It's worth the risk to vote in person to oust Trump.

[Yavin4]

No, it's not worth the risk for the economy, but for the election, it is worth the risk to oust Trump. We have no chance whatsoever to suppress the virus and get the economy back on track if Trump is president. The current situation will go from bad to catastrophically worse.

We cannot let this man continue as president. We have seen that there are no checks on his power. We have seen the entire system of checks and balances crumble while his corruption grows ever more bolder. We cannot rely upon the Republican party to stand up to him in any way shape or form. Impeachment and removal won't happen if he's given another 4 years. In fact, we may never get our democracy back as the Republican party has fully embraced Fascism as its model for governing the country.

This is our WWII moment. It's either vote Trump out or join an underground guerrilla resistance movement. If you want to see what that looks like, look at Hong Kong.

[empedocles]

1. Hoping some governors will develop further safeguards to max the vote

[Squinch]

2. I agree. I would say, too, that if you have a co-morbidity, go now and find an N95 mask

and a face shield. (You can even make a face shield out of a clear folder.) If you get these in hand now, you will have them when voting comes around.

With proper precautions, you can vote in-person, and do it safely. And nothing is more important than having ALL our votes counted.

[BlueSky3]

58. and wash your clothes afterwards

My doctor advised me to do all these things, including the mask and the face shield, but also to wash all my clothes as soon as I return home. I guess if you don't have immediate access to a machine you could bag them up until you can wash them. I've read others mention leaving your shoes outside, too.

[BlueSky3]

60. and wash your clothes afterwards

My doctor advised me to do all these things, including the mask and the face shield, but also to wash all my clothes as soon as I return home. I guess if you don't have immediate access to a machine you could bag them up until you can wash them. I've read others mention leaving your shoes outside, too.

[BlueSky3]

61. Sorry for the double post

I'm not sure why this happened --

[calimary]

66. Nope, not a problem. Your original message beats repeating.

Any sensible and reasonable precaution bears repeating.

[LiberalArkie]

69. I have a fine mist sprayer filled with 91% rubbing alcohol. I just spray my mask and myself with it

after I get back from somewhere crowded. I asked a virologist at the hospital when I had to go and he liked the idea and said he was going to do the same.

[LAS14]

4. Get a KN95 on line. Keep the distance required in the line. Clean your hands...

.... with sanitizer immediately after voting. Know the ballot so you don't linger in the booth. You'll be fine. I just hope all the poll workers have N95 or KN95 masks.

[still_one]

12. I would also add wear gloves to your suggestions

[LisaL]

16. Gloves, goggles (or face shield) and face mask.

The full gear. I already asked for absentee ballot but if it doesn't show up I can vote provisional on election day.

[CaptYossarian]

39. For those of us who use paper ballots, bring your own pen.

And...this is actually a Nathan Hale moment. (Those teabilly so-called "patriots" will have to Google who Hale is.)

[Kamala4TheWin]

52. I tried to use my own pen on Super Tuesday

And was told that it has to be the right kind of pen or else the machine might not read the ballot.

So, gloves might be the better option

[CaptYossarian]

89. Thanks. I started using my own pen in public a month ago and thought it would work.

[bamagal62]

25. But, where can you get an N95 mask

Online?

[mucifer]

28. KN95 can be purchased 10 for $50 here:

https://thecleanphone.com/products/kn95-respirator-masks-fda-authorized-npptl-tested-anti-fraud-technology?variant=35360510640295

I don't think you can find N95 . But, KN95 should be better than procedure disposable masks or homemade masks.

[LisaL]

31. You can buy valved N95s on

menards.com right now. 2 masks per pack for ~$8.0. They are valved, so put your cloth mask or surgical mask on top of your valved N95 and you should be good to go.

[LisaL]

32. menards.com sells actual 3M N95s with valves for a good price right now.

Since they are valved, when wearing, put N95 on first, then put your cloth mask or surgical mask on top. You are well protected and those around you are as protected as if you were wearing your cloth mask.

[moonscape]

88. Thanks. Just ordered some. n/t

[cayugafalls]

38. I bought them here. They are only 20$ for 10

50 for 30$

They work fine and appear to be the real mask. You can test one to make sure. Just google test KN95 for the specifics.

https://wyze.com/face-masks.html

[bamagal62]

46. Thanks.

[DinahMoeHum]

5. Folks, if your state allows for early voting. . .

. . .take advantage of it and avoid the crowds on November 3.

