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Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:05 PM

Can anyone explain why John Kasich is speaking at the Democratic convention?

Surely, we have enough wonderful Democrats to speak, like Beto. This doesnít make sense to me.

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Reply Can anyone explain why John Kasich is speaking at the Democratic convention? (Original post)
dlk Aug 16 OP
LisaL Aug 16 #1
hlthe2b Aug 16 #8
Thekaspervote Aug 16 #40
still_one Aug 16 #11
mitch96 Aug 16 #27
FarPoint Aug 16 #36
Demsrule86 Aug 16 #2
dlk Aug 16 #15
doc03 Aug 16 #3
Botany Aug 16 #4
LisaL Aug 16 #5
leftieNanner Aug 16 #13
50 Shades Of Blue Aug 16 #67
OnDoutside Aug 16 #14
Hassin Bin Sober Aug 16 #19
Botany Aug 16 #26
Hav Aug 16 #28
Botany Aug 16 #33
JI7 Aug 16 #58
Doremus Aug 17 #73
JI7 Aug 16 #51
Tribetime Aug 17 #71
Mz Pip Aug 16 #6
LisaL Aug 16 #10
Brother Buzz Aug 16 #7
underpants Aug 16 #9
sop Aug 16 #12
leftieNanner Aug 16 #16
Laffy Kat Aug 16 #17
rufus dog Aug 16 #61
Laffy Kat Aug 16 #69
Midnight Writer Aug 16 #70
stillcool Aug 16 #18
JDC Aug 16 #20
gulliver Aug 16 #21
BannonsLiver Aug 16 #22
SiliconValley_Dem Aug 16 #23
brooklynite Aug 16 #24
dlk Aug 16 #25
brooklynite Aug 16 #41
dlk Aug 16 #56
JI7 Aug 16 #53
dlk Aug 16 #57
JI7 Aug 16 #59
dlk Aug 16 #63
JI7 Aug 16 #65
Roland99 Aug 16 #29
DemocratSinceBirth Aug 16 #31
dlk Aug 16 #34
Roland99 Aug 16 #35
monmouth4 Aug 16 #37
Drunken Irishman Aug 16 #49
monmouth4 Aug 16 #52
CottonBear Aug 16 #39
Hav Aug 16 #30
dlk Aug 16 #32
JI7 Aug 16 #50
Kamala4TheWin Aug 16 #38
StarfishSaver Aug 16 #44
Baclava Aug 16 #42
StarfishSaver Aug 16 #43
DrToast Aug 16 #45
ecstatic Aug 16 #46
dlk Aug 16 #47
JI7 Aug 16 #54
BamaRefugee Aug 16 #48
JI7 Aug 16 #60
JI7 Aug 16 #55
aikoaiko Aug 16 #62
Progressive Jones Aug 16 #64
Music Man Aug 16 #66
dlk Aug 17 #72
Crunchy Frog Aug 16 #68
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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:06 PM

1. He doesn't like Trump and we need more republicans like him to vote for Biden?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM

8. Yup and it is symbolic of Biden's pledge of bringing unity.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:20 PM

40. This!

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM

11. and it can help us with Ohio.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:19 PM

27. +1... If it flips 1 or 10 or 100 republicans it's worth it.. nt

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:53 PM

36. That is how I see it...

I'm okay with it today...

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:06 PM

2. Winning Ohio is possible...it is about unity.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:11 PM

15. Is Sherrod Brown on the speakers list?

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:06 PM

3. He hates Trump and all he stands for. nt

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:06 PM

4. Because Kasich wants to be president in 2024

n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:07 PM

5. And you think speaking at our convention is going to help him to achieve that goal?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:10 PM

13. I think he does.

After we win in November, there will be absolute chaos with the economy in free fall and the virus still rampaging through our country. Kasich is positioning himself to be the "sane" republican who will ride in on his white horse and fix everything in 2024. He's just as toxic as all the other Republicans, just not as stupid and outwardly cruel.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:07 PM

67. Bingo! Absolutely.

Kasich is a fucking wolf in sheep's clothing. He knows how to pretend to sound reasonable but he is a rightwinger through and through and he would no more seek "unity" with Democrats if he had a good chance of being elected President than fly to the moon.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:11 PM

14. Exactly.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

19. Yes.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:18 PM

26. Yes, John will try to sell the idea that he can work "with both sides."

John is an incredibly manipulative person who believes that Jesus walked on earth so
that he can one day be President.

