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progressive nobody

(816 posts)
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 05:44 PM Aug 2020

Washington Postal Workers Defy USPS Orders And Reinstall Mail Sorting Machines

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/22/washington-postal-workers-defy-usps-orders-and-reinstall-mail-sorting-machines/#273e4f215f80


Postal workers in Washington State have reinstalled high-speed mail sorting machines—dismantled after controversial orders from the U.S. Postal Service— despite USPS orders not to put machines back in use.

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I hope a lot more locations follow Washington State lead.
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Washington Postal Workers Defy USPS Orders And Reinstall Mail Sorting Machines (Original Post) progressive nobody Aug 2020 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #1
Sweet Mutiny! Fuck DeJoy, Fuck Trump, Fuck McConnell, Fuck Mnuchin... Blue Owl Aug 2020 #2
How were you able to read what was in my head?? AZ8theist Aug 2020 #75
Well done WA USPS. Next? NT okaawhatever Aug 2020 #3
All of the locations that can locate where the machines are should replug them and get them running onetexan Aug 2020 #18
Exactly. NT okaawhatever Aug 2020 #20
DeJoy can fire them for disobeying instructions. LiberalArkie Aug 2020 #31
The employees need to appeal to their representative, senator & ACLU onetexan Aug 2020 #35
They're union - can't be terminated w/o due process Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #49
This would make the unions stronger too. lunatica Aug 2020 #55
Not so fast! Consider that a union's primary weapon is a strike, which would help DeJoy & Trump. Towlie Aug 2020 #77
Screw Dejoy LPBBEAR Aug 2020 #59
No they shouldn't walk off. They should keep up with Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #70
the USPS retirees need to be picketing too nt yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #76
'zactly! I cannot wait for Katie Porter to have her way with this POS on Monday. OMGWTF Aug 2020 #40
Start a petition to the Postal Unions to follow Congressional Vote and Reinstall Sorting Machines ! Captain Zero Aug 2020 #65
Resistance! Lars39 Aug 2020 #4
They tried, in Dallas I think, but critical parts were not to be found. Pelosi pointed out that Karadeniz Aug 2020 #5
DeJoy is not dictator I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2020 #6
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Aug 2020 #7
YAY . . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #8
Isn't that clear and convincing evidence that those machines are needed? LisaL Aug 2020 #9
How would removing high-speed sorters have purportedly improved mail service? Beartracks Aug 2020 #11
Here is an explanation... reACTIONary Aug 2020 #33
I might have bought into that argument a year ago.... Thomas Hurt Aug 2020 #37
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Aug 2020 #56
And let us not forget Christmas. niyad Aug 2020 #45
Won't somebody please think of the children!?! OMGWTF Aug 2020 #57
Not buying it droidamus2 Aug 2020 #58
NONE of this was an accident................. MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #10
Agree, House needs to subpoena Mnuchin as well. onetexan Aug 2020 #19
Kudos to Washington postal workers, and all postal workers Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #12
We the people! Larissa Aug 2020 #13
Thank you!! Pepsidog Aug 2020 #14
Even in very Red Wenatchee... The empressof all Aug 2020 #15
they stood up for democracy!!!!!! demigoddess Aug 2020 #16
K&R! gademocrat7 Aug 2020 #17
A new edition of "Profiles in Courage" DFW Aug 2020 #21
That may be difficult to do in some areas. The sorting machines in Grand Rapids, MI were catbyte Aug 2020 #22
OMG progressive nobody Aug 2020 #24
Maybe they can provide parts for incomplete machines. NCjack Aug 2020 #29
K&R BlueJac Aug 2020 #23
Most excellent. So happy to live in WA. Our voting is all done by mail. I'm sure they felt they KewlKat Aug 2020 #25
Postal employees take an oath. pwb Aug 2020 #26
Soo HAPPY! bluestarone Aug 2020 #27
I was sure that somebody would. soldierant Aug 2020 #28
These thugs are basically trying to steal our votes. Everyone of them who aided and abetted in SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #30
Whoa.. I hope they don't get Fired! Good on them! Cha Aug 2020 #32
Disobey all illegal orders. warmfeet Aug 2020 #34
Trump always double downs -- all hell will probably break loose Sunday. His goons NCjack Aug 2020 #36
Hmm, militia types will bring guns louis-t Aug 2020 #39
That would be too far for McConnell. NCjack Aug 2020 #41
yay!! IT JUST MIGHT BE THE POSTAL WORKERS who save this Nation .. yuiyoshida Aug 2020 #38
YAY!!! AmyStrange Aug 2020 #42
A Wonderful Example of Direct Action! McKim Aug 2020 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author McKim Aug 2020 #44
DEFY * * * I love that word! liberalla Aug 2020 #46
Thank you, Washington postal workers! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #47
Common Sense marieo1 Aug 2020 #48
Good. ellie Aug 2020 #50
Is there anything legal-wise that can be done about this shit?? oldsoftie Aug 2020 #51
Good for them Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #52
Go, Washington! Great governor and Americans that don't have to take no shit! ancianita Aug 2020 #53
I love this action SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!! Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #54
GREAT! SOMEONE IN WASHINGTON HAS BALLS. It ain't a GOP member in the Senate, WH & DOJ. usaf-vet Aug 2020 #60
Yes!! Yes!! Yes!! h2ebits Aug 2020 #61
Um, fuck yea! theaocp Aug 2020 #62
This is excellent news, but we need this to happen in the rest of the country as well. GOPBasher Aug 2020 #63
Wawawawa! Wawannabe Aug 2020 #64
k&R BlueJac Aug 2020 #66
Excellent! augyboston Aug 2020 #67
Management has power until they don't bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #68
Beautiful! Mike 03 Aug 2020 #69
Would be very bad optics if Dejoy tries to fight back on this. Amaryllis Aug 2020 #71
Nice Work! Solidarity!! Tommymac Aug 2020 #72
They are American heroes defending our democracy. StarryNite Aug 2020 #73
......Another Reason to.... titanicdave Aug 2020 #74
I have never been more proud A Morpheus Felinae Aug 2020 #78

