..."those were Jackie Kennedy's crab apple trees"

[Me.]

Americans recoiled in horror after First Lady Melania Trump took to Twitter on Saturday to unveil the newly renovated Rose Garden Saturday ahead of her speech there Tuesday for the Republican National Convention.

Twitter users blasted the first lady for removing about a dozen crabapple trees from the Rose Garden planted by Jackie Kennedy in 1961.

https://thegailygrind.com/2020/08/22/americans-recoil-in-horror-after-melania-rips-trees-planted-by-jfk-out-of-white-house-rose-garden/

[Maraya1969]

1. Besides, you don't cut down trees! You can move them or if there is a problem and you have to cut

them down but you don't cut down damn trees!

So typically destructive of this administration.

[Laelth]

7. I think they were moved to another part of the White House grounds. n/t

-Laelth

[Maraya1969]

10. Well that is a relief.

[Laelth]

11. It was still insensitive and unnecessary.

I hope the trees survive the transplant.

-Laelth

[lostnfound]

13. Seriously??? You can move 60 year old trees successfully?? I doubt it. Nt

[Chainfire]

18. Yes, you can do that.

I watched the process of some 150 year old (Huge) live oak trees being moved where I used to work. It is an expensive process, but there are people who specialize in it, and it is generally, although not always, successful. Crab Apples aren't that big, it shouldn't be a problem.

[LisaL]

20. Not always is right.

I see newly replanted trees that don't make it all the time.

[LisaL]

19. I doubt it as well.

Trees that old are presumably going to be hard to replant.

[honest.abe]

32. Its possible but difficult and not always successful.

The key is to cut the roots in perimeter around the tree then let the tree sit and recover for a few days before the actual move. Then once moved keeping the soil moist until the tree is able to grow enough new roots to survive.

Still its horrific what Melania did. Its like gutting the China room in the White House and putting in a rec room.

[jaxexpat]

81. It is safe to move crab apple trees provided the move is sideways.

[Codeine]

101. . . .

[ZZenith]

123. Chortle!

[OnlinePoker]

69. They were getting towards the end of their lifespan so should have been left in place

Flowering crab apples start declining at about 40 years and getting to 70 is rare. I'd be surprised if they survive the transplant at this late stage.

[former9thward]

114. So if a tree is at the end of its lifespan it should be allowed to die "naturally"???

What rule is that???

[OnlinePoker]

119. In nature they do but, of course, a rose garden is a long way from nature.

With these trees, moving them made no sense. But if arborists determined they were at their end of life and they were taken out, I would have no problem. If this was just done on the whim of Skeletor, I would be as pissed as others here on the board.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

130. Oh, yes.

Here in Santa Fe an 80 year old Sequoia was relocated just last year.

[Me.]

15. Do You Know THat For A Fact?

[Laelth]

17. Nope. Haven't been there. Haven't seen it.

I read that from a link to a news article from here, somewhere, today.



-Laelth

[July]

23. Why do you think that?

Have you read it somwhere?

If so, we could use a link.

[Laelth]

24. I will go look. It was a couple of hours ago. n/t

Here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-rose-garden-melania-trump-changes-republican-national-convention-speech/

-Laelth

[Marcuse]

41. She doesn't want four more years. She may plagiarize Michele Obama's convention speech.

First lady Melania Trump will deliver her Republican National Convention speech Tuesday night from the garden, famous for its close proximity to the Oval Office.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

44. They say this, and I hope it's true, but it seems more in line with Rs to

bag everything they removed in plastic and dump it.

[Me.]

55. Will Be

Sorry but not trusting this will be so. It's out of sight out of mind with these people.

[Raine]

67. Thanks for posting that link. nt

[Laelth]

70. You're welcome. n/t

-Laelth

[rustysgurl]

71. Hopefully ...

... they did a better job of relocating these trees than they did of removing and "reallocating" the high speed mail sorters.

[iluvtennis]

56. ++ agree. you don't cut down trees. nt

[DownriverDem]

68. Notice the sidewalk?

I saw where it's because of Melania's wearing of high heels. She won't sink in now.

