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No President has ever publicly trashed a sitting President the way Obama just did. Let other Democrats observe and understand that these times are different. The era of comity and deference is over. The gloves are off. Obama just confirmed that. He showed how all Democrats in office and in the public eye should take on Trump and his enablers. Truth to bullshit. No holds barred. Finally. Before its too late
FoxNewsSucks
(11,919 posts)it was classy and Harris just delivered the knockout
consider_this
(2,847 posts)42bambi
(1,753 posts)Ilsa
(64,577 posts)and presidential. But he couldn't do it. Instead, he was selfish, boorish, obsessed, greedy, and power hungry. He had to be taken down a few notches. PBO was perfect.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)We won't get another chance to do this right. The time to say what America needs to hear is now and no one could say it better than President Obama.
consider_this
(2,847 posts)fierywoman
(8,631 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I can not WAIT for her to debate mother's boy.
fierywoman
(8,631 posts)Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)doesn't replace him with a woman. If he's still losing, and I believe he will be, he may do it as a Hail Mary.
Wednesdays
(23,137 posts)She will have to defend Dump's record. Doesn't matter who it is, they will wilt under Prosecutor Harris' cross-examination!
Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)Don and his cons think they can just switch out Pence for, say, Nikki Haley and that's gonna neutralize Harris' skills. It won't. Crooked Donnie can't change the mountain of crimes, fuck ups and facts.
lastlib
(28,620 posts)He'd better have an anti-diuretic in his water glass.
Kali
(56,898 posts)Skittles
(172,883 posts)IT IS NOW
WELL DONE
malaise
(297,971 posts)and necessary
I wrote on another thread - it was Muhammad Ali taunting Ernie Terrell with what's my name?
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(131,241 posts)dalton99a
(95,304 posts)ecstatic
(35,135 posts)is he even alive at this point?
SergeStorms
(20,818 posts)and I myself am not a "twit", so I don't follow him. I imagine he'll be tweeting at his usual Adderall addled hours of 3:00-5:00 am. I really don't care what the filthy pig has to say. It'll be nothing but lies anyway.
calimary
(90,809 posts)Tweeting in all caps.
What-EVVVVERRRRRR...
SergeStorms
(20,818 posts)you can pretty much rest assured veins are popping out in his orange, puffy face. His hair facsimile is sticking out all over the place, fast food wrappers clutter the area, and diet Coke cans are knee deep. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he suffers a deep vein thrombosis and has a stroke.
I'm a bad man.
ecstatic
(35,135 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)But all of DU will be there with you.
calimary
(90,809 posts)Bobstandard
(2,374 posts)I was prepared for a typically excellent performance but I didnt expect this level of vitriol. Hes pissed. As pissed as we are. And as worried.
calimary
(90,809 posts)Didn't seem like vitriol to me, so much as hard uncomfortable truth. And warnings, to those of us willing to listen - and to respond accordingly.
He knows what the score is. He just wants the rest of us to know it, too.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)But, do not rewrite history that the Democrats have not been VERY vocal, because they have.
Bobstandard
(2,374 posts)Obama in essence approves an escalation.
PatrickforO
(15,525 posts)Then tonight he threw everything, including the kitchen sink.
And he did it with class and finesse.
The rest of us - oh, we've been resisting, but tonight they really brought that rebuke of Trump and his enablers.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)lecturing Democrats to follow suit. I was not allowing a rewriting of history because for the last three years our Democrats have taken Trump on and I do not think it is fair to imply otherwise.
Cha
(320,590 posts)when it really counts Now!
Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)and wise. He spent a whole bunch of that political capital tonight, but saved enough to pack a wallop for the next two months.
Cha
(320,590 posts)JoeDuck
(79 posts)President Obama represented the sharp contrast between an educated, dignified person and a schoolyard bully. How can anyone compare President Obama and Trump, and say that Trump deserves to be president?
C_U_L8R
(49,534 posts)Now it's our turn. You know what to do.
lame54
(40,102 posts)His amazing patience
crickets
(26,168 posts)Exactly. Being nice is not going to get it done. It's now or never time.
SergeStorms
(20,818 posts)the gloves are off, and our Democratic leaders have been delivering knock-out punches all week. I, for one, LOVE IT!
