right. This is disrupting my inner harmony.
I will rethink this.
Somehow the very thought of trying to offer up a prayer for this man makes me sick to my stomach.
Yes, this is disrupting my life.
The situation with the post office has just put me over the top. The idea that somehow, he would cheat so completely that he would win the November election, it's making me ill.
Not enough people are doing something about it. Not enough people are fighting it. Not enough Republicans are fighting it. I know this is hurting Republicans as well as Democrats.
I think part of what I'm dealing with is an extreme sense of helplessness.
marlakay
(13,282 posts)On your enemies or people you have hate or dislike for to get rid of bitterness inside you because it poisons us not him when we hate him.
In the past I have used that to overcome extreme feelings for hubby's ex wife, people who were mean to me, etc. But every time I try with Trump I just can't get myself to wish him blessings. I pray (and I am not religious) that his eyes open to the truth.
Mitch McConnell and a few others come close to how I feel about Trump.
I find myself wishing painful things upon them and I am a peaceful person.
lilymidnite
(358 posts)Struggling mightily with this, too.
At this point, I'm just accepting it as I might a broken bone or car crash. It involves a lot of suffering.
Someone, better than I, can do the 'may he be happy' thing. I can't. It makes me physically ill.
maxsolomon
(38,718 posts)in my Vipassana intro course. the teacher said try not to start with people you hate.
Sage advice!
Ponietz
(4,330 posts)They are archetypes. We are only human when we embody them.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)and the feelings have definitely taken a toll on my health and stress levels. But what can be done about it? He's everywhere. Inescapable. And now Mitch and others have joined the list as well.
Totally Tunsie
(11,852 posts)I've been trying to recall if anyone else in my lifetime has ever been so universally despised as this clown, and can't think of one. There's no "halfway" - if you don't support him, you detest him to his core. He has absolutely zero redeeming qualities.
pnwest
(3,466 posts)Im with you, I hate him from every cell in my body, with every iota of passionate emotion I can muster, I hate that man. Hate his name. Hate his progeny.
And Mitch McConnell too. Absolute grinding hatred.
Dave in VA
(2,285 posts)but spit works too!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)likes THAT! So, spit will do for now.
Dave in VA
(2,285 posts)stillcool
(34,407 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,603 posts)With the fury of the heat of a million suns, and dont even get me started on Moscow Mitch and Should be removed from the Barr.
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)I can only imagine how I'll feel about the next Republican president. Hopefully, I'll never experience it again, or, at the very least, that it's a long time from now. They get worse with every one.
And to think most of us believed none could ever be worse than W. Boy, were we wrong!!
ShazzieB
(22,586 posts)I really thought I hated W, but I didn't know what hate was until Trump. I was taught that it was wrong to hate anyone, but I just can't help it with him. I don't necesarily wish for horrible things to happen to him, but I don't blame anyone who does. I mainly just want him GONE from the White House and from our government. I want his damned foot off of all our necks.
This thing with the USPS is driving me nuts. He and this DeJoy creep (his name should be NoJoy) are the scum of the earth. Right now I feel like I did the night of the 2016 election, like up is down, down is up, and nothing makes any damned sense. I refuse to give up hope, but it's really, really hard.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)Me too.
Ohiogal
(40,575 posts)Mr. O has to tell me to calm down or give it a rest.
I hate that vile, loathsome, disgusting, and cruel waste of human protoplasm with the heat of 1000 suns. He is ugly inside and out. Just hearing his whiny voice makes my blood pressure go up 50 points. I pray for the day we dont have to see his bloated orange image ever again or hear about his latest attempts to destroy America. May he rot in prison or hell, whichever comes first!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)behind bars, after he loses all the money he has grifted as president. Repulsive, deplorable SLUG that he is. His "kids" are cast in his image, too. I hope they lose everything and have to find out what it means to WORK for a living.
orwell
(8,003 posts)...who never met a person she didn't like, who is universally lauded for her kindness, who never speaks a bad word about anyone - even those who have wronged her...
...openly says she wants someone to, in her words, "take him out..."
She is almost 92 years young...
To anyone that knows her, that is an inconceivable admission.
That is how detestable Don the Con is...
mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I like the way she thinks!
NRaleighLiberal
(61,857 posts)liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)He's a rot. I hope he pays for all the suffering and death he's brought upon the planet. May his removal from power be swift and spectacular and may he drag the entire GOP down to hell with him.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)When he is out of office, prosecution convictions MUST void any post office benefits. No retirement, no health care, no federal protection, not another cent of tax payer money for him. And especially for his hired whore, depart here greedy ass. Take Baron with her. Ban all Trumps for life from this country. Send em home to mother Russia. Cleanse the country of trump stench. Marry is welcome, put her face on Rushmore. He never paid taxes, so fuck giving him another dime of ours.