Kinda like "flattening the curve"

[LisaL]

10. Early voting doesn't mean no crowds.

I am also sure Trump has all kinds of surprises for election day.

[fescuerescue]

18. Where I'm at, early voting *IS* the most crowded and most risky

That's wake county NC.

They have early voting in one central place and the line is usually an hour or so.

However "day of" voting i can walk in without a line.

That's because day of voting has voting locations in every neighborhood, vs early voting where it is one large location for the entire county.

[LisaL]

22. Yep, same here in OH.

OH only allows one early voting location per county, regardless of the size of the county. So in a small county, early voting might be quick and painless, while in a large county, it's crowded including long lines. So it's not going to be an option for me during a pandemic.

[bamagal62]

26. Yep. It depends. We had the same thing happen this last election.

Went to early vote at the library for the primary. The
Line went around the block. Waited until Election Day and no one was there. Basically empty.

[LisaL]

30. In normal times, my actual voting place is not crowded.

I wouldn't expect lines on election day. But who knows what is going to happen this time? Especially if infection rates go up.

[oldsoftie]

62. EXACTLY!! I've seen the same here ever since they started it.

Going ON voting day is always less crowded around here. More places open.

[snowybirdie]

6. Early voting

is important too. Let's make sure people are aware of it. Little or no lines, quick in and out and relative certainty your vote will be counted.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

63. Considering who's manipulating the postal system, I think it's probably safer

To vote early, in person.

I mean, if theY can dump sorting machines and postal boxes, then how much trouble would it be to dump cartons full of mail in votes?

[Cirque du So-What]

7. Even if voting carried risks equivalent to storming the beaches of Normandy

it would still be worth it this time around.

[abakan]

56. I agree

nothing short of death will keep me from voting. I will crawl on my hands and feet if needs be.

[FM123]

8. When I googled tips for standing in long lines all day to vote

I found this helpful article, believe it or not, in TeenVogue - good on them for spreading the news to their young readers.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/college-voter-survival-guide-long-lines-campus-polling-places

[Arkansas Granny]

9. I have requested an absentee ballot. I have the option of returning my ballot to

the County Clerk's office by hand. In light of the recent changes at the post office, I will not be mailing my ballot.

[LisaL]

14. That's a good idea.

At least you won't have to worry whether it was delivered or not.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

65. Do that. I wouldn't put anything of value or importance in a mailbox right now.

[still_one]

11. People voting by mail must vote early, and confirm at least a week before November that their

ballot has been received

If one cannot do that, then voting in person is the only alternative, and voting early if allowed in their state

No one should wait until the last minute to vote

[not_the_one]

55. I would imagine part of their plan is to delay mail voting,

so that when you mail in your ballot, and then can't verify your vote was received, you go vote in person. MIRACULOUSLY your mail-in vote will then show up.

THEN the can invalidate BOTH and scream SEE!!!, DEMOCRAT (sic) VOTER FRAUD.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

73. Remember when the Trump administration and Kris Kobach wa trying to force the states to turn over

Any information the had on their voters? I’m sure they wanted to know who voted in which parties primary.

Well, it looks like they got most of what the wanted according to Wikipedia:

On January 3, 2018, the commission was disbanded by Trump, with a statement from the White House blaming many states' refusal to turn over information as well as legal disputes.[13][14] At that time Trump asked that the investigation be transferred to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which already holds much of the requested state voter data and oversees immigration records.[15] The acting DHS press secretary said that Kobach would not be advising or working with DHS, and the White House said it would destroy all the state voter data collected by the Commission.

[beachbumbob]

13. issue will be having enough poll workers, I have already committed to be one at our

precinct

[LisaL]

15. Yes, since many are elderly, that could be a big problem.

[beachbumbob]

23. yes it is, so there will areas where staffing will be THE issue

I got facemasks galore and our precinct is large complex with lot of space to spread people out

[3Hotdogs]

17. That's what worries me about in person voting...

Poll workers at our location are elderly (Read "old.&quot .

Will there be anyone there to process the voters?

[tavernier]

34. Rachel addressed this and put out a call for young folks

to apply as poll workers. She did this on Friday and told them to do it quickly. I think this will help a bit.

[gulliver]

19. Completely agree. A one-time exposure chance is no bigger than going to the store.

I live in Missouri, and I will be outvoted, but I'm still voting in person just to add to Trump's popular defeat. In Missouri, they made it ridiculously hard to vote by mail. You have to have the ballot envelope notarized and can't present it early in person.