[fwvinson]

79. Send her fucking ass back to Russia

[Laelth]

84. I think it's Romania. n/t

-Laelth

[sprinkleeninow]

88. Slovenia. They may not want her dupa back there tho.

[Laelth]

92. Yes. Right. Slovenia. Thanks.

I bet they would take her back (but only after she gets her big divorce settlement).

-Laelth

[sprinkleeninow]

95. You may be onto sumpthin'.

Crazy Eddie, [stereos, etc. NYC]:

"Money talks, nobody walks!!"

🤣

[Me.]

113. OMG...Crazy Eddie!

His prices were insane!

[sprinkleeninow]

120. Insane prices! Today only! Free stereo! (We used to say that in reply to whatever.) 😝

[Me.]

121. ...

[SophieJean]

90. Slovenia

She's from Slovenia.

[Laelth]

91. That's it! Thanks. n/t

-Laelth

[Illumination]

96. That's a great idea! She'll fit right in there, since her father was a communist...

Everything around her & the other "thing" in the W.H. turns to sh**! Hope the W.H. house is fumigated when they get their sorry as*** OUT! They'll need to spray for bed bugs, golden showers, diseases, you name it & an exorcism!...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Looks like Jill Biden will have another project to work on next Spring.

[IronLionZion]

40. Jill Biden probably has bigger problems to deal with first

but eventually a Dem can make the garden colorful again. Maybe Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff can work on the garden.

[snowybirdie]

64. How anout

Doug pitching in. Good job for for a Second Gentleman.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

65. All they really need is a whole bunch of tulip bulbs

to start with. Then replant the trees and tear up all that damn concrete.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

3. I hope they moved them instead of cutting them down.

[Laelth]

8. I think that they did. Read that somewhere today. n/t

-Laelth

[Afromania]

4. You know, the trumps have done alot of awful shit. ALOT of awful shit.

This just seems to be pointlessly petty and messed up to me for some reason. Everybody left those trees alone for almost 60 years. Now, with 2 months left before trump is tossed out she goes and uproots the these trees ("which will be planted elsewhere" yea right).

Granted, I didn't know about the trees before this, but mostly nobody did and didn't have to. The inhabitants of the White House knew better than to be quite horrible enough to pull them up. A good number of them were/are plenty horrible on their own merits.

[Frustratedlady]

12. Didn't she take out Michelle Obama's garden, as well?

I thought she put in a tennis court, or some such.

[Afromania]

16. Yea, I believe that was done as well. The list of what they have done is exasperatingly long.

When this is over we'll probably be sort the wreckage out for the next decade.

[Mosby]

38. They replaced Obamas basketball court

with a tennis court.

[Illumination]

106. They can't help it. They're just a couple of a**holes!

[spanone]

5. i doubt the third lady knew who Jackie Kennedy was....

[lostnfound]

14. Probably orders from Vlad to destroy whatever is beautiful and meaningful at White House.

Or, perhaps trump will have goose stepping nazis marching around the rectangle this week.
Or he is making a place for firing squads.

Would it surprise anyone?

[Vdizzle]

78. They made it look like a cemetery.

To symbolize the death of democracy and decency in America.

[dixiechiken1]

6. Everything Trump touches dies...

ANY Trump.

It's called the Rose Garden and it's now completely devoid of color, of joy, of life. Gawd I truly hate these people.

[dubyadiprecession]

9. Melania doesn't have a clue...

Joe will have quite a bit of “undoing” when he gets in the Whitehouse.

[ailsagirl]

29. She's as deranged as he is

[stopbush]

21. Why are they changing anything when they'll be leaving the WH

in 5 months?

[Cha]

22. I appreciate that "twitter blasted her" for desecrating

our Rose Garden.

I looks like a mausoleum.

Link to tweet

Mahalo, Me..

[UpInArms]

36. It looks like a funeral home

And has a cemetery out front.

[Cha]

42. Yes it does.. melania managed to get the WH looking like

a cemetery. she must be so proud of her vapid self.

Link to tweet

[UpInArms]

77. It is what it is ...

[Illumination]

105. Oh my goodness! You're right! Remember how she decorates @ Christmas? Looks like creepy

town!

