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Nevilledog

(51,196 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 12:52 PM Aug 2020

Trump officials could face criminal charges for USPS sabotage -- and the president may not...

Trump officials could face criminal charges for USPS sabotage — and the president may not be able to pardon them

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/trump-officials-could-face-criminal-charges-for-usps-sabotage-and-the-president-may-not-be-able-to-pardon-them/


Members of the Trump administration could face legal jeopardy over efforts to sabotage U.S. Postal Service operations to interfere with the 2020 presidential elections.

“Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ) made a criminal referral to the New Jersey Attorney General on Friday night, asking him to impanel a grand jury to look at possible breach of state election laws by President Trump, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and others for ‘their accelerating arson of the post office,’ he said. Alarming headlines have emerged in recent days as many states prepare to facilitate widespread mail balloting due to the coronavirus pandemic. President Trump openly admitted he was withholding federal aid from the postal service to prevent mail-in voting, and USPS has notified 46 states and D.C. that it will struggle to deliver some mail ballots on time,” The Daily Beast reported Friday.

If DeJoy or others were charged in New Jersey for state crimes, Trump could not pardon them as his power only applies to federal crimes.

New Jersey isn’t the only state investigating the possible violations of the law.

In Arizona, Secretary of State Katie Hobbs on Friday wrote a letter to state Attorney General Mark Brnovich, asking him to investigate whether crimes have been committed.

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Trump officials could face criminal charges for USPS sabotage -- and the president may not... (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
YESSSSS!!!!!!! empedocles Aug 2020 #1
"Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ) made a criminal referral to the New Jersey Attorney General on ... Botany Aug 2020 #2
Who are the people picking up .... 634-5789 Aug 2020 #12
Pascrell is MY representative. no_hypocrisy Aug 2020 #3
Good for you! True Blue American Aug 2020 #6
He filed against Trump, too! True Blue American Aug 2020 #4
Put it to these amateurish criminals and teach them and their kind oasis Aug 2020 #5
New Jersey is staring the process Gothmog Aug 2020 #7
Excellent. Do it. dalton99a Aug 2020 #8
Need more Grand Juries with state charges, and more state charges KS Toronado Aug 2020 #9
+1000 Cryptoad Aug 2020 #10
KNR niyad Aug 2020 #11
I know he has the power to pardon people for Federal crimes, patphil Aug 2020 #13
He knows damn well what he is doing vapor2 Aug 2020 #15
ACCORDING TO THIS: DEJOY AND TRUMP vapor2 Aug 2020 #14
The USPS news just keeps getting better & better about possible criminal charges Illumination Aug 2020 #16
KICK! Cha Aug 2020 #17
I wanna see heads rolling Blue Owl Aug 2020 #18

Botany

(70,578 posts)
2. "Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ) made a criminal referral to the New Jersey Attorney General on ...
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 12:55 PM
Aug 2020

... on Friday night, asking him to impanel a grand jury to look at possible breach of state election laws by President Trump, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and others for ‘their accelerating arson of the post office,’ he said.


*****Good keep it in state court away from Bill Barr.

BTW Who are the people picking up the post office drop boxes and removing the letter sorters?

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
12. Who are the people picking up ....
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 02:42 PM
Aug 2020

They're USPS employees being forced to remove the mailboxes. This shit has to stop NOW.

patphil

(6,206 posts)
13. I know he has the power to pardon people for Federal crimes,
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 02:59 PM
Aug 2020

but it would seem to me that if a President appoints a person to an administration position with the understanding that the person would commit crimes at the direction of the President, then the President should not be able to pardon that person.

This is something the Supreme Court should be called upon to make a judgement on, if the situation arises with DeJoy.
It would be obstruction of Justice for the President to block prosecution in this instance, since he would be protecting himself from prosecution for his part in the conspiracy to sabotage the USPS and defraud the 2020 election.

Of course, state laws could be applied to go after DeJoy, and then Trump, after he is no longer President in January.

In any event, I don't think Trump realizes the damage all this is doing to his desired economic recovery.
This could be the single most important issue on election day...a gigantic boat anchor around the neck of his re-election chances...and the chances of Congressional Republicans.

Another self-inflicted wound by a demented, egomaniacal, sociopathic narcissist.

vapor2

(1,249 posts)
14. ACCORDING TO THIS: DEJOY AND TRUMP
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 03:37 PM
Aug 2020

18 U.S. Code § 1701.Obstruction of mails generally
U.S. Code

Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
16. The USPS news just keeps getting better & better about possible criminal charges
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 03:50 PM
Aug 2020

as the day goes along...

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