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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it probable that Putin is instructing Trump on how to sabotage the election ??
Most Russian experts will tell us that Mr Putin is very talented at tearing down democracies.
To think that our Intelligence listened into all calls of our Presidents, with foreign leaders, until Donald Trump, and that he has made at least a half-dozen calls to Mr Putin and nobody in our government knows what they talked about? And it is reported that he wants to meet with Mr Putin in secret sometime before the election. Would this be called a "failure in intelligence" or just the disintegration of the institutions of our government?
Either way, the idea of disrupting our Postal Service - to the degree that it has happened - seems to be the work of some outside source?
With the mail now backed up in a lot of places - mostly because overtime has been prohibited - it may take longer than expected to get back to normal? The workers at the post offices will tell you that they move a billion cards thru the mail at the Christmas holidays. Surely they can move a third of that with the mail-in ballots?
The states and localities should begin addressing the need for polling places, if the mail system does not return to normal, in my opinion. People need to have a backup place to vote if the US Postal System is too damaged. Preparations should begin immediately, in my opinion,
to staff previous polling stations. People in every precinct should have a place to vote, and should be close to their homes. There should be someone to record in a computer file the numbers in their precinct, from the election. Three citizens would count the ballots and agree upon the numbers. There would also be the paper ballot for a trail. There has to be trust in our voting system.
If this is not the end of the dirty tricks from Donny and Vlad, What could they do next?
OAITW r.2.0
(24,446 posts)We take down Trump, the world will be going after Putin They need each other.
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)kentuck
(111,076 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)we get out the damn vote.
Vote, encourage others to vote, contribute to Democratic candidates and quit worrying about what might happen. We beat ourselves in 2016, with some help from Putin, trumpsters, Comey, people who didnt vote Democratic in protest, etc..
Hopefully, weve learned our lesson.
kentuck
(111,076 posts)unless they hire more people or request more overtime from their present employees? The mail is backing up.
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)crimycarny
(1,351 posts)I think its a certainty, not just probably or possible. BUT, youve got equally powerful cyber hackers like China wanting Trump to lose. So, if nothing else, they negate each other.
Lonesome Beet
(43 posts)After sowing distrust of the postal system? I imagine scaring people from going to the polling places a likely idea. Passive approach could be simple as having an upsurge in testing (thus upsurge in positive cases) in select areas before the election. Less passive could be fomenting violence or threats of violence at polling places then loudly attributing it to the opposition.
Cha
(297,121 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)It seems rather obvious now in committee findings that the Cretin involved/invited/embraced Putin to help him steal the election.
Talk talk talk talk and more talk ensues. WHY are these not crimes that can be prosecuted NOW???
kentuck
(111,076 posts)The FBI should be all over it and the AG should stand behind them. Preferably.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Chump would appoint another russian asset.
lanlady
(7,133 posts)There is enough evil in Trump and in those around him to think up these dirty tricks all by themselves.
But there's no doubt in my mind that Putin and Trump have a tacit understanding of Russian assistance in less detectable and more subtle ways.
kentuck
(111,076 posts)But Putin is the expert.
Trump is very good at divide and conquer.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,486 posts)We know that Putin is running the Donnie Dumbfuck show.
We know how Putin deals with his political opponents.
We can expect Donnie to act more and more like Putin.
Therefore, none of the following would surprise me in the least:
Prominent Dems "falling" from high balconies and windows.
Plutonium on Biden's doorknob.
Biden and Harris arrested and jailed, and conveniently infected by COVID in jail.
Secret police Stormtrumpers obstructing access to polling places in Dem areas and closing down post offices in Dem areas. Even arresting suspected Dem voters.
Secret police Stormtrumpers arresting local Dem organizers, closing Dem facilities and headquarters, stealing GOTV computers, voter lists, etc.
Heavily armed "militias" patrolling Dem areas and intimidating everyone in sight.
Heavily enraged Karens and Kevins coughing and spitting on voters in line trying to socially distance.
I'm serious. This could all happen. Putin is in charge.
kentuck
(111,076 posts)They will continue to sew discord and disrupt the process.