What the f***k?????? Pelosi endorses Kennedy over Markey. What the f*****k??????

[LAS14]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/20/metro/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-endorses-joe-kennedy-race-against-ed-markey/?s_campaign=8315

Does anyone know what's going on behind the scenes?????

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[hlthe2b]

1. I don't get that entire primary race, frankly.

[Cartaphelius]

2. We are talking about

what, Connecticut, or some place near there and we are talking about a
Kennedy.

What don 't you get?

[wryter2000]

5. Mass

Kennedy is going after Ed Markey's seat. it sucks.

[mdelaguna]

36. LOL

[wryter2000]

3. I don't know

But I don't like anything about this at all. There's no reason to go after Ed Markey. This has the potential to damage both candidates and deliver the seat to a Republican in a year when we have a chance to win the Senate. And we absolutely must win the Senate to save the country.

But if we have to do this idiocy, I don't know why any Dem should take one side or the other.

[Demsrule86]

7. What about the most recent house races in New York...where a couple of long term incumbents

lost. I think it is a waste. I really don't care who wins as I like both of them and can't vote in Massachusetts but I would bet that the Kennedy wins.

[wryter2000]

9. There are only 100 Senators

And they approve SCOTUS Justices. I worry less about a few seats in the House. We have a good majority now.

I imagine the Dem will win because this is Mass, but Scott Brown did win. It's not a sure thing. If we win four seats from the Rs (assuming Jones loses in AL), we have a majority with Kamala Harris breaking a tie. We have a chance, but it's so incredibly close.

I agree with you that it's a waste, but it's a bigger loss in the Senate than in the House.

[question everything]

10. Did Pelosi take a stand on any of these races?

[Demsrule86]

26. He is one of hers...in the House. I hear that is why she endorsed.

[sheshe2]

13. He, Kennedy, gave up his congressional seat.

There are 8 Dems running. One who is in the top four switched party affiliations, Dem To GOP to work on electing Baker- R as Governor. I hope my bright blue district does not vote for him to represent us.

I live here and am upset that in these times he decided to primary a good solid Senator and leave my district vulnerable.

PS, I voted for both of them in the last election. I will be voting for Markey in this one.

[Laelth]

18. Well done, She.

Thank you.



-Laelth

[sheshe2]

20. Thanks, Laelth.

May the voting begin.

[Budi]

32. There was no reason to 'go after' Rep Eliot Engel either. But...oh well

Go figure!

[smirkymonkey]

34. Actually, Markey is ahead right now, but barely.

Kennedy really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way by trying to primary Markey.

[DFW]

22. Write to Elliott Engle and ask him

He was younger than Markey, and his liberal credentials were nothing to be ashamed of, but the same people backing Markey applauded Engle's challenger. I'm sure they can explain the difference.

I'm not a Markey fan, but I agree that he was/is doing a decent job as Senator, and his response to Pelosi's endorsement was indeed pure class. Pelosi was endorsing her fellow House member. It happens. As long as the Democratic nominee wins the seat, and it stays safely in our hands, I'm OK with the outcome. I think I would have done things differently in Kennedy's shoes, but I'm not in them, so it's not for me to say.

There aren't two standards. If what happened to Engle was OK, then what's happening to Markey is OK. If Bowman's challenge to Engle was NOT OK, then Kenndy's challenge to Markey is also not OK.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

24. The people ok with the Engle primary didn't institute a policy to blacklist anyone working ...

... on a primary challenger’s campaign.

[Demsrule86]

28. That is in the House...this is a Senate race...different animal. If you primary than you have

be willing to have one of your primaryed.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

46. Take it up with the people whining about Engle. I didn't insert him in this conversation

[Budi]

33. Who blacklisted who?

Kennedy has every right to run for whatever seat in his State he wants to.

He had his reasons & they lie with positioning himself for the future. He's a young man with a stellar record on human & civil rights, he's bright (studied under Liz Warren's class/Harvard) & I hope he succeeds at his future goals.

There is not a daming thing about Joe Kennedy #3
Nothing.

