Laurence Tribe: "Very bad news for Trump"

[triron]

Link to tweet

[LizBeth]

1. All I have been hearing is court telling Trump to release, never releases. When is he going to have

to release?

[GusFring]

3. Exactly. When will they start holding someone in contempt for not handing them over?

[SheltieLover]

4. This!👆

Sick of their bs appeals! Yes, it is the way the US justice system works, but this is ridiculous!

I hope judge ordered immediate release of records.

[LizBeth]

5. +1

[SheltieLover]

7. I'd always thought

Appeals were only allowed if a procedural error occurred during the 1st session. Not because one doesn't like the result.

[LizBeth]

9. I didn't know the number of appeals available. I thought once they hit the second round of court

that was the end. I am wondering if he keeps doing that second step a number of times with different argument. I didn't know one could do that.

[SheltieLover]

11. Most people probably can't

Not sure.

[LizBeth]

15. Ya. Who knows, right? Lawyer probably and I am not one of those.

[SheltieLover]

16. Me either.

No patience for this bs. 👍

[CloudWatcher]

17. Psst ... he's been ignoring Supreme Court rulings

The only recourse is impeachment, and the GOP Senate isn't going to do that. So there are zero incentives for him to do anything any court tells him to do.

Of course, once he's out of office, there might be jail time involved. All the more reason for him to ignore the results of the election and demand a new one.


ref: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-ignores-scotus-daca-ruling-says-program-is-illegal-will-not-accept-new-applicants-cuts-renewals-to-one-year/

[Lock him up.]

24. He can demand a new election all he wants. Doesn't mean 30 States will comply...

... or even all of them. Once the Electoral-College electors vote, it's done. 270+ is all it takes, unless there is irrefutable evidence it was rigged, something the oRange viRu$$ia never provided in all his con jobs.

RICO the tRump MOB

[onetexan]

35. And if election/decision is suspended in limbo Nancy w/ become POTUS come 1/20/21

which is just fine w/ me

The judge is onto what the idiot is doing - stall until after the election so his team is attempting to appeal again. To any lawyers here: how long can he keep up this appeal nonsense? And in the meanwhile can Vance proceed w/ his case to get the banks to comply?

[LizBeth]

25. Ok. Thanks for that. It seemed to me like he was simply ignoring some of it. Thanks for confirmation

[jaxexpat]

18. He's waiting for the presidential massage part first.

You KNOW all this attention has him perpetually excited. (and some of that's not in jest)

[LizBeth]

26. True that.

[OMGWTF]

28. Deutsch Bank already turned everything over to a NYC prosecutor

https://time.com/5876894/trump-bank-records-prosecutor/

[LizBeth]

30. Right, I remember that. ANd surely they do not have to wait for Trump to get taxes but can get from

IRS. That would be if IRS will follow court order.

[onenote]

34. The returns will have to be released when a final order that is not subject to stay

or further appeal is issued.

The Supreme Court remanded (sent back) this case to the district court with leave given to Trump to file new arguments for blocking th the release not based on the absolute immunity argument he had made and that the SCOTUS rejected. Pursuant to the SCOTUS order, he filed an amended complaint to block the returns from being released (remember, he isn't directly releasing them...his accountants are the ones in possession. The district court has rejected the new complaint and Trump can and will appeal that decision and seek a stay. If he doesn't get the stay, he'll appeal that decision. Eventually it will make its way back to the SCOTUS.

[LizBeth]

36. Thank you for the routing of what is happening. Ok, thanks. None of us get the same opportunity of

continuously using the SC for our bidding. So this is forever and not gonna happen before election.

[onenote]

45. To the extent not everyone has the resources to file every possible appeal

you are right. But its not true that "none" of us get the same opportunity to continue to fight in the courts until a final, non-appealable judgment has been issued.

[LizBeth]

46. Ok. Appreciate that info too, love to be educated. Thank you.

[Blue Owl]

2. How you feelin' today, Donny?

Not too good...

