Do you know of *anyone* who plans to vote for Trump that *didn't* vote for him in 2016?

[intrepidity]

Meaning, the max, the absolute MAX number of votes he can get, is less than he got in 2016.

How many Trump '16 voters have since passed on?

How many Trump '16 voters have decided not to vote this year?

How many Trump '16 voters have voiced their plan to vote Biden?

It gives me hope when I think about it in these stark terms.

[Demsrule86]

1. Trump is losing in every state he needs right now.Trump barely won...Stein voters ...

it is not happening this time.

[Walleye]

2. Yes, that's the hope I'm hanging onto

[Tucker08087]

3. No.

I think those “walk away” people were all frauds. Who would walk away from the Democratic Party for TRUMP? Nobody.

[aeromanKC]

4. Seriously, who voted for Hillary in 2016 and now will vote for Trump in 2020!!??

That has got to be the smallest tiniest micro Trump's hand size voting block ever!!!

[JI7]

5. There are probably a few like those too young to vote for him

or those who didn't vote thinking it wouldn't make a difference. But this would be very small in number and he most likely lost way more votes than he would get with that.

But a large majority of those in these groups are still voting democratic.

[Karadeniz]

6. In my poor, rural Texas county of about 3,000, the democrats are about 200. Lot's of older

People, sizable nonvoting immigrants, so....1000-1500 Trumpers, maybe.

[enough]

7. There could be people who didn't vote at all in 3016 who have joined the cult since then.

Not too many I suppose.

[hurple]

8. I know several ..

My mom. My dad. My brother. Most if my cousins. Most of the guys I still know from college. About half the people I work with.

Do NOT think there is no chance he can win. He can.

GOTV!

[gratuitous]

10. None of those people voted for Trump in 2016, but are going to vote for him in 2020?

Is there something they have in common that caused them all to reject Trump in 2016 but now they're voting for him in 2020? I'm thinking a diet rich in lead paint chips figures in there somewhere.

[intrepidity]

11. Yeah, right? nt

[beachbumbob]

9. No new trump suppprters been made since 2016 but all sorts of new

Democratic voters have. Don't be fooled by the nonsense this will be a close election. The shear panic caused trump/GOP to damage the USPS. We can overcome that in COVID era.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

34. I don't *think* it will be close like 2016

I do worry though about voter turnout at polls due to COVID-19 and Trump/GOP's attempts to thwart more mail-in/absentee voting (and garden variety GOP voter suppression). But if everybody GOTV we will win IMHO

[Ms. Toad]

12. Yes. A former student of mine voted for Clinton

Supported Gabbard in the primaries this time, and recently announced her support fo Trump.

[mvd]

13. Oh my - went from Clinton to then Gabbard and TRUMP?

What could be fueling her insanity?

[Ms. Toad]

15. She was always a little . . . erratic.

Turned up on a beach somewhere the day of the bar exam, instead of the bar exam, without any warning.

[mvd]

16. Yes, it figures

Gabbard was about my last choice in the primary, but she’s still no Trump.

[intrepidity]

24. That is truly frightening

But, I believe this is a case of the exception proving the rule.

[Ms. Toad]

29. I have other friends still talking about voting for a third party candidate

Fortunately, others who were feeling that way right after Sanders dropped out are now hammering the third party friends everytime they post another "they are both the same" post.

I truly don't understand that mentality. I know it has to do with age/maturity . . . but I was never that stupid.

[phylny]

14. No, but I know plenty of people who won't vote for him

this year.

[BannonsLiver]

17. A defeatist in another thread was making the case this is real based on anecdotal experience

But I think it’s generally accepted by most who analyze polling and politics professionally (Charlie Cook, Larry Sabato, Harry Enten etc.) that trump has in fact not grown his base since 2016. I also think that is correct.

[intrepidity]

25. Making the case what is real? nt

[BannonsLiver]

31. Trump growing his base since 2016

[Proud Liberal Dem]

35. He is trying to eke out a close EC win like in 2016

I have my doubts as to the likelihood of that being successful. 2016 IMHO was likely only possible due to a perfect storm of events unlikely to repeat itself

[budkin]

18. No

[VarryOn]

19. People seem less willing to discuss who they're voting for...

And based on the people I'm around most of the time, I hope it reflects they don't plan to vote.

[LAS14]

20. There is a group of voters called, I think, contrarians, who always switch..

... parties from election year to election year. But I don't think there are that many. And, presumably, there as many switching the other way in their contrarian way.

[intrepidity]

28. Yeah, they cancel each other out

But interesting to know

[doc03]

21. Yes I have a couple. What has turned them, the demonstrations. Race that's it. nt

[intrepidity]

26. Interesting to know

Thanks for weighing in.

[doc03]

30. The BLM demonstrations may fire up blacks to vote but it seems to also

do the same for whites. At best maybe they will at least cancel each other out. This is a rural area that has very strong
Trump support. So living among these idiots it is hard to judge what it is like outside this area. I get a feeling of dread when I drive around and see a Trump flag on numerous houses and have only seen one sign saying"Anyone But Trump". I am getting a couple Biden stickers for my cars but am reluctant to display them for fear of getting my car keyed. Today I went to Rural King and there were
three young assholes one with a Trump mask walking around the store chanting Go Trump. This place is incredibly racist. I hope the
rest of the country isn't this bad. I was at Rural King and another store that sells guns they are completely sold out of handgun ammo at both. Its like they are preparing for war.

[MFM008]

22. My sister

The dummy of the 6 of us....

[Amishman]

23. Yes, two distant cousins on my wife's side

First election they can vote. Gun loving, church going, farm family. The youngest two can't vote yet but will certainly also vote Republican when they do.

[intrepidity]

27. Hmmmmmmm since they didn't vote in 2016

They aren't quite whom I'm talking about...

[Proud Liberal Dem]

33. I don't know *anybody* planning to vote FOR Trump

Period. I do, unfortunately, know more than a few people on the left whom hate Biden as much as Trump and will be voting 3rd Party or not at all. But most of my friends are still sucking it up to vote for Biden bc they know what's at stake even if they don't particularly like Biden.