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Michigan allows for every citizen to cast a mail in vote. Every registered voter should have received a request for an absentee ballot. I am inclined to do so for ease and convenience. Also, I am guessing lines will be enormously long.
My understanding is that Michigan law will not allow for the mail in ballots to be counted until after in-person voting has concluded. I anticipate it could take days for Michigan to post "official" results. (Thank God our SOS and Attorney General are Democrats.)
I definitely anticipate Trump filing suit against the state for whatever dubious reason he and Barr can dream up.
Should I show up? I need to decide soon.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)Im inclined to vote in person. I would like for a very strong lead for Biden to be apparent on election night.
But I request a mail in ballot. Im in a high risk age group and sole caretaker for my husband. I cant be sure what my circumstances will be in November.
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)All to feed Trump's narcissistic supply. I wish you my best.
Thekaspervote
(32,750 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I would say, if you live in a blue state..vote by mail if you can. If red state, hazmat suit up and brave going to poll.
Ms. Toad
(34,057 posts)I would not want to risk being ill on election day and having to choose between voting and staying home to protect others from COVID 19.
You may have other options - such as in person early voting or dropping off your ballot. Whatever you do, vote early, at a time of your choosing, so you don't risk being unable to can at your ballot.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Does Michigan (or better yet local) law allow you to cede your mail-in ballot to an election official at a polling place to be spoiled and exchanged for an in-person ballot if you decide to vote in person?
My state (Illinois) apparently does. I will be receiving a mail-in/drop off ballot, but may possibly decide to instead cast an in-person vote at an early voting site, beginning October 14. It all depends on the situation closer to the time.
I too want to have my vote show up in the tabulation on election night itself. I think its important.
Even if you mail or drop off your ballot very early, it may not be counted by Election Day. Each state has different rules for when they start to count the mail ballots. Check it out, folks.
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)"After receiving your absent voter ballot, you have until 8 p.m. on Election Day to complete the ballot and return it to the clerk's office. Your ballot will not be counted unless your signature is on the return envelope and matches your signature on file. If you received assistance voting the ballot, then the signature of the person who helped you must also be on the return envelope. Only you, a family member or person residing in your household, a mail carrier, or election official is authorized to deliver your signed absent voter ballot to your clerk's office."
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716_8728-21037--,00.html
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,911 posts)I have put my ballot there so that I'm sure it gets to them.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)That is the OPs concern.
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,911 posts)For us, that's where they count the votes. I drop it off at City Hall the day before election day. They start tabulating after the in-person votes are counted. I assumed the concern was if it were mailed in, when would it be counted because of possible delays.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Here's a chart of when states can start processing mail-in ballots (some are not until Election Day, and that's just for processing, which can take a long, long time: each signature has to be checked) and when they can start counting them (many not until the polls close on Election Day, and again, that could take some time).
Check your state here:
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx
You may live in a relatively small locality. For cities like mine (population 2.6 million; metro area 8.9 million), if you drop off your ballot the day before and counting begins after polls close ... it could take a month to verify and compute all results).
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,911 posts)Just trying to offer some thoughts on the issue from my situation.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I was going to do mail in, but do not feel comfortable risking it with DeJoy's attack on our postal service.
As a previous poster stated, I want a HUGE in person landslide by Dems on election night -- too big for chumputin to question or refute.
If you are in a swing state, you might consider early, in person voting if you are able. If not, please be meticulous with mail in ballot requirements & mail it back as early as is allowed & track online to ensure your ballot is received.
Please also check the laws in your state. Laws vary greatly. For example, TN does not allow mail-in ballots to be hand delivered to any location. They must be mailed in.
Let us know what you decide.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not taking any chances.
Native
(5,939 posts)My friend in Michigan researched his options and decided this was the best & safest way to cast his vote. There is a drop box at his poling place. There may be one at yours.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)If you receive your ballot by mail, you can fill it out and hand deliver it to your clerk's office. So that would be an option if you decide to go absentee. Sounds like you can also change your mind if for whatever reason you decide not to vote absentee, but that would require you to submit a written request to the clerk or spoil your ballot in the clerk's office.
"If a voter has already voted absentee and wishes to change their vote (because the candidate has dropped out of the race, or for any other reason), a voter can spoil their ballot by submitting a written request to their city or township clerk. The voter must sign the request and state if they would like a new absentee ballot mailed to them or if they will vote at the polls. This request must be received by 2 p.m. the Saturday before the election if received by mail. An absentee ballot may be spoiled in person at the clerks office until 4 p.m. the Monday prior to the election. The voter can obtain a new absentee ballot there or vote at the polls. There is no option on Election Day to spoil an absentee ballot that has been received by the clerk."
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716_8728-21037--,00.html
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)Tanuki
(14,916 posts)ongoing GOP sabotage of the USPS I am reconsidering. Here in Tennessee, we are not allowed to drop off absentee/mail-in ballots in person. On the other hand, the memory is fresh for me of having had a severe tornado rip through my county in the wee hours of the morning of Super Tuesday (March 3) this year, with numerous polling places suddenly shut down due to building damage, power failure, blockage of access roads by fallen trees, etc. I was mighty glad I had voted early! I am leaning toward voting in person at the
earliest opportunity, which locally will be October 14. I went online and ordered a clear plastic face shield to add to my mask and gloves ensemble and will bring my own ballpoint pen for signing in and my own hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes. But even so, I keep thinking about the possibility that I could be sick, or that my area could be in the midst of a surge at that time, and those thoughts make me lean back towards mail-in. I hate this ambivalence about something I have always looked forward to. And I mean ambivalence only about the logistics. Wild horses, tornados, and pandemics will not keep me from helping Biden-Harris to rescue our country. One way or another I will put my shoulder to the wheel
Wayoff
(19 posts)I think of all the men and women, who have sacrificed so much, serving in the military to preserve our way of life. I never had to make that sacrifice. However, this election is a battle to preserve our way of life and I am ready to fight. I will wash my hands, put on my mask, grab some disinfecting wipes and stand on line all day if I have to. I will cast that vote and will rest assured that it will be counted.
P.S. My state allows for advanced voting. I will vote as soon as I can!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)I don't think they can report the results until after the polls have closed, to allow for more absentee ballots to arrive.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/VIII_Absent_Voter_County_Boards_265998_7.pdf
The clerks, of course, would like to start counting before election day. At the least, they want to be able to pull the ballots from the envelopes and privacy sleeves and stack them in preparation for counting.
DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)here in PA. This year's primary was our first with "no excuse" absentee voting. It went well overall, no real glitches afaik.
Prior to this year, if you wanted to vote using an absentee ballot, you had to have a reason such as being unavailable during poll operations to vote because you are working, out of town, traveling, etc or a medical condition that keeps you from going to the poll.