Blue Owl

(50,362 posts)
2. Sweet Mutiny! Fuck DeJoy, Fuck Trump, Fuck McConnell, Fuck Mnuchin...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 05:46 PM
Aug 2020

...and any other cheating repukes responsible for this latest USPS stunt. Fuck 'em all to hell.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
75. How were you able to read what was in my head??
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:30 PM
Aug 2020

Your sentiment was EXACTLY THE SAME as mine.
(But I thought it first 😉!!!)
Just kidding.
Well said!!

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
18. All of the locations that can locate where the machines are should replug them and get them running
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Aug 2020

Cat's out of the bag now. Dejoy cannot prohibit them at this point. He needs to be removed and i believe after the House hearing on Monday he will be forced to resign and face mail & election tampering charges. This is extremely serious and Dems Congressional men & women must take their gloves off & get this stopped ASAP. No more nice guy hearings. We're dealing with thugs & crooks here.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
35. The employees need to appeal to their representative, senator & ACLU
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:25 PM
Aug 2020

and get a class action lawsuit together for unlawful actions by Dejail. I'm sure the thought that they may be fired has crossed their minds if they defied his orders.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
49. They're union - can't be terminated w/o due process
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

If you’ve ever worked in a union shop, Due process can be quite time consuming...

LPBBEAR

(295 posts)
59. Screw Dejoy
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:42 PM
Aug 2020

If he tries to retaliate the entire postal service should walk off the job and shut it all down until he pulls his head out of Trumps ass.

Lucky Luciano

(11,255 posts)
70. No they shouldn't walk off. They should keep up with
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020

...the anti-striking! By getting the sorters back online, they would be doing their jobs 100x more productively! They should go on anti-strike in absolute defiance of these thugs just like the Washington based employees did!

“Stop putting those sorters back online!”

“Make me.”

Imagine they brought in cops to arrest postal employees trying to fix the sorters and go their jobs more efficiently. Drag them away trying to do their job in public. That would be fun!

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
65. Start a petition to the Postal Unions to follow Congressional Vote and Reinstall Sorting Machines !
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:16 AM
Aug 2020

We could. An online petition to all the postal unions and locals to follow the vote in the House of Representative and reinstall the automated sorting machines.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
5. They tried, in Dallas I think, but critical parts were not to be found. Pelosi pointed out that
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 05:50 PM
Aug 2020

Those tactics present possible OSHA problems.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
11. How would removing high-speed sorters have purportedly improved mail service?
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 06:02 PM
Aug 2020

DeJoy is bullshitting for his boy Trump.

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reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
33. Here is an explanation...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:16 PM
Aug 2020

... of the rational from the Washington Post, along with some pros and cons.

