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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:22 AM Aug 2020

I sincerely welcome the help being offered and given by our Republican allies.

When it comes right down to it, I am able to look at things realistically and rationally by remembering that we're not MARRYING them for Pete's sake. They aren't "Trojan Horses". We're not re-writing our platform to suit them. They aren't taking over our party.

We're simply accepting their help... and we need all the help we can get. All of this handwringing and overwrought emotion and anger serves no useful purpose. Second-guessing and denigrating our nominee and party only creates distrust, suspicion and negativity. Threats of retaliation, or to withhold contributions (or votes), or promises to change party affiliations do not help either.

Those types of threats and smears only serve to create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

Many Republicans (and others) will continue to speak out against Trump (and for Biden) from now until election day, so everyone needs to get used to it. They're here to help and they're here to stay.

All I'm trying to say is this... I hope that the angry people can find a way to just let-go and TRUST JOE! We need to put our nation first and not indulge our vanity and pride. We can't afford that luxury. Joe knows what he's doing. Our party leaders know what's needed right now... so get out of the way and let them get on with doing what needs to be done.

Thank you! The Biden/Harris 2020 Train is about to leave the station... GET ON BOARD!!



C'MON! GET IN! We're taking back America!







Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
They're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!





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I sincerely welcome the help being offered and given by our Republican allies. (Original Post) NurseJackie Aug 2020 OP
we are a big tent party and offer to ALL americans, even republicans a seat at the table beachbumbob Aug 2020 #1
We're at war. We need help from everyone! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2020 #2
We use to have Reagan Democrats...now we have Biden Republicans and that is a good thing. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #3
Biden Republicans has a nice ring to it! Someone get it trending on twitter? KS Toronado Aug 2020 #32
We are all Americans. C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #4
As far as I'm concerned Ohiogal Aug 2020 #5
I'm OK with accepting help from people of other political persuasions who will put country above Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #6
Note here, Nurse Jackie! True Blue American Aug 2020 #7
The monster must be evicted. dalton99a Aug 2020 #8
most of those upset about it are the ones usually attacking democrats JI7 Aug 2020 #9
Yes, I've noticed also. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #10
And those people are making it clear they don't trust Joe's judgement. cwydro Aug 2020 #22
I'm 100% with you. dware Aug 2020 #24
Yes indeed! cwydro Aug 2020 #25
The big difference is that Democratic Presidents usually bring in very smart knowledgeable people LiberalArkie Aug 2020 #27
It's like using people who have the same goal is a new and bizarre concept. It's politics! betsuni Aug 2020 #11
Yaknow... I was only 5 years old, so I don't really remember Ike getting elected, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #12
Yea. We must be about the same age and I feel about the same. LiberalArkie Aug 2020 #30
We are traveling companions, at least for the time being. FM123 Aug 2020 #13
I will take all the help we can get. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #14
The Republicans are there to endorse Biden, not vice versa gratuitous Aug 2020 #15
Help right now in need, North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #16
People have to consider in a Parliamentary Democracy sort of light. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #17
The enemy of my enemy... Maeve Aug 2020 #18
Exactly this DenverJared Aug 2020 #19
Rec. cwydro Aug 2020 #20
A HUGE THANK YOU NurseJackie!!!!! dware Aug 2020 #21
At this point it's ALL hands on deck in this country. davsand Aug 2020 #23
Yes! Mike 03 Aug 2020 #26
American Patriots vs. Dictatorship bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #28
For reals whttevrr Aug 2020 #29
+1 !!! n/t Pobeka Aug 2020 #31
When you are in a foxhole with someone, you only care if they shoot straight obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #33
Remembering, of course, that they will be after a different agenda on Jan 21. marble falls Aug 2020 #34
Of course. We're not marrying them. We're dating them... a one-night-stand (so to speak). NurseJackie Aug 2020 #37
Tinder hookup ... marble falls Aug 2020 #38
Who cares as long as Biden is president and Trump is out of there JI7 Aug 2020 #39
I totally agree. It is a no brainer. nevergiveup Aug 2020 #35
Any non tRump republican is welcome and should speak out, there is just too much at stake. nt yaesu Aug 2020 #36
In a war, sometimes allies are needed, even if questionable on their own merits Bongo Prophet Aug 2020 #40
Agreed, Jackie! ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #42
When the Titanic has hit the iceberg, that's not the time to quibble over who's helping load... Hekate Aug 2020 #43
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. we are a big tent party and offer to ALL americans, even republicans a seat at the table
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:24 AM
Aug 2020

why I oppose litmus tests 100%

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
3. We use to have Reagan Democrats...now we have Biden Republicans and that is a good thing.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:29 AM
Aug 2020

We need moderate voters this year as we did in 18 and 19. I think AOC is very talented, but she can't run down to Ohio and campaign for us effectively. Ohio is in play. Kasich could help deliver the state. The fact is we are only successful with a big tent approach. That has always been true.

Ohiogal

(31,895 posts)
5. As far as I'm concerned
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

Anyone who wants to help us get rid of Trump, we should accept their help. We need all we can get.

I am no fan of Kasich, but I thought he was quite good last night, talking about putting country ahead of party.

Arkansas Granny

(31,505 posts)
6. I'm OK with accepting help from people of other political persuasions who will put country above
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

party to help rid us of Trump, as long as we don't allow them to influence our party positions.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
7. Note here, Nurse Jackie!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

Ohio is a blanking big deal and Buckeyes were tuned in last night! How many you think Kasich brought over?

