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Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:01 PM

You gotta know the Trump regime is planning to plant many overtly fraudulent mail-in ballots...

to make the election look like a fraud.

Trump has the worst poker face of anyone I've ever seen.
When he begins spouting off about something over and over again, it means the GOPutin machine is working on creating said lie.
They used to be good at creating these lies because they would do it silently in the background; now Trump blasts it out over and over and over making it obvious what is about to happen.

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Reply You gotta know the Trump regime is planning to plant many overtly fraudulent mail-in ballots... (Original post)
C Moon Aug 18 OP
aquamarina Aug 18 #1
HotTeaBag Aug 18 #6
aquamarina Aug 18 #7
HotTeaBag Aug 18 #10
aquamarina Aug 18 #13
Cetacea Aug 18 #15
aquamarina Aug 18 #16
Cetacea Aug 18 #18
fescuerescue Aug 18 #19
brooklynite Aug 18 #2
Dan Aug 18 #3
tinrobot Aug 18 #4
Retrograde Aug 18 #8
Patterson Aug 18 #5
jorgevlorgan Aug 18 #9
malaise Aug 18 #11
Brother Buzz Aug 18 #12
Baitball Blogger Aug 18 #14
C Moon Aug 18 #17

Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:10 PM

1. Most states have tracking systems on mail in ballots.

Such as a bar code that is scanned when the ballot is received. This would make it highly unlikely fraud ballots would be counted since they would have nothing to match it against. And given Trump and/or Jared would be in charge of such a scheme, it would be as successful as all of Jared's other ones.

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Response to aquamarina (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:52 PM

6. I *think* what the OP was getting at is that they'd intentionally send in ballots that

 

didn't meet the required criteria to be accepted, to try to "show" that there is in fact wide-spread fraud with mail-in balloting.

They're not sending them in to be actually counted - just the opposite, they'd get flagged as fake on purpose.

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Response to HotTeaBag (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:01 PM

7. Where would they get ballots?

If they make fake ones, they will be caught by the counters. If the point is to send in fake ones to try to get past the counters, the likelihood of success is practically zero. And a trace back of the fake ballots will probably land you back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I guess I just have more faith that the people working the elections are not idiots.

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Response to aquamarina (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:08 PM

10. I don't know.

 

It's not my plan, nor my OP.

But I do understand the feeling behind the expectation of some sort of identifiable voter fraud created to bolster what Trump and his administration has been (falsely) touting for weeks and will become a much larger issue once we get to November.

It's not hard to image that Trump won't pull out all of the stops to try to do as much damage as he can in an attempt to delegitimize the results in the minds of the voters.

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Response to HotTeaBag (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:42 PM

13. I totally get what you're saying.

I wouldn't put anything past Trump, lizard that he is, but I don't believe he has the skill set to pull it off. I mean this whole post office thing is Exhibit A. They thought they could just steamroll the shut down of the post office. Looks to me like it backfired spectacularly. I'm not saying it hasn't been damaged, but it seems a lot less likely that they will be able to get away with their plans.

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Response to aquamarina (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:53 PM

15. Ah, but has it really backfired? Voter confidence in mail in ballots has dropped

Quite a lot. That may have been the intent all along.

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Response to Cetacea (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:07 PM

16. Maybe

but I've been voting absentee for 20+ years and I know for a fact there are ample safety measures built in to the process. I can track my ballot from the date it is mailed to me to the date it is received and tabulated.

There are plenty of voices out there (News people and Michele Obama included) who are working to counter the Orange assholes lies. Have a plan, have a backup plan and have a backup plan to your backup plan.

I am DONE with this bloviating liar and his lies about a rigged election. Pure, 100% projection.

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Response to aquamarina (Reply #16)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:18 PM

18. Same

This must end.

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Response to aquamarina (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 04:14 PM

19. The idea is that it WOULD be detected

and blamed on dems.

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:11 PM

2. I don't know that; do you have evidence, or is this just a rant?

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:38 PM

3. Even if they did,

The ballots has to meet certain criteria:

1. First they have to be inside a valid security envelope. Expensive

2. They have to have a valid bar code. Time consuming and Expensive.

3. They have to match the bar code to the area that they would be voting. Time consuming.

4. They have to match the bar code to the area, and the ballot, and the person voting.

5. Then finally, the signature match.

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Response to Dan (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:44 PM

4. And this is why vote by mail can be devastating to election stealers.

Electronic voting machines meet none of those criteria. That's why elections now tilt red in previously blue states.

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Response to Dan (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:07 PM

8. And they have to get the ballot right in the first place

I'm in California, land of "cram as many things on the ballot as possble". In addition to president, this year we have US Congress, state offices, local races (including the hard-fought school board, which judging by yard signs is THE most important one), state propositions, local propositions and who knows what else. So they have to match the ballot to the address: sure, they could just copy one of the official ballots the county sends out, but the county includes 4 congressional districts and at least as many state assembly districts, which don't overlap. It's a dead giveaway to have votes cast for the 14th district when the voter is supposed to be in the 18th! Maybe it'd be easier in smaller states, but this is just another level of complexity that makes it hard to manipulate mail-in ballots.

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:48 PM

5. Counterfeit counterfeit ballots.

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:07 PM

9. Then they get thrown out with the rest of the uncountable ballots

And our election will go on. Our votes will be counted. States will certify, and at noon on January 22, 2021, Donald J Trump will no longer legally be the President of the United States, if he loses. No redos!

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:09 PM

11. He is going to try and steal the non-white vote but it won't work

When you're hated this much with all those dead bodies, it's over

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Response to C Moon (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:27 PM

12. Registrar of Voters have a couple of built in safeguards against fraudulent ballots

I'm guessing that pesky bar code will be the first line of defense. It will be fun reading stories about the crap that gets sent in.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:09 PM

17. Yes!!

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