[demmiblue]

4. The hell if I know.

[Demsrule86]

6. Kennedy is in the House...so what?

It will remain in our hands. Personally I am against primarying sitting Democrats, but there are some high profile races where that happened just this year.

[still_one]

8. I agree, unless there is a very good reason

[unblock]

11. he's in the house now, but he's trying to take markey's senate seat.

the concern isn't the house, it's the senate. part of it is whether we lose a good progressive (markey) and part of the concern is the battle risks handing the seat to the republicans.

[Demsrule86]

29. Engle was a good progressive...sorry I don't get the difference.

Both Kennedy and Markey are fine.

[Budi]

35. Geezus. Joe Kennedy's record is straight up more progressive than Markey's by about a couple feet.

He cosigned the GND with Markey & Eliot Engel.

Don't even start damning his record.
He is Progressive. Unless they changed the qualifications lately.

[unblock]

43. i haven't taken a side on this one, i haven't compared them.

[JI7]

38. Markey is a liberal like Kennedy

[sheshe2]

14. See my post above.

[Crunchy Frog]

12. From what I've been reading on here,

it seems to be about sticking it to AOC or something like that.

[Demsrule86]

30. That is not true and you should not attack Nancy. She works with Kennedy and likes him...so

what is the issue?

[Crunchy Frog]

39. I'm not attacking anyone. This is literally what I've picked up

from reading various threads here. Take it up with them.

[Demsrule86]

40. Nancy works with Kennedy in the House...why shouldn't she support him.

[Crunchy Frog]

42. Some posters here have suggested that it could potentially

put a Senate seat at risk. Others have said that she worked with Markey for years too.

At any rate, I'm finished discussing it.

[Budi]

37. Wtf. Not everything revolves around AOC. This is about positioning himself for his future.

House to Senate is a rather progressive move for one's future.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. I never said that it did.

This is just what I've picked up from other posters from reading various threads. I didn't even say that it was my own opinion.

[Demsrule86]

44. She is unlikely to win a statewide race in New York...look at Gillibrand, she came out of

the Buffalo area and was pretty moderate when she first ran. But time will tell. AOC is just starting out. I think she will do well in the end.

[Laelth]

15. From what I can tell ...

Pelosi is backing a traditional, moderate Democrat (Kennedy) over the 4th most liberal Senator we have (Markey). Why she is doing this, I don’t know, but people have speculated that she wants a younger party, and Kennedy is definitely younger than Markey.

I asked about the backstory on this puzzling development in another thread earlier today, and nobody had any reason to believe that Pelosi had it out for Markey for some personal reason. Nobody provided any relevant backstory.

I don’t know what this is about.



-Laelth

[Demsrule86]

31. He is one of hers...in her caucus...of course she endorses Kennedy.

[ismnotwasm]

16. C'mon you guys

You all know the difference between the Senate and House races, as well as who is a member of Pelosi’s own caucus. Of course she’s going to endorse Kennedy

[question everything]

17. Just donated to the Markey campaign

[sheshe2]

21. Thank You!

[Wanderlust988]

19. As a BLM activist, I support Kennedy

He gets what's going on in this country in terms of civil rights, social justice, and equality. He is the future. Markey is a progressive, but he's not been near as vocal regarding issues like this that are of most concern to people like me. Yeah he's for the Green New Deal and that's fine and dandy, but I'm more concerned with getting shot while driving to Wal-Mart to get some groceries tonight. And Pelosi gets it too. Markey may be someone that's been in office for way too long.

[DFW]

23. Uh-oh. Watch it with the "been in office way too long."

Some who are strong supporters of Markey used EXACTLY that phrase to celebrate when Jamaal Bowman unseated progressive Elliott Engle in his primary race to keep his House seat recently.

[stillcool]

25. I voted for him too...

Markey was never my Congressman, and as a Senator he's fine, but he's not going to be setting the world on fire. I want to vote for someone who can, and will, if given the chance.

[JI7]

27. You act like she is endorsing someone like Tim Canova

[Budi]

45. 🥂 👍

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