Trump's sister bitterly criticizes him in conversations secretly recorded by her niece Mary Trump

[mobeau69]

Maryanne Trump Barry bitterly criticized her brother, President Donald Trump, saying, "Donald's out for Donald," and appeared to confirm her niece Mary Trump's previous allegations that he had a friend take his SATs to get into college, according to audio excerpts obtained by CNN.

The Washington Post first obtained the previously unreleased transcripts and audio from Mary Trump, author of a recent bombshell book about the President and one of his most outspoken critics. Mary Trump, who has said that Donald Trump is unfit to be president and has voiced support for his rival Joe Biden, revealed to the Post that she had secretly taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019.

In one of the conversations revealed by the Post, Trump's sister called him "cruel."

Among the some of the more critical comments made by Barry was commenting on how her younger 74-year-old brother operated as president. "His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God," she said, according to the recording. "I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/politics/maryanne-trump-barry-donald-trump-mary-trump/index.html

[mr_lebowski]

1. Why would you say "I'm talking too freely" if you didn't know you were being recorded?

Or didn't at least know that you're 'on the record' in some sense?

Anyways ... why did Mary wait until weeks after the book came out and she did her publicity to reveal she had these tapes?

It's really not the best 'look' to secretly tape your family and then release the tapes to the news, I gotta say. At least, unless her Aunt gave her the okay after finding out that she was taped.

[Raine]

3. I got to agree. Recording someone secretly then publicly releasing it

is bad anyway but doing it to a family member is such a betrayal of trust, really low.

[mr_lebowski]

4. I'm kinda wondering if the 'secretly taped' thing is some kind of cover story for the sister

Like, they worked out a deal in advance as to how they'd be presented ...

His sister would know that no matter WHAT she said, Trump would focus on the 'secret taping' if it were presented that way. His ire would go towards the Niece, IOW. Pretty sure Mary don't GAF. But Maryanne might.

[Skittles]

12. naw

his ire would be towards both

I think if she did secretly record her aunt, that is very low indeed.

[still_one]

5. It was done to give validity to what she said in her book. Recall when the book was released, the

WH said it was all false

This is someone confirming her book

Trump’s sister could technically bring charges against Mary Tump for recording someone without their permission, but I doubt they will do that, and bring more attention to the story then they want

[mobeau69]

9. Not sure now but it used to vary depending upon the state.

[still_one]

18. I think that is still the way it is, so it depends where it was recordy

[obamanut2012]

23. What Mary Trump did is 100% legal

So, I don't know why you and others think she can be charged with anyone. She can totally record her aunt without telling her.

[still_one]

33. It depends on the state. In California it is illegal to record a private conversation without the

other person’s permission

The two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. Cal. Penal Code § 632.

[Princess Turandot]

44. 12 states require that *all* parties to a discussion agree to its recording for it to be legal.

The other 38 plus the district and the feds only require one party to consent. That person can also be the person making the recording.

If Mary Trump was in NYS when she made the recordings, she's probably okay. If her aunt was in an all party state at the time - i.e. they could have been talking by phone - an issue could arise, but apparently the location where the recording device sits is usually the law that decides the question.

Remember the lovely Linda Tripp? She was indicted by Maryland for taping Lewinsky, because Maryland is a all party state. (The charges against Tripp were eventually dropped, because of evidence issues.)

[In It to Win It]

27. I'm thinking the niece may have recorded her aunt in preparation for the book

[ribrepin]

6. Not a good look to do this to your elderly aunt

unless the aunt gave her permission

[mr_lebowski]

7. Agreed ... unless ... see post 4 :) nt

[malaise]

31. The same aunt who colluded with her brothers to rob Mary? n/t

[JI7]

8. LOL, The fucking Trump Family Cut off Medical Payments to care for a Child in the Family

And you are outraged over this shit .

[mobeau69]

10. BINGO

[obamanut2012]

25. Seriously

And some posters saying Mary Trump broke the law doing this when she didn't -- 100% legal for her to do.

[North Shore Chicago]

28. !!!!

[Kamala4TheWin]

32. Exactly! This family doesn't deserve any sympathy

[mr_lebowski]

34. I said it's 'not the best look' ... and that translates to 'I'm outraged'?

Those are the entirely opposite ends of the spectrum as far as 'disapproval' goes.

Taping your aunt secretly for your own use, to be able to later recall for your book ... that's totally fine if state law allows it.

Releasing the tapes of your elderly aunt you secretly took w/o her permission, to the public, also w/o her permission? And without a need like you're defending yourself in a civil suit or criminal trial or to illustrate that a crime was committed, or something like that?

I'll say it again, it's not the best look. It gives your political enemies a perfect distraction, too ... 'what kind of person does ..." kind of argument.

If she ran it by Mary, told her what she did, and asked if she could let CNN hear parts of the tape however ... then I think it's fine.

[Cha]

42. Thank YOU.. I sure as hell am not "outraged" about that..

Plenty of shite Yes.. but not that.

[OnDoutside]

45. Well said. Unbelievable stuff.

[canetoad]

11. I think you're reading too much into it Mr. L

my impression is that his older sisters think he's a dick and gon't give a flying fuck who know.

[mr_lebowski]

35. If that's the case, then Mary would've confirmed with MaryAnne that it was okay to release

the tapes. Which is what I'm hoping to hear.