[LisaL]

20. Well, I am not going to stores.

[ooky]

33. Me either. I haven't been in a store since March 19.

It's going to absentee ballot for me all the way, the first day I can send it.

[LisaL]

43. I've already requested mine.

Now, if it doesn't arrive, I will vote in person on election day by provisional ballot (I won't be allowed to vote by a regular ballot since I requested an absentee).

[Sucha NastyWoman]

76. Can someone drop your ballot off for you?

[LisaL]

79. Not legal in some states.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

75. Last time I was an election judge our day started about 6:30 and ended about 8 pm after I finished

Dropping election results off at the county.

[Thekaspervote]

21. Absolutely it is!! We will never be a physically or mentally healthy nation until he's gone

[NightWatcher]

24. I'd crawl on my hands and knees to my polling place.

Early voting location is a mile away and precinct on Election Day is half a mile. I will vote in person.

I mask up for groceries, supplies, why not for election that's way more important to all than my grocery run.

[tulipsandroses]

27. I had the tv on yesterday but wasn't really paying attention, but I heard someone say that churches

were collecting PPE to give out for election day. Does anyone know of any other organizations doing this? If so, they should be promoted far and wide for people that may need PPE and not have access so they know that they have options to get protective gear.

I am thinking of ordering full head to toe gear for all family members.

[quickesst]

29. What ever it takes....

....my vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be counted.

[MoonRiver]

35. I'll do it if I have to.

I'm a cancer survivor (9 years out), and had both hips replaced 4 years ago. But nothing will stop me from voting the POS O.U.T.

[sarge43]

59. Right there with you, MoonRiver

Hubby and I both in the high 70's. He has heart disease and me, COPD and cancer survivor. We're both missing hip and knee joints. Yup, considerable risk factor. Well may be our last presidential election. So be it.

We want to see the most important ballet of our lives go through the scanner and be counted.

[MoonRiver]

81. He's got to go for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

My hubs is 78, I am 71, and nothing is more important than getting rid of the maniac.

[sarge43]

83. Yes. For the children. No higher duty.

See you both at the polls.

[MoonRiver]

85. Absolutely!

[CanonRay]

36. Is it worth the risk to not vote?

Not this time, IMHO.

[McCamy Taylor]

37. Agree. Amazon sells disposable hazmat suits

for those who are higher risk.

[womanofthehills]

40. I live in rural NM and we never have a line to vote

In and out in 5-10 minutes.

[LisaL]

41. Rural counties always have it easier.

[Dukkha]

42. Definitely voting in person

Risk is minimal to me and my second shift schedule makes it easy

[paleotn]

44. Yes....

You want to leave a lasting legacy for your kids or grand kids? Get rid of Donnie. It's more than worth the risk.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. It's broken glass time (easy for a Canadian to say, but I wish you all courage)

Delivering in person a vote in advance is safer and better than waiting in line to deliver a vote at the polling station on election day.

[DallasNE]

47. Make Every Effort To Vote Early

And find and use the drop boxes. No drop boxes then put in mail no later than October 15th and that means put in the request for absentee ballot no later than October 1st. Be sure to read the instructions very carefully and to do everything in the manner described. Leave no margin of error.

Should none of that work out then in person voting becomes necessary and I would do that. Wear a face mask and attempt to somewhat social distance - maybe 3-4 feet instead of 6 feet. Also put a few sheets of disinfectant wipes in a zip lock bag because at the polling place the equipment won't all be wiped down after each usage so you will need to wipe down you hands as soon as your ballot has been deposited. By all means, safety first.

[LymphocyteLover]

48. Agree-- just wear a lot of PPE

which fits with us disposing of toxic waste!

[SheltieLover]

49. Absolutely!

Ppe & vote in person!

[Baked Potato]

50. We will early vote in person.

[onetexan]

53. Ditto. First day of early voting if i'm not working the polls hubby & i are voting.

[Baked Potato]

54. Yes!

[uponit7771]

51. VOTE EARLY !!!

[Cetacea]

57. Depends on what type of voting is presented. I won't vote on electronic machines.

[CaptainTruth]

64. Agree!!! I will early vote!

[riverwalker]

67. I'm in a red district

They make it so easy to vote, it’s ridiculous. In and out in five minutes, coffee and cookies. I will vote in person for all those who can’t.

[cp]

68. Mail your ballots early

In Wisconsin they'll go out mid September. Fill it out and mail it back immediately. The problem with USPS this election is that most states have official deadlines that are Too Late.

