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Towlie

(5,580 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:17 PM Aug 2020

Politico: "Win or lose, Trump's new GOP is here to stay"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/trump-reshaping-gop-congress-398559

Whether he wins reelection or not, President Donald Trump is remaking the Republican Party for years to come, as candidates ride to Congress by studiously observing the new first commandment of GOP primaries: The Trumpiest person wins.

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I think they missed the mark here. I don't think Trump's GOP is here to stay, although I do think the pre-Trump GOP is gone forever. If we're lucky, the GOP itself will go the way of the Whig Party and also be gone forever.
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Politico: "Win or lose, Trump's new GOP is here to stay" (Original Post) Towlie Aug 2020 OP
I Faux pas Aug 2020 #1
Agree with your assessment. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #2
This!! I don't think they are going to have near the power they think they will Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #9
Haha. The rats will abandon ship after Nov. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #3
I think that the larger problem Chainfire Aug 2020 #4
+100 Spot on! abqtommy Aug 2020 #16
The word "Trump" must be tattooed on the face of the GOP. Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #23
45 won and has historic party approval Cosmocat Aug 2020 #5
A shrinking party zipplewrath Aug 2020 #6
Yes and no Cosmocat Aug 2020 #17
That's the real problem Yeehah Aug 2020 #21
Yep Cosmocat Aug 2020 #22
Well, I doubt it, but that's my opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #11
fuck Politico SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #7
Thank you thank you.. i just don't have anything good to say about Politico either!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #12
In honor of Trump, they'll rename the ashes of their party the Wig Party. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #8
No it is not...he will lose badly and be hated for costing the GOP everything.... Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #10
What if the old Republicans start their own lincoln republican party? jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #13
45 accomplished ONE thing: he stripped away the facade of the GOP to reveal their true nature. VOX Aug 2020 #14
This is what the 2010 cycle of GOP Gerrymandering has done to this country farmbo Aug 2020 #15
At some point, big Republican donors will stop donating money Yavin4 Aug 2020 #18
Trump's GOP will win only blood red districts or truly backward states. Blue_true Aug 2020 #19
Politico is totally wrong. In 1972 sources said that the Democratic Party was dead. Stuart G Aug 2020 #20
K&R, Then its just more people to send to jail ... Trump et al are crooked MFs uponit7771 Aug 2020 #24

OAITW r.2.0

(32,334 posts)
2. Agree with your assessment.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:28 PM
Aug 2020

The Qanon / Organized Crime Party will disintegrate pretty quickly once Democrats get control back of the House, Senate, and WH. There's going to be new priorities on election/voting security and DOJ criminal prosecutions.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
3. Haha. The rats will abandon ship after Nov.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:31 PM
Aug 2020

People like Steve Schmidt, Mike SteeleColin Powell and maybe Romney are going to salvage the party.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
4. I think that the larger problem
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:31 PM
Aug 2020

is that the Republicans are not going to be able to shed the shadow of the Trump administration for years to come. They made their beds, it is up to us to see that that is where they have to sleep. The Republican Party could have gotten shed of Trump this year, but chose to ride it out, so **** them and the whores they rode in on.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
23. The word "Trump" must be tattooed on the face of the GOP.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:32 PM
Aug 2020

This must be hammered home so hard that the Schmidts and Romneys and Powells of the nation will be forced to form a new party in order to escape the filthy, radical right wing trash that has infested the GOP.

Cosmocat

(15,442 posts)
5. 45 won and has historic party approval
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:32 PM
Aug 2020

Because he represents what the party us.

Even if he loses and does not get prosecuted the party will be his and he will be the 2024 candidate.

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
6. A shrinking party
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 04:44 PM
Aug 2020

As they've dove right, the party has actually been getting smaller. If this keeps up after a loss, one could conceivably see the rise of a center/right party.

Cosmocat

(15,442 posts)
17. Yes and no
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

Yes, the "party" has grown smaller, but what people lose sight of is that while the party literally stands for nothing other than spewing hyperbolic nonsense about us evil liberals, and people are not really voting FOR anything other than bigotry and hatred when they vote R, their decades of hate framing liberals still has 50% give or take of the country voting AGAINST Ds.

There is no "center" for these assholes. It is completely binary to 99% of them. I know it is hard for us to understand, but outside of the odd one who just full out come over to our side, those Rs who have flaked off as identifying as Rs are still going to vote R 99.9% of the time because any D is a baby killing god hating commie socialist flag burning POS.


Yeehah

(6,567 posts)
21. That's the real problem
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:59 PM
Aug 2020

There cannot be a good outcome in a nation full of gullible imbeciles. Proper education is the only answer, but that is a very long-term solution. All the typical republican voter needs is Fox "News" telling them who to hate and propping up their insane world view.

Cosmocat

(15,442 posts)
22. Yep
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:13 PM
Aug 2020

I am very skeptical this works out.

Joe and Kamala might win, but we had BHO and Joe for 8 years and lost ground because they are that detached from reality and hateful.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. 45 accomplished ONE thing: he stripped away the facade of the GOP to reveal their true nature.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

And that is everything— EVERYTHING— that the Republican Party stands for supports maintaining and expanding white supremacy.

farmbo

(3,153 posts)
15. This is what the 2010 cycle of GOP Gerrymandering has done to this country
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 06:05 PM
Aug 2020

Partisan Gerrymandering— not Trump—made Trumpism possible.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
18. At some point, big Republican donors will stop donating money
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

They won't donate to nutbags with no real power in congress or the White House.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Trump's GOP will win only blood red districts or truly backward states.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:49 PM
Aug 2020

Everywhere else they are losing ground. Trumpists will get nominated by a smaller and smaller group of people, and if we can avoid shooting ourselves in the foot, the person that we nominate will win, except in hopelessly red places.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
20. Politico is totally wrong. In 1972 sources said that the Democratic Party was dead.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

McGovern had destroyed our party, just like they are saying Trump is destroying the Republican Party..

.....Well.........guess what?...Who was elected just 4 years later, in the very next Presidential Election?

...................YES..A DEMOCRAT NAMED JIMMY CARTER.....IS THAT CORRECT???...AND
.............................REMEMBER?.....................................................................

...The Republican Party will not be destroyed. New and other leaders will take the lead, just like we did.
And the Republican Party has more money than we did...And the new leaders will blame Trump for the
disaster....

...The Political story is totally wrong, and whoever wrote it is as stupid as Donald Trump..That fu**er, who wrote this .......doesn't have a clue......says Stu..

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