ECL213
(445 posts)My first thought was "Kill DT"
mtngirl47
(1,243 posts)Every day he does something to make me hate him more.
Some days I can't call my conservative parents in case I start screaming at them for inflicting this scourge on our nation and the world.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)dlk
(13,247 posts)There isnt a word vile enough. A new one needs to be coined.
denem
(11,045 posts)Shitler. I don't use it, out of respect for world jewry, but it fits.
catbyte
(39,152 posts)I've had to go on blood pressure meds and I know it's mainly because of that thing currently infesting the White House. I'm hoping I will have to take less after January 20, 2021. I have a really bad feeling about what's going to happen between November 4 & January 20. I hope I'm wrong.
But I hate that worthless POS too.
Beacool
(30,518 posts)I'll never forgive the morons who voted for the POS, and those who didn't like Hillary so they preferred to stay home or voted for Jill Stein. May they and Trump rot in HELL!!!
Larissa
(793 posts)I know it's hard because he's everywhere. He's hard to escape when you just want to give your psyche a break now and then. In the countdown to the election, as things become more intense, I have been limiting my exposure to political discussions on the regular news/talk channels. I get the NY Times delivered, but now -- at the most -- I just skim through the articles focused on his latest effery. The ongoing news articles about Trump's continuing campaign to ruin the environment were triggers for me. As of late, his efforts to throw a monkey-wrench into the running of the U.S. Postal Service was another. And, of course, the continuing stress of living through a pandemic that is raging out of control in this country. Covid-19 is wretched: there are folks who have lost loved ones; once infected some patients never fully recover -- this beast can gum up your internal organs and make breathing a challenge even after you've been "cured." To top it all off is the fact that Trump has done absolutely nothing to reduce the mortality rate in this country. He is criminally negligent. Every time he stands up in front of the cameras and lies about how great America is doing compared to other countries - - -
But here's the thing. It is possible to emotionally detach from something that is very stressful, but it takes practice. Regular practice. I went through an unbearable, life-threatening situation in my life that I believe I only survived because of the tool of detachment. In this case it was presented to me by the Al-Anon program. To this day I believe that it saved my sanity and my life. In the case of Trump, it can do the same as it can relieve the stress on your health. And right now we really need to be working on reinforcing our immune system and that means working on the stress that undermines it. Also, I cannot say enough about the practice of meditation. Your brain and mind have been running on all cylinders for nearly four years. It needs some down time. Do it.
Here is one of my favorite Trump detachment stories. Many folks may not have the resources to go this extreme, but you get the idea. Detachment can do it for you:
NYTimes.com: The Man Who Knew Too Little
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/style/the-man-who-knew-too-little.html
llmart
(17,617 posts)I read the link at the bottom also. Very interesting experiment.
Thanks for posting this.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)to occupy my life and energy in such a way to take my peace from me.
I've not become totally successful in that endeavor.
But, frankly, my family and those that I love and care for, as well as the rest of my life concerns and interests are more important.
Life is too short to let others take control of your feelings.
I'm way up in years, could just sleep away at any time.
He's not worth it.
I'd rather live my life without the misery of such a person in my thoughts.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But, frankly, work is NO place to be stating that you hate him. If it was me in your situation, I would stop talking and do everything that I can do behind the scenes to defeat him.
qwlauren35
(6,309 posts)I do not discuss my raging hatred for Trump at work.
I was using hate to describe how I feel about a co-worker. Whom I do loathe and despise. However, Trump has her beat by 10 million times, so saying I hate her is probably inappropriate so as to reserve the word for those who truly deserve it.
I can't stand her. My boss knows this and has to run interference when we clash, which is almost weekly.
I loathe Trump.
rhiannon55
(2,786 posts)I actually know someone who worked for him for 10 years in the 1980s and 90s who was so traumatized by the experience that he developed PTSD and is still working through it in therapy all these years later.
Trump is a horrible person who destroys everything and everyone he touches.
WHY is he getting away with all the bullshit he's doing? I don't get it.
mudstump
(353 posts)I was worrying for the country. I think this anger is way underestimated by the media. If this man steals this election I worry for a violent revolution.
qwlauren35
(6,309 posts)it takes a lot to make me protest. I think protesting is useless. Aimless.