[JudyM]

107. Not far from her hall of red Xmas trees. Just weirdly artificial looking.

[GB_RN]

51. "It looks cold and sterile and joyless"

Based on her reactions to Dolt and how she isolates herself away from him, it sounds like an apt description for what I imagine her marriage to the Vulgar Talking Yam is like.

[pazzyanne]

76. Very reminiscent of her Christmas Decorations in the White House the first year. nt

[msongs]

25. one suspects there are still crabs in the rose garden from day to day nt

[IronLionZion]

45. There may be crabs in the presidential bedroom

[Cha]

26. they spent millions to make the white house look like a hampton inn on a turnpike?

Link to tweet

[CapnSteve]

43. Is it just me, or did she move the garden...

...from colorful to white? Melanoma, your white supremacy is showing!

[Cha]

54. It's not just you.. several comments noting

the "white supremisty" look of the previous beautiful Rose Garden.

[Me.]

112. Perfect Description

[Cha]

118. Thanks for the confirmation..

I had no idea what a Hampton Inn looks like.. but I guess now I do.

to you, Me!

[smirkymonkey]

27. I'm sorry, but she is nothing but a cheap, Slovenian whore.

She does not deserve the title of First Lady and the nerve of her to undo the legacy of beautiful, accomplished First Ladies who have gone before her is just appalling.

Do not get on my ass for calling her what she is. You all know it's true.

[plimsoll]

31. Don't denigrate sex workers.

[smirkymonkey]

49. I'm not denigrating sex workers. Just her.

There is more than one definition for the word "whore". People sell themselves for a number of reasons. Only one of them is for sex. This woman sold her soul.

[Me.]

58. If THey Are Going To Cast Aspersions On Senator Harris

1. They deserve what they get

2. Truth hurts especially with this birther.

[smirkymonkey]

61. Exactly!

They don't get a pass from us. Besides, they are all just projecting what they believe about their own anyway.

[plimsoll]

85. OK,

But if she sold her soul, that would constitute fraud wouldn't it?

[smirkymonkey]

104. You have a point.

[sprinkleeninow]

93. Whoring is also in thee bible. They should know being so theologically knowledgeable.

[Illumination]

98. Ditto!

[bucolic_frolic]

28. Is there anything these Nazis haven't ruined? /nt

[xxqqqzme]

30. What? No speech from her

new tennis pavilion.

[badhair77]

50. Are there photos of anyone actually playing tennis there or using that pavilion?

[xxqqqzme]

143. I've never seen any

pictures. Given her preference for 3 inch spiked heels I doubt we ever will see any.

I wonder why all the color was removed from the 'rose' garden to be replaced by only all white flowers?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. Worse than her "Nightmare before Christmas" display

[Cha]

48. & that's saying something. Now she has our WH looking

like a cemetery.

Link to tweet

[Me.]

62. The Two Of Them Together Complete The Notion Of A Loathsome Couple

Look at the decor in Trump Tower. Every time I see it it reminds me of Roma furniture, a store of questionable taste that used to be in downtown Manhattan.

[Cha]

66. trump & worst lady have atrocious taste.. him & his gaudy towers..

a her & her "white fupremisty" mausoleum and Maggot colored Christmas trees.

Link to tweet

[backscatter712]

72. The White House looks like a mausoleum.

[Illumination]

116. They ARE a "Nightmare before Christmas" right now!

[yuiyoshida]

34. K AND R and

Tweeted.

[pansypoo53219]

35. the crab apple trees probably getting to big, but not to replace them w/ TREES. trees are so common.

i tried to fix too, but what not do it!!!

[IronLionZion]

37. Melania hates color

which might be a metaphor for something else, like diversity. But considering her taste in decorating for Christmas she really hates colors.

The garden looked much better before she "fixed" it to look more conservative. Conservatives live a boring miserable life.

[Laelth]

97. Quite true.

Presumably all the new roses are either white or pastels (light, milky, nearly-white colors) which she prefers. Sounds, to me, like self-loathing regarding her own, darkish skin tone.