[ProfessorGAC]

6. They'll Fish For Another Cause

This is a delay & stall merrygoround
They are not going to comply before Nov 3 unless the court starts issuing contempt charges.
Absent enforcement, this will take 3 years.

[SheltieLover]

12. Then they need to do so

Sick of this bs! Voters have a right to know what chumputin is hiding!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. Distract and Delay...All Trump has...

And the Courts are saying....ENOUGH!

[Johnny2X2X]

10. Trump has already appealed

He just wants to run out the clock.

[SheltieLover]

14. Court should immediately reject appeal imo

Bs!

[triron]

23. Do you have a citation for this?

[world wide wally]

13. Everyone is sick of your bullshit, Donnie

EVERYONE

[2naSalit]

19. He'll be so constantly enraged...

By the time his convention gets going that he'll be such a mess, maybe this time we'll see spontaneous combustion!

[OMGWTF]

29. Traitor Tot is supposed to give a two-hour speech. That should be interesting.

[2naSalit]

44. I wonder if he'll be able to...

Make it to the end of it! I wonder if anybody will bother to watch, I plan on missing it.

[Warpy]

20. No, these are mob lawyers, they use every trick in the book

Until Judge Marrero gets a little tougher than just circular filing the bogus arguments, they're going to continue to try to run out the clock.

It will be great fun if the clock runs out in October and the Republicans are the ones who get surprised.

[onethatcares]

21. I'm waiting for the bathrobe and wheelchair gambit

that's usually the next pitch. But then he'll have to admit what we all know. He's to old and infirm to be pretending he's president.

[Warpy]

38. No way, he'd have to give up golfing until the case went away

He'll pull that one when his kyphosis gets to the point he can't swing a club any more.

[LuvNewcastle]

22. We need something major to drop before

the Republicans nominate their candidates. If it's something bad enough implicating Trump, they might dump him. He probably will blackmail any of them who abandon him, though. If they have more, they need to go ahead and release it.

[ChazInAz]

27. I wonder.

Could the RNC be scheming to dump him at the convention? It would certainly be easier to do remotely than at the typical brawling con.

[Captain Zero]

31. that's right business like and impersonal when done over zoom

Dump Trump

[LuvNewcastle]

43. That would be funny as hell!

He would have to complain about it on Twitter.

[TruckFump]

32. Frankly, speaking as a long-time attorney...

...it is obvious that those representing tRump are our of their fucking minds.

I was embarrassed from them ... and that says a lot since my opinion of their legal expertise ranks lower than dog shit.

[Loge23]

33. Gaming the system

Career criminals are often quite good at gaming the legal system, as we are continuing to see from this administration.
So today, yet another ruling against trump - in a continuing series of rulings against him. Frankly, I can't recall any ruling actually going his way. This includes the myriad court cases against him and the ill-fated and much maligned Mueller Report.
Yet, nothing happens.
Aside from the mystery of how much in legal fees this is all costing, the game, like whack-a-mole, is to keep 'em guessing for as long as possible - perhaps to the expiration of limitations which is an issue in this case.
Already, the WH Crime Family has applied for an emergency stay and an appeal to the Supreme Court,, which to this lay person seems redundant. The SCOTUS has already ruled that the Crime Family can appeal to the merits of the subpoena, which they did, and this ruling today shot that down.
But on we go. Not sure when the Stuate of Limitations on this matter expire, but Cy Vance Jr., the prosecuting attorney, has already raised that possibility of the courts don't issue a final soon.

Aside from the legal argument, readers here will wonder as I do: What kind of idiot would still support this Crime Family??

[berni_mccoy]

37. Dismissed WITH PREJUDICE.

No retries after this.

[triron]

39. Thank you! So hope next step taken to get Trump's financial docs very soon.

Like today or tomorrow.

[berni_mccoy]

42. It still must go through appeals process unfortunately.

It’s unlikely Vance will get them before the election but it could be expedited.

[budkin]

40. And he instantly appealed it.

How many times can he do this?

[triron]

41. No way. See post 37 above.

[Lucinda]

47. KNR