But I think I could take a baseball bat to the windows of anyone with a Trump sign on their lawn if he got re-elected. That's how deep my fury would go.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)There is no word in the English language that adequately describes how I feel about Donald. J. Trump.
Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)And I'd put McConnell, Barr and a few others in there for good measure.
And to think I thought Dick Cheney was the worst person on the planet.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Others I intensely dislike and despise. But my emotion of hatred is reserved for these two. I wouldn't piss on either one if they were on fire (although one of them might enjoy it).
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)He is definitely loatheworthy.
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Just kidding.
I do, too.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)...by wishing this monster dead. No more chastisements now.
Glorfindel
(10,175 posts)that someone once hated.
Dried Apple Pies
by Anonymous
I loathe, abhor, detest, despise,
Abominate dried-apple pies.
I like good bread, I like good meat,
Or anything that's fit to eat;
But of all poor grub beneath the skies,
The poorest is dried apple pies.
Give me the toothache, or sore eyes,
But don't give me dried apple pies.
The farmer takes his gnarliest fruit,
'Tis wormy, bitter, and hard, to boot;
He leaves the hulls to make us cough,
And don't take half the peeling off.
Then on a dirty cord 'tis strung
And in a garret window hung,
And there it serves as roost for flies,
Until it's made up into pies.
Tread on my corns, or tell me lies,
But don't pass me dried-apple pies.
(A little humor never hurts!)
Warpy
(114,615 posts)That's what keeps me from hating him, knowing how horrible it would be to go through life that ignorant, that arrogant, that limited, and that paranoid that other people had spotted it.
I just want him gone. I don't care how any more, he's just got to go.
I want his enablers and associated mobsters in prison where they can't hurt anybody any more.
I want his rotten party to have a real reckoning with the fact that they've devolved into a mob dedicated to the destruction of this country and everybody who lives here.
But him? Once he's gone, I won't care. He can retire to his mink and gilt horror show of a "residence," wherever it might be. I can't think of a worse fate than having to be him and have everything he touches die. I want Putin to refuse his calls. I want him out of the public eye and too radioactive for even tabloid stories since his picture would destroy sales.
Oh, he won't be forgotten, he'll be studied for as long as other tyrants have been studied. We can't forget. We want to avoid the next one.
gordianot
(15,772 posts)Some of his voters may wake up someday but I consider that denial.
Texin
(2,851 posts)The Wizard
(13,735 posts)be creative on social media. Always make it a question. "Does Donald Trump have a future in prison porn?"
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Cantaloupe Caligula
Tangerine Tojo
Traitor Tot (my personal favorite)
McDonald
Cheeto Benito
Shitler (which I use often)
Hair Furher
Mango Mussolini
Dolt 45
Genghis Can't
King Leer
IQ45
Agolf Twitler
Agent Orange
Twitler
Prima Donald
The Lyin' King
Cadet Fake Bone Spurs
Comrade Combover
Donnie Dinky Digits
Needy Amin
Commander Clorox
Red Don
Old Yeller
Donnie Two Scoops
qwlauren35
(6,309 posts)So many good ones.
japple
(10,459 posts)to take my meds and to realize that he is not in control of himself. I read Mary Trump's book about him and actually came to feel rather sorry him, for the way he was treated during his formative years. I can pity the child, but I also know that many people, born into a world of terror, war, deprivation and worse, rose to great heights and overcame their upbringing. tRUMP never overcame those infant longings which is why he has to punish everyone for not giving him what he needs. There will never, ever be enough. He is an empty, bottomless black hole.
Having a regular happy hour (or two) every day also helps a lot. Staying away from mainstream media and watching old music videos, cooking, canning tomatoes, making pickles, and working in cat rescue also help.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)In fact, I don't think there is a word in the English language that quite describes the extent of my loathing for the man. The day he dies will be one of the happiest days of my life.
raccoon
(32,390 posts)In Congress.
seta1950
(968 posts)I have never hated anyone the way I hate him and his ilk😤
Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)The only problem is that the word "hate" doesn't adequately describe how I feel. Hate is too tepid a word for me.
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)alittlelark
(19,139 posts)I KNOW he is a direly damaged human being. I think of him in the same way I do pedophiles.
They were deeply damaged - through no fault of their own - in childhood. Their damage is not repairable. It takes a village to raise a child, but the village failed cuz there was money/ belief to support it.
GB had Australia. They had a place to toss these societal pariahs. that was 300 years ago.
Here in the US we give them reality shows and the oval office.
zentrum
(9,870 posts)soldierant
(9,354 posts)It also has a meaning which is related to action and choices
To hate someone in this sense is to be opposed to all that they stand for.