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
27. The big difference is that Democratic Presidents usually bring in very smart knowledgeable people
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:52 AM
Aug 2020

to advise the office holders. It does not make any difference if Joe went into full dementia. He will have the smart people backing him up. In the Democratic Party we can be assured that when his time has come, he will be told and he will hand over the Resolute Desk to Kamala.

A republican will never give up what he has voluntarily, even if it is best for the office.

betsuni

(25,371 posts)
11. It's like using people who have the same goal is a new and bizarre concept. It's politics!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:46 AM
Aug 2020

There's not always a nutty quid pro pro conspiracy theory behind everything.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
12. Yaknow... I was only 5 years old, so I don't really remember Ike getting elected, but...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:54 AM
Aug 2020

there were pictures of him all over my ancestral home. Mostly my grandmother's doing and my father, although a conservative Republican, believed military leaders should not enter politics because they were trained to conquer, not govern. His experiences in Patton's Third Army no doubt influenced that view.

Anyway, the point of all this is that I have been alive for every election since Truman, and while I don't remember the details of all of them, none of them were even close to the divisions and hatreds today.

Yeah, I remember Nixon, and Johnson and the massive crowds against the Viet Nam mess. And I remember Kent State and the assassination of King. And lunch counters and firehouses and angry dogs taught to hate black skins.

And "Strange Fruit"

Back then, though, it was hate the commies and the n***. Specific targets, so you could chose a side to join. Or oppose.

Not good at all, but predictable, and you chose your weapons and fought the good fight.

Now, it's unfocused fears and hatreds so it's so much more difficult to identify. Even the haters themselves aren't so sure just what it is they hate. We call it racism, but it's more than hating a race-- it's the inability to accept anyone not conforming to your personal standards. Reverting to ancient behaviors mistrusting the people in Cave #3 because they are going to steal your wives and food. Of course, Cave #3 believes the same of you so you will never sit down and talk it out.

The planet has had times of cooperation, but more often times of empire. I fear our short era of cooperation is coming to an end. And that invites empire.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
13. We are traveling companions, at least for the time being.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:00 AM
Aug 2020

We are walking together toward the White House so we can remove that monster from the Oval Office.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. The Republicans are there to endorse Biden, not vice versa
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:38 AM
Aug 2020

If some single-issue voters (I'm thinking mainly the anti-woman anti-choice folks) get the idea that, just this once, they can vote their interests rather than the further oppression of women, I'm in favor of it.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,145 posts)
17. People have to consider in a Parliamentary Democracy sort of light.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:42 AM
Aug 2020

Different parties and groups make strategic alliances for the greater good.

That's all it is.

Maeve

(42,269 posts)
18. The enemy of my enemy...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:43 AM
Aug 2020

I am from Ohio and do NOT like Kasich, but anyone who helps beat off the alligators while we make our way out of this swamp is welcome!

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
19. Exactly this
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:47 AM
Aug 2020

We need every vote we can get. Even ex-felons who have paid their debt to society.

It is simply like this ---

Say you're a vegan and don't like people who feast on animals.
Say you're carrying a heavy load up the hill by yourself and sweating profusely. Two or three meat-eaters come and help you carry the load up. You thank them for their help.

It does not mean you'll start eating meat and give up your vegan principles just because they helped you.

dware

(12,249 posts)
21. A HUGE THANK YOU NurseJackie!!!!!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020


I sincerely don't understand this party purity crap by a few here, our Democracy is under attack by the Mango Menace and his criminal organization and we should welcome all, rather they be Dem., Rep. or Ind., we are going to need every vote we can get to expel this criminal from the WH and if that means allowing anti Trump R's at the Convention, then so be it.

As you said, we're not marrying them.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
23. At this point it's ALL hands on deck in this country.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:14 AM
Aug 2020

Convention is about rousing support for the nominee. Yes, appeal to the base--firm it up--but raise support for the candidate from the middle ground persuadable voters too. The fundamental plank in the platform, IMO, is get that orange anus out of the Whitehouse. Getting the Whitehouse fumigated is gonna take votes from people that aren't always allies on every issue, and accepting that is fundamental to success in any election of this magnitude. Anything else beyond the issue of firing Donnie can be hashed out later.

Take the republican help this year!



Laura

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
26. Yes!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:29 AM
Aug 2020

For the moment, my senate candidate doesn't need funds so I'm donating to The Lincoln Project.

I welcome their help!!!

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
29. For reals
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:53 AM
Aug 2020


When a pit-bull is gnawing at the leg of the robber trying to steal your life away, you don't stop the pit-bull.

obamanut2012

(26,041 posts)
33. When you are in a foxhole with someone, you only care if they shoot straight
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:11 PM
Aug 2020

You don't have to have a beer with them at the rear after the battle.

k & r

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
37. Of course. We're not marrying them. We're dating them... a one-night-stand (so to speak).
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:22 PM
Aug 2020

A Tinder hookup.

nevergiveup

(4,755 posts)
35. I totally agree. It is a no brainer.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:12 PM
Aug 2020

The thought of Trump being re-elected is terrifying. There is likely going to be massive voter suppression. We are going to need all the votes we can get. All hands on deck. Being picky at this point is insane.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
41. Agreed, Jackie!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:24 PM
Aug 2020

As I posted yesterday, the people making this political decision are from an organization that has won 6 of the last 7 presidential elections, by popular vote.
A couple of odd events prevented them from being 7-0, & 28 straight years of D presidents.
I trust their political acumen.

Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
43. When the Titanic has hit the iceberg, that's not the time to quibble over who's helping load...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:13 PM
Aug 2020

...the lifeboats.

Thank you NurseJackie

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