-Laelth

[FakeNoose]

131. She knows she'll be gone before next Spring

She has to do as much damage as she can right NOW.

[Me.]

146. They All Do

And since she lied on her immigration papers, we should ship she and her chain migration family right back to where they came from

[FakeNoose]

147. I believe she'll want to go back

... once the divorce is final and the settlement check has cleared.

[Me.]

148. Would She Be Able To Take Her Son?

He's the only person she cares for and I can't imagine the family won't fight like hell to keep him here.

[lpbk2713]

39. I'll be glad when it's January.

That whole family literally nauseates me.

I can't take much more.

[badhair77]

46. And it seems she redesigned the Rose Garden as a setting for

her convention speech. They do indeed pee on everything they see.

[WVreaper]

47. oops!

[Totally Tunsie]

52. The re-do is as bland and uninteresting as she is.

Why do they need to destroy all that came before them? They've moved classic portraits and relegated them to back rooms, eliminated Michelle O's wonderful vegetable garden, and now this.

How very sad to reverse contributions by former First Ladies that should stand with history.

[Evolve Dammit]

53. Just highlights the TOTAL lack of anything except herself. Why they were drawn to each other.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

57. To Hell with all Rs, and aesthetically this appears to be paving paradise to put up a parking lot,

but this WaPo story discussing the history of the Rose Garden and some of the rationale behind the redo sheds some light.

The piece is is too generous to the current wife of the wannabe dictator, but about the removal of the crab apples, it contains two sentences, which I've bolded, that speak to the unnecessary loss:

It is evident that once the Rose Garden is renovated, it will have a different feel to it, with some 200 rose bushes planted in pastel colors. The garden will feel more open and sunnier but perhaps less interesting. It will feel the loss of the crab apple trees, which are full of effervescent blossom in April, decorative fruit in September and a sculptural quality in the winter. They served as a reminder of Washington’s seasonality, and the preciousness of time.

[NurseJackie]

59. She hates Jackie Kennedy.

She knows that she can never compare to her. Melanie is cheap and tacky.

[LizBeth]

60. I was wondering about the missing trees. Dont kill the trees!!! Oh my that they were O's.

[Botany]

63. They were too small to be have planted by Jackie.

But still they along with the yew bushes provided a neat part of a sun / shadow look along the colonnade.

As near as I can tell they planted crap.

They also removed some nice roses too.

BTW. Jackie Kennedy had some really good people who helped in the design and installation of "her rose garden."

BTW I'm a professional @ this stuff and this stunt will loose even more votes for Trump.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

122. Botany, what do you think they did with the original rose bushes?

Move them, give them away as gifts or sell them on eBay for money?

This was a horrible insult to past presidents and the American people, IMO.


KY.........

[Botany]

124. I imagine most if not all of the original roses that were planted by Jackie are long gone but ....

.... some old standards might still be going but I doubt it. As per the roses that were in the
garden when Melania "renewed it" in August I doubt any of them could be saved.

The new garden is an abortion and looks like it was done by Joe's Lawn and Landscaping
Service. The secret of a good landscape is you should always have something of interest
year round and from what I could tell this work doesn't pass that test.

[druidity33]

125. Lack of color?

Everyone seems to be upset about the lack of color in the new setup... but since we're past Spring and Summer flowers, i do wonder what it will look like in Spring. Did they remove all of the tulips? Honestly that and the apple trees seem to be what most people are upset about. I'm more pissed off about the concrete path...

[roscoeroscoe]

73. They are F'ing orcs

Time for a scouring

[Laelth]

94. Time to bring out the Ents. n/t

-Laelth

[Historic NY]

80. The destroyed a cultural landscape at a National Monument...

https://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/36-cultural-landscapes.htm]

A landscape to complement the restored WH almost 60 yrs ago.

[Me.]

110. Quite

[liberalmuse]

82. It looks soulless just like it's designer.

These people are ugly and destroy everything they touch.

[Illumination]

117. Right! Where's the love? Where's the joy? They're "dead" inside!

[ellie]

83. I still can't believe

That the trumps are America's first family. What in the actual fuck?