No way should Kasich be allowed to speak @ the DNC .... I know the he can help in OH
meme but John's folksy "nice guy act" (BTW I know John ... haven't seen him in years)
covers up that he can be ruthless. His dad was a union mail carrier in McKee's Rocks, PA
but that hasn't stopped John from being anti union and and anti USPS too. He is also
a member of ALEC, a Fox News lie-person, and a Koch sucker too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #26)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:28 PM

28. But you and/or Kasich are underestimating the rabid Repub primary electorate

if that is indeed his reasoning. It's possible he might have ambitions but speaking at the Dem convention is a death-knell to winning the Repub primary and every other Repub contender will bash him for it relentlessly.
Likewise, Zell Miller would have had no chance had he run as a Dem after 2004.

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Response to Hav (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:34 PM

33. You might be right and I think John knows that Trump "won" the 2016 primary w/help from Russia too.

Kasich is very good @ the spin and he might be able to sell the meme that removing Trump
was the right move in trying to protect and restore America.

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Response to Hav (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:15 PM

58. Like Huntsman losing the Republican Primary for another run at Governor

after serving in Obama admin. And he didn't even support Obama for president .

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Response to Hav (Reply #28)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:22 PM

73. Like Miller, the problem for Kasich is repukes want nothing to do with him . So why are we giving

him precious time at OUR convention again? Dems hate the guy and so do his fellow repukes.

Jesus this is a bad move. So we can appear "united"? That worked well for Obama didn't it. Where is our common sense???

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Response to Botany (Reply #26)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:02 PM

51. Trump supporters don't care about that stuff

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:27 AM

71. Exactly he's all about himself

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:07 PM

6. I don't have a problem with it.

Maybe he will appeal to some disgruntled Republicans.

I want Biden to demolish Trump and we need more than just progressives to do that.

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM

10. That's exactly what I think is going on.

Not all republicans are crazy about Trump.
Someone like Kasich could appeal to those republicans.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM

7. It's a big shout out that Democrats are willing to reach out and work with opponents

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM

9. It's good. Take the win.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:09 PM

12. The Democrats are going for moderate Republican voters disgusted by Trump.

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Response to sop (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:11 PM

16. I agree to a point

Except that Kasich AIN'T at all moderate.

He's just not crazy.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:12 PM

17. To help pull-in some Independents?

I don't care for him, but I understand.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:23 PM

61. One issue with your comment - the question mark!!!!

 



Will he have any impact on Republicans? Likely very small. That being said, he has the potential to switch more repukes than the net gain of having Beto, etc., speak.

But solidifying the "Indies" that is the key.

Some Indie (Ex REPUKE) is getting hammered when he tells his buddies he is going to vote for Biden, built in retort, John Kasich endorsed him!

It is just a fig leaf for them.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #61)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

69. Yes, and Kasich describes himself as a conservative Republican.

He wrote-in McCain on the 2016 ballot. It sure can't hurt.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:52 PM

70. Absolutely. This is a play for Independents. Especially Ohio Independents.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:12 PM

18. don't know, don't care.

eye on the prize.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

20. An evangelizing convert can be very powerful

Especially one from Ohio.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

21. I'd take Romney too.

At the very least, it would shake up the Fox News bubble world that keeps former Obama-voting Trumpies brainwashed. A good chunk of Never Trumpers voted third party also, and we could use them in the Biden column.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

22. Doesn't bother me a bit

I may not necessarily watch it because there will be a lot of speeches but if it brings more people to vote for Biden itís worth a few minutes. My advice is if people find it upsetting to take that time to make snacks.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

23. I am sorry you haven't figured it out

 

pretty obvious

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

24. Because he's supporting Joe Biden...

...and because we don't win States like Ohio with just Democrats

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:14 PM

25. This is about family. Kasich can vote for whomever he choses

I donít think he should get a speaking slot. There are a lot of Republicans who donít like Trump.

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Response to dlk (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:34 PM

41. This is not about family; this is about winning the Presidential Election

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #41)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:09 PM

56. It is both

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Response to dlk (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:03 PM

53. It's not about family, it's about winning an election which includes Ohio

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Response to JI7 (Reply #53)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:15 PM

57. If you know anything about Republicans, and I know many,

Then youíll understand that a speech at our convention by Kasich wonít change any of their minds. They will either vote for Biden or not and we can reach out to them during the campaign. For me, the Democratic convention is about Democrats.

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Response to dlk (Reply #57)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:17 PM

59. Kasich himself is a conservative Republican supporting the democratic ticket

because of trump's corruption.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #59)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:43 PM

63. Trump's corruption wasn't exactly a secret before Republicans made him their nominee

If they choose to vote for Biden/Harris, thatís really great. However, I donít hold out any illusions about who and what Republican Party actually stands for. They have shown us time and time again. As far as Iím concerned, it would be preferable to have our kumbaya moment after the convention.