Not because I give a SHIT about IQ45 looking bad in this (I'm happy about that) but rather because I care how Mary is viewed.

If she did it entirely w/o Barry's permission, it's not a good look.

[malaise]

20. When you're dealing with a fucking monster

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all bets are off - the timing of the release of these tapes is absolutely perfect. You cannot destroy a monster who has long abandoned the constitution, norms, conventions, protocol and and all other niceties by taking instructions from Miss Manners.
Mary is one of them and she's playing by their rules.

Go Mary - it's by any means necessary time now.

[smirkymonkey]

21. Thank YOU, Malaise!

Completely agree with every word you have said!

[mr_lebowski]

36. If this was released to prove he committed some crime or the like?

That would be one thing.

If she betrayed her Aunt just to spread word that her Aunt really DID say have some mean things to say about Trump?

It's not a good look. It's going to be spun to make her look bad and untrustworthy.

You're handing Trump a cudgel, in fact.

I'd even say this is a bit of an 'unforced error' that's likely to accomplish the opposite of what she'd intended.

Unless MaryAnne comes out and confirms she authorized the release of the tapes.

[malaise]

37. Betrayal may be this family motto

I don't give a FF - sorry

[Cha]

43. I don't either.. please see post #8 for one reason..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13955494

:Hi:

[OnDoutside]

47. NY Law allows one party recordings, so rest easy on that one. BTW, this is the aunt who had to

retire from the bench, before the judiciary could investigate her part in the Trump Tax scam.

[OnDoutside]

46. Let's hope she has more !!! Perfect timing on the eve of the convention.

[malaise]

48. You mean the Covidention right?

[OnDoutside]

49. Hahahaha, yes !

[ansible]

2. You know someone is truly a piece of shit when even his own family hates him

And ooooh boy are they gonna hate him even more when he loses and the subpoenas come pouring in

[Sherman A1]

13. While interesting

This is not anything new to anyone paying the least bit of attention.

[mobeau69]

14. That's the sad part. He's got us all numb to his corruption. nt

[Sherman A1]

15. I don't see it as sad

I found him to be a self-entitled horse’s behind when I first heard of him in the 1980s, beyond that the particulars are irrelevant.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Recording here

Link to tweet

[dreamland]

17. Mary Trump is genius.

She knew that book would get no traction in 2016. So she waited until the American people had a chance to see the Thief-in-chief in action, as she knew he can't hide his personality long. Remember "Fire and Fury", that book came out early and nobody believed it, so as to prove her validity of her stories, she had secret recordings. Was it a despicable act? Yes, but given her history in the family, it was necessary one. Not one person stood to validate her claim to her inheritance, screwed royally but spineless, greedy trumpets. She took care to have evidence of her claims this time.

[malaise]

24. She recorded her aunt in 2018 and 2019

and then she waited for the right moment but don't forget she handed over the financial papers to expose tax fraud.
The question is how many other rich folks have operated and continue to operate just like the Trumps. Until the rule of law applies to all and these criminals are locked up under the same conditions as others, this shit will continue.

[obamanut2012]

26. Good grief, it is not a despicable act at all

I don't even think it's sketchy, but I can get why some people would think that.

[North Shore Chicago]

29. Yes, I don't

understand ANYBODY on DU saying otherwise.

[mr_lebowski]

38. I care ... because I think it can be spun to make Mary seem untrustworthy ...

Thus, undermine the tremendously useful damage she's done to Trump in some people's minds.

Taping the conversations is one thing. No big. Releasing them w/o the Aunt's knowledge, just to hear her say mean things about Trump? You're handing your enemies ammunition by doing that. I question the wisdom of it, esp. if MaryAnne gets pissed and starts blasting you all over the media.

[North Shore Chicago]

39. We'll see.

When they go low, we better punch back with equal and opposite force! I no longer care how it might look any more if we take some liberties and go beyond our usual mamby pamby pathetic spineless selves. Look, the Republicans are making anti-trump ads Democrats would never make in a million years! THIS, is a fight for our lives, and we better fight like it is.

[mr_lebowski]

40. As far as the 30,000 foot view goes in terms of it being a move by 'someone on our side'?

Yeah, I'm absolutely cool with it on that level. Let the RW assholes be afraid that crap they say might be recorded and thrown in their faces.

I'm honestly PRAYING people have been secretly recording Mango Mussolini this whole time

But if there ends up being far more discussion in the news about 'the recording' than 'what was actually said', and Mary ends up looking bad ... then I question whether it was a good move on her part in terms of her personal interests.

Morally-speaking, I feel like everyone else here ... I don't give a flying crap if Maryanne Barry is bent out of shape over it.

[North Shore Chicago]

41. ++

[Takket]

19. I bet drumpf still invites her to speak at the convention just to fill out the time slots lol

[smirkymonkey]

22. It's not like she is revealing anything new.

We all knew this about him. She is just confirming it. His cult will never be persuaded by it anyway, so I don't really think any major harm was done other than making Donny more paranoid that people close to him are going to betray him.

Which I hope they do, or at least I hope he thinks they will, because that is going to drive him completely over the edge and that's what we want to see.

[FakeNoose]

30. I love the fact that this happened to Maryanne Trump Barry

This entire family should rot in hell, with the exception of Barron and Mary Trump (the niece.) The rest of them are vile and despicable. Mary Trump should change her last name and move to another country, especially in light of what will be coming out in the media in the next few years. I know I would.