FoxNewsSucks
(11,919 posts)if this, here and now, isn't what that powder was kept dry for all this time, I don't know what else it could be
nmgaucho
(527 posts)Absolutely loved it!
oasis
(53,986 posts)PatrickforO
(15,525 posts)Towering.
And he was. I could feel his fury at what Trump has done to this country. Obama was a great president and continues to be a great man.
KPN
(17,512 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,704 posts)He isnt the type to brawl, especially against a sitting president, from a national stage. PBO has so much respect for the office and for our democratic institutions.
It must have been a terrible decision to make and I hate that PBO had to be the one to do it. But it needed to be said.
Thank you President Obama.
niyad
(134,035 posts)LizBeth
(11,222 posts)and yes. That is a good way to state how i felt when he was done.
Great comment. Yes, it needed to be said ... and he said it. He did so because he wanted to, not because it was what people wanted to hear. As he himself said, "because it needed to be said".
C Moon
(13,738 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,704 posts)C Moon
(13,738 posts)Sorry about that!
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)and that's a big effing deal, really saying something. As Joy said "one of the best prosecutions of a sitting president that I've ever heard".
KPN
(17,512 posts)of attention for at least 50 years!!!!!
speaknow
(321 posts)That poor Dotard. That SOB ran his mouth on OB1 many many
times. I'm glad OB1 finally spoke up, he told the truth, that SOB
was born without a soul, pure evil. Others did well too!
And that Myles Taylor speaks out now about that Souless MF.
He quit, he got tired of licking that SOB's boots.
KPN
(17,512 posts)Thank you President Obama for saying, as you say, what needed to be said -- but better than anyone else could ever say it!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,903 posts)But god dammit...K and Fucking R
C Moon
(13,738 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)they must live by and thats to never take their eye off their enemies because theyll destroy the dictators if given a chance. You just know he has an ever expanding list of enemies he must always watch. Always.
A Dictator who stops watching every move his enemies make is a dead man walking.
You can bet Trump has watched every minute of the Democratic Convention.
Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)and he did not disappoint. That speech hit me to my core. For him to have that sense of urgency, speaks volumes. I miss him so much.
Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)let me be the one to take him, let me be the hatchet man on the stage in front of America. Mano a mano.
Withywindle
(9,989 posts)I love Obama and miss him dearly - but if I thought he had a flaw, it was that he was TOO optimistic and hopeful. Too willing to extend his hand across the aisle even when he should have known it wouldn't be returned and the gators would just bite it off.
He's so SO good at appealing to the better angels of our nature - and sometimes I wanted him to, not even "go low," but meet the already low on their level for a few fistfights.
This speech was one for the history books. He let it go and he spoke truth to power. I really hope everyone watching that takes it to heart.
He sounded scared, at times. I never saw him scared before, no matter what awfulness was going on in his term. He was always empathetic, compassionate, brave, intelligent, eloquent (all these things Trump can't even pretend to be). I never saw him sound FRIGHTENED.
And I realized - because he IS such a true believer in American democracy, his biggest fear is seeing that irrevocably destroyed. He's almost 60 years old. He's never seen that possibility being likely before in his lifetime. But now he does.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)in which an angel comes with power to re-envision, change and save all the misguided souls in the soviet Politburo. After the agonizing realities of totalitarianism have nearly destroyed the protagonist's life and mind, as if from a fevered dream, up springs this angel, appealing to the goodness and peace latent in all people. Soothing anguished hearts and restoring brutalized consciences. Changing scowl lines into laugh wrinkles. I think the author used this image to close his narrative because he wanted to express the premise wherein a tortured mind sustains and regenerates itself in withdrawal from reality. I've always thought about how that made me feel then when Obama speaks his vision of optimism.
As men age they tend to tear up more often. Probably a tear duct issue or leaky eye valve. I weep even to hear Don Quixote's name.
Kitchari
(2,963 posts)mwooldri
(10,827 posts)DJT has broken so many presidential "norms". So for Barack Obama to do what he did is in my eyes a start of some sort of payback. And you know what they say about payback...
bucolic_frolic
(55,840 posts)Don't mess this up. Democracy is dead if you do. We stand on the cusp of totalitarianism. This election is about democracy vs. dictatorship. Vote, or it will be your last.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)When Dubya speaks at the GOP convention, he will support Dotard.