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Response to dlk (Reply #63)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:01 PM

65. Kasich didn't support Trump in 2016 either

There is no kumbaya moment for anyone.

there are those who hate to see Biden getting supoort becsuse they want him to lose and then there are those who want him to win .

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:29 PM

29. Wasn't it Zell Miller who switched and spoke at RNC?

Edited. It was Zell. Not Zeke

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #29)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:31 PM

31. Yes.

I have no problem with Kasich speaking.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #29)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:40 PM

34. Which Republican convention did he speak at?

What office did he hold in the Democratic Party?

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Response to dlk (Reply #34)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:45 PM

35. 2004. Zell Miller was a Democratic Senator who spoke at RNC

Supported Bush

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:04 PM

37. Zell Miller and Chris Matthews. What a great exchange that was. I don't remember it exactly but it

was great and Chris played it for all it was worth...LOL.

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #37)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:56 PM

49. He wanted to duel with Matthews. It was really unhinged.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #49)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:02 PM

52. HA! I remember now, what a hoot that ole man was. Unhinged was it exactly..LOL. n/t

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:10 PM

39. We Georgians called him Zig Zag Zell. N/T

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:30 PM

30. I think those who pretend to be so disgusted about this

are usually the ones who are mostly occupied with attacking Democrats anyways.

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Response to Hav (Reply #30)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:33 PM

32. What does this have to do with attacking Democrats?

That makes no sense at all

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Response to Hav (Reply #30)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:00 PM

50. Some would prefer these people support Trump like Joe Rogan is doing

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:06 PM

38. I know right

 

Whereís Beto and Julian? We donít need to hear from reformed Republicans

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Response to Kamala4TheWin (Reply #38)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:47 PM

44. Kasich will likely bring in more votes than Beto and Julian combined

Smart move

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:43 PM

42. Free food?







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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:46 PM

43. Because he can probably convince some Republicans to vote for Biden

I don't have a problem with it.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:50 PM

45. Because we're trying to win an election

This November? Heard about it?

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:51 PM

46. I agree. He should not have been invited. I would have preferred to

hear from Lebron James, Oprah, hell, any of our great democratic allies.

That being said, the DNC convention is actually the LAST thing on my mind right now. We need to quickly get through next week and then immediately pivot to the USPS hearings. I love our team and ticket, but it's all meaningless if the game is rigged and our votes aren't counted due to criminal mischief!

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #46)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:54 PM

47. Exactly

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #46)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:05 PM

54. No thanks, I would rather try to win an election which includes Ohio's electoral votes

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:55 PM

48. F*ck Kasich. If Biden wins Kasich will attack him nonstop beginning on Inauguration Day.

Heís among the worst of the worst.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #48)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:19 PM

60. Who cares. Biden being President is what matters

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:09 PM

55. Because Kasich supports and will vote for Joe Biden even though they disagree in issues

becsuse Kasich thinks Trump is worse for the country than someone he disagrees with on issues.

He is actually supporting the democratic ticket unlike the scumbag trolls from 2016 that booed Hillary Clinton, John lewis and other (mostly black) Democrats and ended up supporting Trump because they claimed the democratic candidate wasn't progressive.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:34 PM

62. Is he our Zell Miller?


maybe so.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:47 PM

64. In the make up of the GOP of the past 20 years, Kasich is a moderate.

Moderate Republicans hate Trump. They also hate the low ratings of the current GOP in Congress.


Like it, or not, this nation is going to need help from both sides of the aisle to right the ship.
Not just in regards to the Trump mess, but for years down the road.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:16 PM

66. It's a fine idea.

Not everyone's a Democrat in this country, and having a member of the opposing party stand up and speak for Biden is a way of sticking it to them. It's a way of saying that Donald Trump is too batshit crazy.

We need to get over our purity. Kasich isn't going to be up there spouting Republican policies. He's going to vouch for Biden's character, experience, family, and saneness vs. Donald Trump's. It helps reinforce an overarching narrative about Biden.

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Response to Music Man (Reply #66)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:51 AM

72. Kasich is a poor choice

He is an extremist and I, for one, have had more than enough of Republican extremists. There are other ways to reach across the aisle without lending credibility to any Republican extremists.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

68. I'm fine with it. This election transcends regular party politics

and normal partisanship.

Having principled Republicans participating in the campaign will hopefully help to communicate that to the electorate.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:25 PM

74. I want him to speak. They had their Joementum and Zell Spit Balls.

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