John Eastman, a law professor at Chapman University should be fired

[question everything]

Yes, the author of the piece in Newsweek.

Even if Harris' parents were not citizens at her birth, she was born in the United States.

Trump does not like the fact that many pregnant women come to this country so that their newborn would be U.S. citizens. But they are. Trump, at least, recognizes that this is a fact. But for a law professor to claim this!

Chapman University is in Orange County, CA, long a bastion of right wingers..

[Eyeball_Kid]

1. Sour grapes Eastman.

He lost a political race to... wait for it... Kamala Harris.

[question everything]

2. Did he? Interesting

[IggleDuer]

15. Not quite!

He lost a Repubican primary for CA Attorney General in 2010. That Repub lost to Kamela.

[hlthe2b]

3. Inexplicable how law schools employee illiterate law professors, but then UC-Berkley has John Yoo

Honestly, if I were enrolled at a law school employing one of these RW "legal" propagandists, I'd refuse to pay tuition for any required course taught by one of these idiots. I think there would be one hell of a lot of alumni supporting the move and current students joining in.

[ResistantAmerican17]

6. The Yoo thing is nauseating... wtf did they hire a war criminal??

[Solomon]

12. Yes it is. I'm a Berkeley law school alumnus. It's embarrassing.

Ed Meese went there as well.

[ResistantAmerican17]

16. Meese was a Reagan water boi all right, but jeez--Yoo is some next level war crimes guru.

[Mz Pip]

4. If children of immigrants weren't citizens

then Republicans wouldn’t keep bringing up repealing the 14th Amendment.

[Loki Liesmith]

5. I don't think he should be fired for publishing a bad opinion

Academic freedom matters to me.

[question everything]

8. Opinion, or lack of understanding of the law?

What else does he teach that would generate graduates lacking in basic understanding of the law?

[Loki Liesmith]

28. Law is opinion.

Any legal pronouncement on a legal matter is explicitly defined as an opinion.

The idea that it’s an axiomatic discipline a la mathematics is just not the case.

[question everything]

32. OK. But we are talking about the 14th Amendment

What is there to opine? Besides a desire, I suppose, to repeal it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

[BComplex]

10. And freedom of speach means that we can call him out, and call out Newsweek when they publish

trash.

[Loki Liesmith]

26. Sure call him out.

I did elsewhere. But I don’t want him fired.

[COLGATE4]

19. Lawyers are entitled to their opinions. But the difference is that

in the Law, you must buttress your opinion with facts. Eastman's opinion is sorely devoid of any facts that would lead anyone to believe his ultimate 'conclusion'. For a Law professor, that's clearly wrong.

[Loki Liesmith]

25. Again academic freedom permits that he be wrong

[COLGATE4]

33. Academic freedom permits him to be wrong. But as a Professor

of Law it's really slipshod (to be generous) lawyering for him to present his argument without anything to support it. It's the difference between having the right to have your own opinion but not to your own facts. Facts - in this case precedent and jurisprudence - do not in any way support Eastman's opinion.

[BannonsLiver]

20. A racist opinion

[Loki Liesmith]

24. Even so.

[COLGATE4]

34. Either racist or blindly ideologue. Either way it's pathetic.

[The Magistrate]

21. He's Entitled To Speak, Sir, Not To Teach

A critter who presents an opinion so ill-founded as that ought not be anywhere near a class-room save as a student, so he can learn better. And 'academic freedom' cannot be cried over this any more sensibly than it might be over a math teacher asserting two and two make five. They might make eleven or twelve, but never five, and this is not a matter people debate. Neither is the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment regarding citizenship. If a policeman can arrest you, and a court try and sentence you, you are under the jurisdiction of the country. Full stop.

[Loki Liesmith]

23. He's entitled to whatever his contract stipulates.

Full stop.

[The Magistrate]

29. There's Always A Morals Clause Tucked Away Somewhere, Sir

Good repute of the employer, that sort of thing.

[dsc]

31. actually this is a bad opinion on the subject about which he teaches

How is this any different than finding out a math professor thinks 2 + 2 = 5? There is literally no scholarly evidence at all that Ms. Harris or anyone else who parents were citizens at the time of their birth here aren't citizens.

[Thekaspervote]

7. Some WH reporter needs to ask dotard, if this is the case, why all the pregnant Russian women

Coming to mar largo??huh??

[lame54]

9. He previously ran against and lost to Harris

[TomCADem]

11. Chapman Law School Is The Liberty University of Law Schools

nt

[dawg day]

13. Trump's mother was not a citizen when he was born.

The mother of the older Trump kids wasn't a citizen when they were born.

Of course, moral and rational consistency isn't a hallmark of Trumpers.

[mr_lebowski]

18. Actually 1942 she became one. He was spawned in 1946.

Some of his siblings were born before '42, but not assface.

[stopbush]

14. Orange County is no longer a bastion of rwers. Zero of our House Reps in DC are Rs.

All Ds since 2018. Sure, there are enclaves of RWers (Pepperdine U, etc), but we’re blue these days.

Get with the times.

[malaise]

17. Is he related to the Kodak Eastman family

If he is, it may just be quid pro quo for that contract now under investigation.

[cojoel]

22. it is unlikely

George Eastman never married, had no children, and his entire estate was left to the University of Rochester.

[PCIntern]

27. As an aside,

You know it’s really weird. About 10 years ago I had this lovely patient, a lawyer and academician who moved from one of the local universities out to Chapman as a professor. We discussed this at length, and she had made no mention to me that the school is a real haven for right wingers. She herself was an advocate for the rights of prisoners, women in transition, immigrants, and any social issue which gave us plenty of father for terrific conversations over many years.

When I heard she was going to Chapman and I looked it up because I never heard of it I was fairly appalled and wondered actually if she knew what she was getting into. I may or may not ever know, because it’s a long way from Philadelphia. 😄 To my knowledge she is still there.

[pnwmom]

30. Tenure was invented so professors with unpopular and wrong-headed views would be protected.

And I'm sure he has tenure.

[COLGATE4]

35. If he didn't before, it's guaranteed now