Basically, the volume of mail that can be sorted by machine is going down, while the volume that can't (packages and flats) is going up. The machines seem to be under utilized, while the space they occupy is needed for processing packages.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/20/postal-service-mail-sorters-removals/

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
37. I might have bought into that argument a year ago....
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:38 PM
Aug 2020

but a few months before the elections that we all know are going to be mail in ballot heavy, the Pig installs a lackey and starts tearing stuff out.....complete and utter bullshit.

At best they were removed to avoid them being brought on line in a crunch.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
56. THIS! THIS! THIS!
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:09 PM
Aug 2020

Traitor Tot knows he's going down and when he does, he's no longer immune to his many, many crimes.

droidamus2

(1,699 posts)
58. Not buying it
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:35 PM
Aug 2020

Why the rush to get the machines out and then destroying them as soon as possible especially with the high probability of a universal vote by mail presidential election. If they were no longer needed they could have been pulled but left near their sorting center in case they were needed for the election. Its just like with removing the mail boxes in certain places. Why the big hurry even if they are being underutilized it doesn't hurt anything to leave them in place until after the election. Here's hoping that more centers ignore DeJoy and reinstall the machines. Somebody should be contacting the manufacturer to see if any missing parts can be acquired.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
16. they stood up for democracy!!!!!!
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

thank you guys.

PS our mail lady often waves at our handicapped daughter when she goes by. We appreciate that and her.

catbyte

(34,384 posts)
22. That may be difficult to do in some areas. The sorting machines in Grand Rapids, MI were
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 06:38 PM
Aug 2020

practically vandalized--cords cut, machinery ripped apart. It was a goddamned disaster.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
25. Most excellent. So happy to live in WA. Our voting is all done by mail. I'm sure they felt they
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 06:50 PM
Aug 2020

needed them.

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
30. These thugs are basically trying to steal our votes. Everyone of them who aided and abetted in
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:10 PM
Aug 2020

these crimes should be charged w/ voter fraud. In short, this is what it is.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
34. Disobey all illegal orders.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

Fuck these authoritarians. They think we are withering snowflakes, let's show them otherwise.

They will whine and complain, proving that they are the snowflakes. They do not handle adversity well. I know from personal experience.

Counter their wishes at every turn and they will implode.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
36. Trump always double downs -- all hell will probably break loose Sunday. His goons
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:26 PM
Aug 2020

may attack the Post Offices.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
38. yay!! IT JUST MIGHT BE THE POSTAL WORKERS who save this Nation ..
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:41 PM
Aug 2020

I have tweeted this ..awesome news. RISE UP , REVOLT!! AND BE IN GOOD TROUBLE

McKim

(2,412 posts)
43. A Wonderful Example of Direct Action!
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:01 PM
Aug 2020

They simply acted and directly intervened in this scheme to destroy the election process!!!! This what we call Direct Action!

Response to progressive nobody (Original post)

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
48. Common Sense
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:23 PM
Aug 2020

Glad, I'm glad someone in the good ole USA has some common sense. Thank you Washington USPS.....

GOPBasher

(7,403 posts)
63. This is excellent news, but we need this to happen in the rest of the country as well.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
Aug 2020

We need this to make sure the USPS is equipped to handle this election in the other 49 states and DC as well. We'll win this election up and down the ballots, but only if we ensure a fair one (or as close as we can come to a fair one).

augyboston

(193 posts)
67. Excellent!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 09:48 AM
Aug 2020

That is excellent!

tRump and his corrupt cronies are depending on the populace going along and these scumbags really have very little power if "We The People" stand up and say NO, you're not going to do that!

A hundred sheep are only controlled by the collie because they allow it.

DON'T BE SHEEP PEOPLE!

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
68. Management has power until they don't
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:20 AM
Aug 2020

Then they face disruption or shutting down. Lots of things depend on workers doing their jobs and getting results. Management is often unaware of details. If they make workers' lives difficult, they can find an understaffed, uncooperative workforce.

Organizational psychology. It's not all symbiosis.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
74. ......Another Reason to....
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:13 PM
Aug 2020

.....be proud to be a union retiree and a Washington State resident......the is even better ...(apologies to the late John Lewis)...than good trouble.......this is ....EXCELLENT...TROUBLE !!!!

78. I have never been more proud
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:18 PM
Aug 2020

to be a resident of Washington State. This gives me hope. Now, step up California. I want to see my home state do the same thing. Between the West Coast and other proud, BLUE STATES we can beat these MF'ers at their own game.

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