Right?
(Sarcasm thingie goes here.)
mnhtnbb
(33,505 posts)to not participate in his party's convention.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,438 posts)Democracy is the US in on the brink, that is clear. Obama gave voice to just how close to the edge our Democracy is. "Trump will tear our Democracy down to stay in power."
That's what the stakes are right now, for America to continue being a Democracy or for us to fall into something else.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Show as much "respect" to Don the Con as HE shows to anyone who does not agree with him, fawn over him. He is VILE in his attacks. Why should democratic politicians be expected to mind their manners, when the goon in the WH has none? Most of the gop sits back and lets him carry on, without any blowback. Well, their day is coming. Many of them will go down with him, deservedly. So wonderful to see and hear a REAL President speaking truth to power again.
fescuerescue
(4,475 posts)where the former Presidents trash current opposition Presidents.
You KNOW Trump will do it to Biden.
It will be our new tradition. That's ok. Traditions change and I'm glad Obama is leading this one.
Wednesdays
(23,137 posts)that Dump won't live long enough to be at the 2024 convention.
fescuerescue
(4,475 posts)Tommymac
(7,334 posts)or better yet whatever Jail cell he is in permits internet...
Fla Dem
(27,773 posts)It's about time.
wiggs
(8,851 posts)Trump and the WH have compiled such a list of outrages, probable crimes, probable treason, treachery, grift, and incompetence that no one convention could cover it all and still talk about positivity and dems.
He took the gloves off compared to his usual style and approach...but Trump deserves so much more, like Steve Schmidt level roasting on national TV. everyone knows it and so I don't call what Obama did trashing or stepping out of his lane or another example of division because Trump has EARNED every reproach, analysis, observation, and ridicule based on his behavior.
Texin
(2,868 posts)After the *election*, he always behaved with circumspect professionalism in his meetings with Herr DICKtator[sic]-in-Waiting, but in my opinion, he has never NOT felt disgust and contempt for this mountebank. I guess he felt the time was right to speak his mind about this disgusting and dangerous mobster and Traitor Tot.
JHB
(38,337 posts)But respecting the office demands that putting on a smiley face is a thing of the past. And the future, we hope, but not for now.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Every one of us want to do this. Are doing this!
ProfessorGAC
(77,290 posts)PINO doesn't respect the office. So, if he shows no respect, neither does anybody else!
BHO knows that, and took the gloves off!
obamanut2012
(29,512 posts)Hitler was Chancellor, and he was also legally elected.
JHB
(38,337 posts)Texin
(2,868 posts)After the *election*, he always behaved with circumspect professionalism in his meetings with Herr DICKtator[sic]-in-Waiting, but in my opinion, he has never NOT felt disgust and contempt for this mountebank. I guess he felt the time was right to speak his mind about this disgusting and dangerous mobster and Traitor Tot.
grobertj
(240 posts)mac2766
(658 posts)An historic speech. I really would love to see Barack Obama on the supreme court. He's a wonderful American and I can say that I am so proud that I voted for him twice. I was proud to be an American to see him elected President. My heart swelled.
Needless to say, in the 2016, the least I can say is that I cringed at the outcome of the election. I was one of probably billions world-wide that found themselves in complete disbelief that Donald Trump was elected to the presidency of the United States of America. How did that happen? What in the world went so wrong that he was elected?
If you haven't had a chance to watch it, there is a documentary titled "The Brainwashing of my Dad". Many of the answers can be found in that documentary.
Go Joe and Kamala. I will proudly vote a straight Democratic ticket this year. Although I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries, I gladly support this ticket.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)steve2470
(37,481 posts)For that, he has my undying gratitude. We absolutely MUST defeat Trump. Trump wants to be a dictator. That is very plain. If he is re-elected, he will trash as much of our democratic institutions as he possibly can. Then, he will use the government to elect a successor (once he gets tired of playing president) who is just as bad as he is or moreso.
I used to never understand how Hitler got appointed by von Hindenburg, but now I do. Anti-semitism is not Trump's most prominent feature, but neo-Nazis love him and support him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power
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