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For the life of me, I will never understand how GOPrs perceive basic reality... (Original Post) MrScorpio Aug 2020 OP
Me either and I hope I never do. onecaliberal Aug 2020 #1
Because it comes from their bigoted feelings. THey are willing to make up anything to justify those JI7 Aug 2020 #2
They long for the days when only rich white males had power. fleur-de-lisa Aug 2020 #3
For one thing most of them don't seem to have even gotten the most basic training mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #4
So wait you're not trying to say the tooth fairy is not real TEB Aug 2020 #11
Let's just say if blasphemy is what you're in the market for ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #12
They don't perceive reality the way it truly exists vlyons Aug 2020 #5
Sort of a delusional disorder, but not full blown ... RKP5637 Aug 2020 #8
I think some have some significant mental problems. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2020 #6
Fear The River Aug 2020 #7
Yeah, that is pretty much the common thread!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2020 #9
Conservative propaganda. John Fante Aug 2020 #10
the one thing they ALL have in common Skittles Aug 2020 #13
Tribalism. moondust Aug 2020 #14
propaganda and brainwashing. I would say you demigoddess Aug 2020 #15
I was stationed at the Pentagon when I listened to Rush back in the 90s MrScorpio Aug 2020 #16
The very concepts of truth and reality are different for them. unblock Aug 2020 #17
fMRI images have shown that conservatives show more fear than progressives. Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #18
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #19
It all comes down to epistimology, how they determine truth and reality hvn_nbr_2 Aug 2020 #20

JI7

(89,260 posts)
2. Because it comes from their bigoted feelings. THey are willing to make up anything to justify those
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:30 AM
Aug 2020

feelings .

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
3. They long for the days when only rich white males had power.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:32 AM
Aug 2020

They don’t want black people, brown people, gay people, and women to vote. They want us to quietly accept whatever shit they choose to shove down our throats.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. For one thing most of them don't seem to have even gotten the most basic training
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:33 AM
Aug 2020

In the subjects of 'Logic' and 'Critical Thinking'.

That or they just didn't pay attention, or simply could not grasp it.

Without critical thinking skills, people develop all kinds of random and silly ideas about ... things.

Being exposed to beliefs in magical fairy sky daddies and having the idea that there is such a thing shoved down your throat from an early age ... doesn't help.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Let's just say if blasphemy is what you're in the market for ...
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:48 AM
Aug 2020

I've definitely got you down.

Whatever sort you want

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. They don't perceive reality the way it truly exists
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:35 AM
Aug 2020

They see only the pictures and movies in their heads. Their minds are filled with selfishness, fear, hatred, entitlement.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. Sort of a delusional disorder, but not full blown ...
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:41 AM
Aug 2020

Something like this ... but on the light side...

"Delusions are the main symptom of delusional disorder. They’re unshakable beliefs in something that isn’t true or based on reality. But that doesn’t mean they’re completely unrealistic. Delusional disorder involves delusions that aren’t bizarre, having to do with situations that could happen in real life, like being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve mistaken perceptions or experiences. But in reality, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated." WebMD

IMO a lot of this is encouraged and fostered by outfits like Fox News for the profit motive.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
10. Conservative propaganda.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 12:43 AM
Aug 2020

It indoctrinates and, in many cases, radicalizes those who consume it. It isn't only low IQ individuals who are susceptible either. Look at that piece of shit James Woods, for example.

demigoddess

(6,644 posts)
15. propaganda and brainwashing. I would say you
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:00 AM
Aug 2020

aren't old enough to have listened to Rush in the 90s. Plain old brainwashing. we studied it in high school.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
16. I was stationed at the Pentagon when I listened to Rush back in the 90s
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:08 AM
Aug 2020

He was sounding freaking ridiculous back then

unblock

(52,286 posts)
17. The very concepts of truth and reality are different for them.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:25 AM
Aug 2020

It's all based on tribal loyalty. If their leader says x is so, then that's their truth and their role is to go around insisting the x is so. If enough people go along with it, then they win and x effectively becomes reality.

That's certainly true is x is an image thing. For instance if they all go around tying some negative trait to an opposing candidate, then eventually that becomes part of that candidate's image. It works in politics. Not in science, but it works in politics. For all practical purposes, it becomes reality.

That's why they get so defensive when challenged. You're presenting yourself as an outsider, an enemy, and you're literally threatening their reality. You might think you're simply disagreeing, but they don't see it that way at all.





Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
18. fMRI images have shown that conservatives show more fear than progressives.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:39 AM
Aug 2020

RWNJs have busy limbic systems, especially the amygdala which is reactive during fear. Progressive, OTHO, have more gray matter in the brain, you know, for thinking.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

hvn_nbr_2

(6,488 posts)
20. It all comes down to epistimology, how they determine truth and reality
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

If they want to believe something, then it's true. If they don't want to believe something, then it's fake news.

What you and I call evidence and data and observation have nothing whatsoever to do with what really is. The only determinant of reality is what they want to believe.

That's how they can know immediately that something is fake news, without looking at any evidence or reasoning. Evidence and reasoning and rationality have nothing to do with reality. What their own eyes see has nothing to do reality if they don't want to believe. That's how they can be fervently certain of absolute nonsense.

That's how they can know for certain that Hillary eats live white Christian babies with taco sauce on the veranda of the sex slave colony on Mars that she runs out of the basement of a place that doesn't have a basement. If it says something horrible about someone they hate, then it's true automatically because they want to believe it.

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