If people mail their ballots (correctly signed and witessed, plus sufficient postage for first class) EARLY, it'll be OK.
Don't fall for the hysteria.

I'm a poll worker. I would die to get rid Trump, but I shouldn't have to.

[onlyadream]

70. Totally!

I plan on going, heck, I even signed up to work at the polls (figuring the old ladies and men who usually do it won't want to this year). Unfortunately, I'm thinking that Trump will get it. In 2016 I was shocked, and cried the entire day after the election. I really had no idea he'd win (listening to all the polls). Trump is trying every trick he can think of, and I'm afraid it'll work. I even think he'll go on for a third term, since he knows he needs to die in office or face jail in NY. Sorry to be a downer.

[totodeinhere]

71. You can say that, and maybe you will consider me selfish for saying this.

But I value my life more than anything. If I have a binary choice of dying so that I could vote in person or staying away from the polls and living I would choose life and stay away. Sorry.

But my greatest hope is that I can vote by mail. We have got to find a way to prevent trump from messing with the Postal Service.

[LisaL]

78. I guess the solution is then send your ballot back in as soon as you get it.

If you get it. Some states also have drop off boxes which if you can get to them is a way to avoid USPS in sending your filled ballot back.

[totodeinhere]

86. Yes, I would also happily use a drop off box. I could wear gloves while touching the box

and then wash my hands when I get home.

[Yavin4]

80. You can vote now or join an underground resistance later.

Research underground resistance to Nazi rule as a reference. That's what our future will be like if we do not vote now.

[LisaL]

82. Nobody is saying they won't vote now.

Absolutely ridiculous claim. Poster is saying they want to vote by mail, which until now has always been claimed as a great idea on this very site.
I've yet to see any evidence voting in person is going to go smoothly during a pandemic.
Trump likely got all kind of fun stuff planned for election day too.
I've heard he plans to send observers. Also, if some bozo shows up without mask, he or she has to be allowed to vote.
The whole election day might be one disruption after another.

[totodeinhere]

87. Don't be condescending. I am already well aware of underground resistance to Nazism.

And yes, I intend to vote by mail as soon as I can. I am just hoping that Trump cannot sabotage the Postal Service so that my mail in ballot doesn't arrive in time and does not get counted.

[Riverman100]

72. My mail in ballot

I haven't canceled it yet But I did request the form from the elections office. If things don't turn around right away I WILL go to the polling place to cast my vote against all republicans

[LisaL]

77. I don't know of any mechanism to cancel your absentee ballot request.

At least in my state. Since I requested, I can't vote by regular ballot anymore. It might be different in other states.

[ecstatic]

74. We're in an asymmetrical conflict right now

You propose a good solution, but it's not enough because tRump and the GOP are openly cheating and dismantling our democracy: Purging Democrats from the voter rolls, reducing early vote days and times, closing and switching voting locations, sabotaging the USPS, adding spoilers to the ballot, etc.

If we proceed into an unfree and unfair election, carefully tiptoeing around the known obstacles in naive attempt to work around their cheating, it won't just be trump who gets another 4 years, but we'll lose the House and any hope of holding trump accountable through normal, peaceful means.

House Democrats need to be throwing the kitchen sink right now, while we still have the ability to do so. And to the chronic apologists: it's not about whether they think they'll be successful or not. It's about upholding the law and raising awareness. We always have to do our part, regardless of the timing or how our opponents respond.

[LisaL]

84. I can envision all kind of obstacles to voting on election day also.

It's a pandemic. Poll workers tend to be elderly. If they do not show up, polling places might be closed or merged-more crowds.
If some bozo shows up without a mask, they still have to let him or her to vote. So, whole lot of distractions.
In some large counties, election day voting results in huge lines and long waits-who is to say everybody is willing or able to wait hours.

[gristy]

90. Extending individual commitments on this thread and this board to voters in aggregate...

what this means is that the candidate who has a greater number of passionate voters is the one who is going to win.
Hopefully that means Biden wins, but there sure seem to be a lot of passionate covidiots out there.

[BComplex]

91. I've been planning on voting early, and hoping that there isn't a big line. I also plan to register

with the local democratic headquarters to offer to drive people to early voting, and I'm going to buy extra masks and sani-wipes to make sure our trip to and from the voting booth is safe for everyone.

Almost every state has early voting. If we all volunteer to help people get there, and encourage those who can get there on their own, to vote early, then we should be able to get the volume we're going to need to defeat russia.