To work to thwart what they are trying to achieve, or to undo their achievements.
To choose the opposite of what they choose.
To work for the opposite of what they work for.
In that meaning, I certainly hate Trump and have no regret or guilt.
I think we can all hate him that way.
Swede
(39,492 posts)transitive verb. : to regard with extreme repugnance : to feel hatred or loathing for : loathe
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I hate bigotry, suffering, torture, misery, starvation, and murder.
I hate various members of the Trump administration, including Donald Trump, Donald Jr, and Eric. I hate Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Kayleigh the ninny, Kushner, Ivanka, Miller, Kelly Anne, Bannon, and Pence.
I hate them because of all of the evil that they do, and I don't think hating evil is wrong.
Let them all burn in hell.
BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)It is all about Pussy-Grabber. I hate him SO fucking MUCH. I am appalled and am so fearful that he will steal this election.
Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)Mickju
(1,823 posts)He deserves to be hated.
BlueMTexpat
(15,690 posts)you say about the Criminally Deranged Thug, Conman and Cowardly Bunker Bully Brat!
I did not realize - and am thankful never to have realized before - that I was even capable of the level of hatred and loathing that I have for the most despicable, abhorrent and toxic POS of my conscious lifetime.
The only way that I have been able to function at all since Nov 2016 is to avoid like the plague any televised event where he is speaking or only to watch it with the sound muted, to avoid Fox News completely, and only to read about the havoc he causes at a time of my choosing - which keeps the absolute fury at a somewhat lower level.
Of course, DU, good wine, a lovely family, good friends, good books, Netflix and the fact that I am an expat who lives in a beautiful place that isn't bombarded 24/7 with stories about him also help!
Sometimes one literally has to tune out for one's health.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)It is one of the hardest things I have had to work on.
I would rather spend all day with my father who abused me than spend half an hour with trump.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)far away from me.
Swap your hatred, which can harm you, for the knowledge that he is a man who is incapable of happiness.
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,369 posts)I do a ritual.
I will carefully word a sigil,build an effigy. Than
I get my stuff together for ritual Open ritual space ,call corners and various gods to witness my rage and let my hatred out on an object,pour all the hate I have as that time into it.
Out loud I say what I feel and let the negative be negative. And as negative as it needs to be.
Do it for 20 minutes more or less.
Then I burn the effigy or paper .
Declare it done.
Close the ritual.
Than forget about it and relax /distract.
The hate loses its power in my mind since it was fully expressed.It's carthartic.
Then after a few minutes the hate is gone and I feel better. Also since it's deliberate ritual magick maybe the spell will work on some level.
It contains and separates the hate from everyday life.
Lock him up.
(9,787 posts)... it's normal to "detest" him. Loathe every sycophant enableR$ (Cohen first) too.
RICO THE TRUMP MOB$TEr$, THEIr mob bo$$ AND THEIr ACCOMPLICE$
CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)For forty years the republican party has courted the zealots and loons. When Trump's gone, we still have them to deal with. How do we come together when the two sides have such different world views? When I was a kid, politics was something you could disagree on, because both sides still fundamentally agreed with the democratic process. Now one side has thrown the rule book in the trash, & half our fellow citizens don't care as long as their side is the one with a boot on our neck. I can't even talk to right wingers. There is zero common ground anymore. I'm polite to them when I have to interact with them, but I avoid them when at all possible.
mzmolly
(52,793 posts)Add me to the group of 'haters.'
llashram
(6,269 posts)I abhor his being
Neema
(1,181 posts)In other words, I agree.
OverBurn
(1,292 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)I dont hate...Im not sure I can.
Ive examined how I feel, and thats it. There is, in him, and his family something antithetical to the experience of being human. All of our history, our joys, our hates, our disasters and our accomplishments. Our qualities good and bad, seem to be missing in him.
He is John Steinbecks human monster, the Cathy of our generation. While he attracts some, he also repulses so many more. It can start with hate, because that repulsion is hard to identify in oneself, but its like seeing a crowd of people watching an big event slowly unfold, more and more eyes turn toward the event, at first confusion, then awareness then attention.
I dont listen to his voice, I pay attention to the results of his actions
This the quote from East of Eden
I believe there are monsters born in the world to human parents. Some you can see, misshapen and horrible, with huge heads or tiny bodies. . . . And just as there are physical monsters, can there not be mental or psychic monsters born? The face and body may be perfect, but if a twisted gene or a malformed egg can produce physical monsters, may not the same process produce a malformed soul?