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Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:51 PM

After reading Mary L. Trump's book, I almost feel sorry for the man.

Almost, but not quite.

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Reply After reading Mary L. Trump's book, I almost feel sorry for the man. (Original post)
bluescribbler Aug 2020 OP
MiniMe Aug 2020 #1
Laelth Aug 2020 #4
Mike 03 Aug 2020 #6
Laelth Aug 2020 #16
Laelth Aug 2020 #2
Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #3
JI7 Aug 2020 #7
Mike 03 Aug 2020 #5
JI7 Aug 2020 #8
Laelth Aug 2020 #17
Vinca Aug 2020 #9
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #10
LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #13
mnhtnbb Aug 2020 #19
cwydro Aug 2020 #23
LisaL Aug 2020 #11
BlueJac Aug 2020 #12
Kaleva Aug 2020 #14
tinrobot Aug 2020 #15
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #18
tanyev Aug 2020 #20
tanyev Aug 2020 #21
Greybnk48 Aug 2020 #22

Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:55 PM

1. I feel more sorry for Freddy

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Response to MiniMe (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:58 PM

4. Yeah. Me too.

The sociopaths/narcissists/psychopaths in the Trump family killed him with relentless emotional abuse (mostly neglect).

-Laelth

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Response to MiniMe (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:02 PM

6. You said it.

That is one terrible, tragic and sad story. It shows how hard it is to defy a Trump.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:54 PM

16. Freddie didn't even defy the family.

He was just the family scapegoat, and it cost him dearly.

-Laelth

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:56 PM

2. He would never feel sorry for you.

Just like he didnít feel sorry for his niece, Mary Trump.

-Laelth

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:56 PM

3. I know several people who had shitty childhoods due to abuse, drug addicted parents, etc.

Some were able to overcome those beginnings and others were not. I'm sorry that any child, even Donald Trump, has a shitty childhood, but that does not excuse the bad things that they may do as adults.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:03 PM

7. He was given millions of dollars and bailed out by his dad. Trump is trash

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:02 PM

5. I was talking to my mom about this dilemma. What I said was that

I feel compassion for the thirteen year old Donald Trump, but that those feelings are completely separate from the issue of his dangerousness to our country and our planet, and that my priority had to be removing him and holding him accountable for his crimes. And I think we can appreciate the awfulness of growing up in that household but still appreciate his fundamental brokenness and dangerousness.

But I get where you're coming from. My mother was interested in how I reconcile my activism and anger against Trump with being a Buddhist. There actually is no contradiction, but it's not easy to explain.

Robert Thurman, Uma's dad and a practitioner and teacher of Buddhism, has written about this issue and the compatibility of feeling compassion and anger simultaneously for someone who is a threat to humanity. I sort of have to block out my compassion when I'm in the heat of battle, as we all are now.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:03 PM

8. There is no reason to feel bad for him. He did not have a difficult childhood

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Response to JI7 (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:57 PM

17. No. He didn't.

He was the spoiled, rotten brat who got whatever he wanted. His other siblings were neglected and abused.

-Laelth

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:04 PM

9. He came from a seriously defective family, but so have many of the rest of us and we didn't

turn out to be self-centered, hate-mongering, ignorant twits.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:04 PM

10. I would, too, if he weren't so malicious and destructive.

This is a man who seems to have no joy in his life. His only pleasure, if you can even call it that, comes from putting down anyone who opposes him, which his father apparently taught him is winning - and losing is completely unthinkable. He doesn't seem to enjoy music or art; he doesn't go to plays or concerts; he doesn't appreciate nature; he doesn't even like pets; he doesn't read anything but news items about himself; he has no real friends, just toadies and hangers-on; his wife doesn't seem to especially like him and all of his wives have been nothing but arm-candy for him (and he cheated on all of them); his relationships with his oldest children are weird, to say the least, and he seems to have none at all with the youngest; he has no hobbies other than golf, at which he cheats because he always has to win; and he's so absurdly vain that he is said to need two hours to do his hair and makeup. Everthing is superficial. He has to have the biggest, the best, the most expensive, the most ostentatious because he needs everyone to know that he's rich. His NYC apartment looks like Versailles redecorated by Saddam Hussein's pimp. He spends every waking hour fretting about the possibility that someone else might be richer, more powerful, more appreciated, more valued, and it drives him crazy. I can't imagine a more miserable existence. But in the process of trying to fill the bottomless black hole of his ego he is causing immeasurable damage, even killing people. So, yes, he's a sad, wretched specimen, but I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him except maybe in the Buddhist sense of compassion for all sentient beings.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:30 PM

13. This post is a work of art.

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:19 PM

19. I agree.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 05:52 PM

23. Very well said.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:10 PM

11. Snap out of it!

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:26 PM

12. Come on, you are kidding.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:34 PM

14. I differentiate between feeling sorry for a child an adult once was and how he or she is now.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:49 PM

15. The man suffers. He hates himself and always has.

Perhaps that is a product of his childhood, but most people do the work it takes to get past their childhoods.

But this man hasn't done his prescribed homework, so every day he looks in the mirror and is slightly disgusted by himself. He tries to hide it with the appearance of wealth, a combover, long ties, and trophy wives. But doesn't work, he still hates himself. His critics just remind him why he hates himself and that is why he lashes out. It is a treadmill that he cannot stop.

It is unfortunate that he suffers so much. It is even more unfortunate that he channels that suffering to hurt others. But he can stop the suffering it if he wants. Many others have.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:58 PM

18. Trump is living in a Hell of his own construction.

Unfortunately he's making the rest of us live in his attic.

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Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 05:08 PM

20. I could if he were just a miserable old nobody who spent his days in a recliner

yelling at the TV. But he actively sought a position of great power so he can inflict his pain and anger on the entire country, even the world.

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Thu Aug 20, 2020, 05:15 PM

22. Not me. It is what it is.

Fuck Trump and his whole family.

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