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AOC: This is extremely concerning. The pantry is absolutely not bare. (Original Post) melman Aug 2020 OP
Start with growing "the pantry" with taxing assets and income for the rich. Fuck that, they gotta .. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #1
really? That's what is "extremely concerning"? stillcool Aug 2020 #2
It kinda Is. jayfish Aug 2020 #6
A member of the transition team... stillcool Aug 2020 #10
I said 'kinda". jayfish Aug 2020 #11
We knew it was coming. It always does. Billionaires steal our $ then scream "AUSTERITY!!1" Doremus Aug 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author jayfish Aug 2020 #4
Biden has already made clear what he will do, and that is reversing the republican tax cuts, still_one Aug 2020 #5
I just don't understand why Democratic politicians have to pick fights with TOP Biden.... George II Aug 2020 #13
I agree George. Just no common sense still_one Aug 2020 #15
AOC is on message w/the party - Kaufman's the one sowing division nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #17
Kaufman is leading Joe Biden's transition team. The PARTY assessed the messages.... George II Aug 2020 #18
Biden isn't talking about austerity, neither is AOC- they are on the same page Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #22
+1 melman Aug 2020 #20
Joe Biden is the nominee. HIS message was chosen as the message for the Democratic Party. George II Aug 2020 #21
Every word out of Ted Kaufman's mouth is official Democratic Party message? melman Aug 2020 #23
Well, at least he's a Democrat, and not bashing the party. ehrnst Aug 2020 #24
It's a tweet - those words came out of his fingers, not his mouth. George II Aug 2020 #27
Incorrect melman Aug 2020 #28
Not what you posted. THAT was a tweet. George II Aug 2020 #29
So you're saying the words in Stephanie Kelton's tweet came out of Ted Kaufman's fingers melman Aug 2020 #30
Here's the title of the WSJ story that generated the tweet and the concerned retweet. lapucelle Aug 2020 #31
Hell yeah! slumcamper Aug 2020 #7
simmer down lady. if you help Biden and senate races SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #8
Yes empedocles Aug 2020 #14
As a matter of fact the pantry is indeed bare. George II Aug 2020 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #12
Yea, sure. theaocp Aug 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #25
We all know how it works. The pantry is never bare when it comes to tax breaks and bail outs Autumn Aug 2020 #26

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
1. Start with growing "the pantry" with taxing assets and income for the rich. Fuck that, they gotta ..
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

... give back on this shit.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
6. It kinda Is.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:32 PM
Aug 2020

"So we’re going to be limited."

Sounds like a setup for a limited agenda. I imagine it's Mr. Kaufman getting out over his skis but still...

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. A member of the transition team...
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:41 PM
Aug 2020

for a candidate who has not won. To me, it's insane to be 'concerned' about what is not real. Sounds like a setup for causing friction.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
3. We knew it was coming. It always does. Billionaires steal our $ then scream "AUSTERITY!!1"
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:28 PM
Aug 2020

Why in hell a Democrat is playing into it I have no idea.

Can anyone explain it?

all the deficits that he built with the incredible tax cuts. So we’re going to be limited.”

The more I read that the more pissed I get.

Fuck Kaufman, whoever the hell he is. Tax some of your fellow billionaires and get them to repatriate their vast offshore wealth for starters!

Response to melman (Original post)

still_one

(92,331 posts)
5. Biden has already made clear what he will do, and that is reversing the republican tax cuts,
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:32 PM
Aug 2020

taxing capital gains, putting the tax rates back to what they were to the highest bracket, and increasing tax on corporations

Kaufman’s comment, and I don’t know what the full context is, doesn’t mean a thing

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. I just don't understand why Democratic politicians have to pick fights with TOP Biden....
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:53 PM
Aug 2020

....campaign staffers, especially during the week of our Convention. And on Twitter, no less.

What happened to the "Unity Pledge"?

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #16)

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Kaufman is leading Joe Biden's transition team. The PARTY assessed the messages....
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:12 PM
Aug 2020

....of the various candidates over the last several months. They chose BIDEN'S message as "their message" by overwhelmingly choosing him over the 20+ other candidates.

Joe Biden is now officially the Democratic Party's Presidential nominee. It's time for ALL Democrats to line up behind Joe Biden and make sure he wins the election in November.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,650 posts)
22. Biden isn't talking about austerity, neither is AOC- they are on the same page
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

Kaufman is off message with the rest of the party - that may be his own agenda, or what he thinks is palatable to swing voters, but it’s not what Joe is talking about.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Joe Biden is the nominee. HIS message was chosen as the message for the Democratic Party.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:39 PM
Aug 2020

That's the way these things work.

lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
31. Here's the title of the WSJ story that generated the tweet and the concerned retweet.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 11:16 PM
Aug 2020
"Joe Biden United the Democrats—It’s Not Likely to Last"


Retweeting a clickbait quote from a story behind a paywall, especially when the title of the story is "Joe Biden United the Democrats—It’s Not Likely to Last" might not be particularly wise.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
7. Hell yeah!
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:39 PM
Aug 2020

The RW spenders will no doubt scream at the top of their lungs when in the minority.

Call them out. As recent years have proven, deficit spending has become the mechanism to sustain (prop up) a failed market economy. When they do it, it's "stimulative." Why should Democrats be hobbled by them and their screaming?

From an objective perspective, deficit spending represents the gap between the value of goods and services needed and produced in relation to the disproportionate cost of production--including wages and benefits. If the latter were higher, deficits would be lower. To lower the deficit, raise wages--and increase revenue.

There's where it gets sticky. WHO pays? I would suggest that Thorsten Veblen's concept of "conspicuous consumption" might inform the answer to that question.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
8. simmer down lady. if you help Biden and senate races
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:40 PM
Aug 2020

you can claw back some of the money taken out of the budget via tax cuts

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
26. We all know how it works. The pantry is never bare when it comes to tax breaks and bail outs
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
Aug 2020

for large corporations and the wealthy.

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