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Botany

(70,585 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:55 AM Aug 2020

I along with most of DU are now deeply shocked that the info shows that Trump worked with ...

... and sought out Russia help in the 2016 elections.

Do I need to add this?

And I will be just as shocked when it turns out that Russia was into voter rolls, the hardware and
software of electronic voting machines and central tabulators, and that they rigged the outcome
of the elections and installed people like Donald Trump and Ron Johnson into power.

Just one little favor can the media stop saying that Trump is running for re-election because he
was never elected in the first place.

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I along with most of DU are now deeply shocked that the info shows that Trump worked with ... (Original Post) Botany Aug 2020 OP
What next? Someone will suggest he's not been faithful to any of his three wives? hlthe2b Aug 2020 #1
Or claim mercuryblues Aug 2020 #2
Rick, "I'm shocked." Botany Aug 2020 #3
Still works empedocles Aug 2020 #6
One of my favorite scenes... WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2020 #17
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #4
Shocked! Laelth Aug 2020 #5
Yes, I nearly clutched my pearls in astonishment. ms liberty Aug 2020 #7
I'm not only shocked, I'm Deeply Concerned. nt Buns_of_Fire Aug 2020 #8
Grr! Collins is a real piece of work. I just found this out. Botany Aug 2020 #9
Thank you for this. Sinistrous Aug 2020 #10
Isn't pascrell one of those outraged by the current attacks on USPS? Yet he voted FOR that niyad Aug 2020 #16
One way to look at the USPS's requirements......... KS Toronado Aug 2020 #18
Yep, we had no idea any of this happened dalton99a Aug 2020 #11
Ditto. Most of us on DU knew this and it was confirmed by Obama, Mueller, Manafort's trial, iluvtennis Aug 2020 #22
I'm just shocked to see the words "Trump" and "worked" in the same sentence. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #12
So...the thing in the W.H...is an illegitimate W.H. squatter! Illumination Aug 2020 #13
just emailed rubio onethatcares Aug 2020 #14
Agreed. Love your signature line...feel the same way. c-rational Aug 2020 #15
Exactly seta1950 Aug 2020 #19
He is an illegitimate president. Scarsdale Aug 2020 #20
If you read Mary Trump's book about Don you will find out that Trump mastered his father's methods usaf-vet Aug 2020 #21
Unfortunately he was actually elected Layzeebeaver Aug 2020 #23
We knew in summer of 2016 they were into voter roles of over half the states. Obama wanted to go Amaryllis Aug 2020 #24

WinstonSmith4740

(3,057 posts)
17. One of my favorite scenes...
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:23 AM
Aug 2020

From my favorite movie. I've got it loaded up to post here too when Il Douche does something "shocking"! You beat me to it!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. Shocked!
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:12 AM
Aug 2020


Here’s the downside. Trump can argue that the 2020 election was rigged if the Russians meddle again. It will bolster his call for a do-over.

-Laelth

Botany

(70,585 posts)
9. Grr! Collins is a real piece of work. I just found this out.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:01 AM
Aug 2020

Susan Collins Engineered the USPS Disaster She’s Now Protesting
Trump may be trying to sabotage the election, but the war against the Postal Service goes back decades.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/08/18/susan-collins-engineered-the-usps-disaster-shes-now-protesting/

(Killing the USPS ... that should be real popular with the people in rural Maine)

As it turns out, Collins is actually one of the members of Congress most responsible for the Postal Service’s devastation. Long before DeJoy started manipulating the USPS, Collins was at the forefront of a bill that crippled the agency’s finances.

In 2005, she sponsored and introduced legislation, the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA), that required the USPS to pre-pay the next 50 years worth of health and retirement benefits for all of its employees—a rule that no other federal agency must follow. As chair of the Senate oversight panel at the time, she shepherded the bill’s passage, along with her House GOP counterpart Tom Davis, during a lame-duck session of Congress. It passed by a voice vote without any objections—a maneuver that gave members little time to consider what they were doing.