[Laelth]

86. Foghorn Leghorn says it better than I could.

-Laelth

[sprinkleeninow]

89. 🤣

[BamaRefugee]

87. Lots of space now to bury bodies.

[oasis]

99. "Be Best"

[Illumination]

103. Right! Like "Make America Great Again"? Americans have been duped by these 2 traitors!

[Paladin]

100. Smooth move there, C-Word. (nt)

[Illumination]

102. Do you remember her jacket from Oct. 2018? "I really don't care. Do U?" So she just proved

that with Jackie Kennedy's crab apple trees! Her & that other insensitive worse half are just 2 miserable illegitimate W.H. squatters! My GOD those cock roaches have got to go! Let's get some compassion & respect for history like Joe & Jill!...

[Me.]

109. +1

[Stinky The Clown]

108. That's akin to painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa

[Illumination]

115. Yes! Also a lack of character, respect, & oozing with hatred & evil! The world will go crazy with

joy whenever we finally get rid of these 2 embarrassments!

[Kaleva]

111. As far as trees go, crab apple trees don't have a particularly long life span.

[Mossfern]

139. I have one in my back yard that's over 80 years old.

She's totally hollow - you can see right through her.
She's bent and gnarled but still gifts us with fragrant blossoms and some fruit.
She's the Queen of our garden and I love her dearly!

[Kaleva]

142. Your tree is an exceptional exception!

What I've read is that crab apple trees start to go downhill by age 40 and few make it to 70.

[Mossfern]

145. To be honest

most people would have removed her years ago. I had an arborist assess the trees on my property and he suggested that we just tend to her as a beloved pet rather than cut her down. That's what we've done. My kids ate peanut butter and crab apple jelly sandwiches.

Perhaps it's different with blossoming crab apple trees. Ours bears fruit - not so much any more though.

[Kaleva]

149. I'd start a new tree from seeds of it. To kind of carry on its legacy.

My wife and I are going to start a grove of oaks in my step-daughter's and her husband's property (they have 20 acres and the room for it). The acorns are from an old oak on our property and we'll plant one tree for each of the grandchildren. We have two started already this year and we should have 6 more started next year. I'll probably plant a few extra in case of losses.

[alterfurz]

126. Melania coordinating her Rose Garden makeover with her new COVID campaign: "Be Prepare!"

[murielm99]

127. It looks like Mordor.

[marble falls]

128. Jeebers. The nonwinter version of her 'White Christmas" ...

[Me.]

129. It Looks Like The Old B. Altman

[marble falls]

132. It makes me want to turn up the lights and the thermostat. And start painting the roses red.

[orangecrush]

133. What a horrible person

Can't be gone soon enough.

[OverBurn]

134. WTF, it looks way worse!

[colorado_ufo]

135. I revere Jackie Kennedy and truly hope the trees were moved.

I may be the one lone voice, but those trees were old (nearing end of lifespan and maybe losing some attractiveness), and they were obscuring another beautiful feature - that gorgeous collonade, of equal historic significance! Everything was rather overgrown and suffocating and now looks fresher, but the low-growing beautiful flowers should have remained.

Flowering crabapple trees often (but not always, depending on variety) produce messy small fruit, which are of limited use due to their bitter and tart flavor.

I would like to know if the trees were moved, and who did the work.

[LisaL]

150. Because they were old, even if they were moved, it's very unlikely they

are going to make it.

[colorado_ufo]

151. Hell, I'm old.

I hope I make it - gotta make it to the election!

[Layzeebeaver]

136. Time for a crowdfunding effort to support the reconstructive garden surgery

Unbelievable...

[Me.]

141. +1

[napi21]

137. SO.....the first lady really IS as much of a JA as her dumbass partner. I used to feel sorry for

for herm having to put up with him. Looks like two weeds in the garden to me!

[Me.]

140. I Never Could

as she was/is a birther from the start

[LudwigPastorius]

138. They had to go.

Those trees were in the way of the TV cameras that could capture Trump's scowling waddle back into the White House after his insane press-rants.

[area51]

144. Ah, yes, Mel & her "design" skills ...