George W. Bush and Susan CollinsEric Draper
To meet the mandate for prefunding USPS’s health and retirement benefits, the measure required the Postal Service to place roughly $5.5 billion into a pension fund every year between 2007 and 2016, followed by sizable additional payments, making it impossible for the institution to run a profit. To make it even harder for the USPS to make money, the law prohibited the agency from any new activities outside of delivering mail. In an essay for the Washington Monthly last year, New Jersey Congressman Bill Pascrell, who voted for the bill, called it “one of the worst pieces of legislation Congress has passed in a generation.”

niyad

(113,576 posts)
16. Isn't pascrell one of those outraged by the current attacks on USPS? Yet he voted FOR that
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:20 AM
Aug 2020

Last edited Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:02 AM - Edit history (1)

deliberately destructive bill???

KS Toronado

(17,329 posts)
18. One way to look at the USPS's requirements.........
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:24 AM
Aug 2020

the USPS to pre-pay the next 50 years worth of health and retirement benefits for all of its employees,
congress made them prepay for workers who are not even employees yet, let that sink in. If one
retires at 65, they have guaranteed benefits to age 115, how many people live that long?

iluvtennis

(19,874 posts)
22. Ditto. Most of us on DU knew this and it was confirmed by Obama, Mueller, Manafort's trial,
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Aug 2020

previous Senate reports, and now again by the one just released this week.

Trump is indeed The ILLEGAL OCCUPANT of the White House.

onethatcares

(16,185 posts)
14. just emailed rubio
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:19 AM
Aug 2020

asking what actions he would take now that collusion is more obvious............for some reason I don't think he'll give me the courtesy of a reply, Especially since he was chair of the senate intelligence committee that laid this piece of crap on the table.

I'd write or call pRicksnot but all I get from him is, "the jerk represents all citizens of his district..." bullshit. Only if you're handing him donations will he notice you.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
20. He is an illegitimate president.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:45 AM
Aug 2020

He should be removed from office. Forget his whining about the next election being "rigged". The last one was, and should be written off the history books. Putin knew what he was doing, getting tRump involved with him and Russian women. So many weak spots with tRump, he was an easy mark for Vlad. Russian TV even brags about how they "still own tRump" What a mark of respect for a US president eh? They found a person greedy enough, dumb enough and self-centered enough and here we are. The gop are as much to blame for this disaster. They knew all along that he was unqualified, could never measure up to the job. He never even tried, why should he when his golf courses awaited were he can make money by ignoring the emoluments clause. He should have to pay that back to the treasury, he gained it illegally. He blithely went along, ignoring the normal rules and laws, and was never admonished. The gop are as guilty as he is. They have now shown their true colors. ANYONE will do as president, just as long as they can make money for the gop.

usaf-vet

(6,209 posts)
21. If you read Mary Trump's book about Don you will find out that Trump mastered his father's methods
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:52 AM
Aug 2020
....... Never admit you are at fault and always have a fall guy to blame. The difference according to Mary Trump's is Donald's dad remained a successful businessman worth millions. Whereas Donald has failed at every step. He only managed to build his false facade as successful because his dad continued to bail him out.

One example in the book his dad sent his driver to one of Donald's failing Atlantic casinos with a suitcase with 2.0 million dollars to buy 2.0 million dollars worth of chips that the father never intend to use. It was a way to infuse 2.0 million into the near-bankrupt casino. Eventually, all THREE Trump casinos failed.

This is 100% the way Trump works.

Trump also used intermediaries as fall guys. Although the Senate's VOL 5 Russian investigation names dozens of contacts between the Russians and the 2016 Trump campaign it doesn't cite Trump having direct contacts. But his right-hand guy and his left-hand guy sure had direct contact. These "fall guys" Roger Stone and Paul Manafort were his "they did it fall guys". Trump sought and received Russian help in the 2016 election. PERIOD!

Layzeebeaver

(1,642 posts)
23. Unfortunately he was actually elected
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:01 AM
Aug 2020

Albeit via an antiquated and non democratic election system.

Regardless, we need to use that same system to un-elect him.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
24. We knew in summer of 2016 they were into voter roles of over half the states. Obama wanted to go
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:28 PM
Aug 2020

public with it but MItch said he'd accuse him of trying to throw the election if he did.

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