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Don Winslow Claims to have Oct Surprises: (Original Post) mucifer Aug 2020 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Aug 2020 #1
@realDonaldTrump is an Evil, Ugly, Mean-spirited man ..... he is the Anti-Christ. trueblue2007 Aug 2020 #65
Lots more to come. good. pwb Aug 2020 #2
K&R... spanone Aug 2020 #3
It could be like an Advent Calendar Leith Aug 2020 #4
Advent Calendar StarryNite Aug 2020 #7
A tiny bottle with a shot in it? Beartracks Aug 2020 #53
Winslow has been promising stuff for a long time. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #5
You are right. He could just be messing with trump's so called brain. mucifer Aug 2020 #8
If it turns out there is nothing there, PatSeg Aug 2020 #61
who is he? getagrip_already Aug 2020 #11
He's a writer... Johnyawl Aug 2020 #16
He's a fantastic crime novelist. ok_cpu Aug 2020 #18
Yeah... I have heard all this before too many times. idziak4ever1234 Aug 2020 #26
Sadly I agree: Fitzmas, Mueller Time ... central scrutinizer Aug 2020 #33
Same here Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #36
Yeah... karin_sj Aug 2020 #64
You should have been here early on in Trump's stolen election... C Moon Aug 2020 #86
Timing is everything. Oppaloopa Aug 2020 #71
ok, but is there a need to announce he has it. Why not just reveal it when he wants to ? JI7 Aug 2020 #82
No, he can't start yet. BonnieJW Aug 2020 #85
K&R! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #6
He's probably not the only one with October surprise stuff in the can. brush Aug 2020 #9
The "Lincoln Project" and RVAT are Republicans. So, Repugs ARE the only ones, apparently. Missn-Hitch Aug 2020 #12
You're leaving out Bloomberg. His ads against trump when... brush Aug 2020 #13
I hope some of Bloomberg's $$ are going to McConnell and Cornyn's opponents yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #56
What happened to that guy and all his promises? karin_sj Aug 2020 #66
I just posted he kicked in 60m last week. brush Aug 2020 #68
Fantastic! karin_sj Aug 2020 #88
Only if the current Republicans are gone... dixiechiken1 Aug 2020 #15
Oh, yes way in hell. The guys with money will let them back. Beg them, even. JHB Aug 2020 #28
I respectfully disagree. dixiechiken1 Aug 2020 #62
Let's reconvene in 2025, when several election cycles will have shown which of us is right. JHB Aug 2020 #67
Honestly, I hope we're BOTH wrong, my friend. 😉 dixiechiken1 Aug 2020 #69
The Lincoln Project guys ARE Pubs, but they've done some of the best anti DT ads of all! napi21 Aug 2020 #41
The MeidasTouch guys are AMAZING renate Aug 2020 #50
No that aren't the only ones. Being Republicans made it easier for them to attack JI7 Aug 2020 #60
Is it October yet? Cracklin Charlie Aug 2020 #10
No, is it November 4th???? PuppyBismark Aug 2020 #17
No but it's Septemberish Dream Girl Aug 2020 #23
This is 2020. It's Marchtember. JHB Aug 2020 #30
I feel like we keep getting burned by this kind of thing. Bleacher Creature Aug 2020 #14
They always believe it's much more than it actually is Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #20
If there was video of him using the N word Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #37
Truth. I was actually going to do a poll here on DU whether he will use the N word on TV during the BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #39
Hardly Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #44
Well, if I'm entitled to my opinion Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #48
The racists were already planning to vote for him anyway. The Animator Aug 2020 #55
Same here Nexus2 Aug 2020 #29
Yup. And I'm full up on nothingburgers. nilram Aug 2020 #81
Really? If you have stuff start dropping it now. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #19
Fingers crossed, cautiously hoping... Blue Owl Aug 2020 #21
October is a little on the late side. Absentee/mail-in ballots go out to voters in early October. No Vested Interest Aug 2020 #22
Good point. Need a fairly big surprise - weekly. empedocles Aug 2020 #32
Weekly would be great TexasBushwhacker Aug 2020 #51
Yes, I remember his promises/threats of upcoming revelations, and liberalla Aug 2020 #24
Why wait until October? IronLionZion Aug 2020 #25
or at lease give us ONE now Skittles Aug 2020 #80
he got the pee tape? Garion_55 Aug 2020 #27
My favorite keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #31
Is it a bit odd that both the young man, AND the First "Lady" have their left hand over their FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #74
Something about which camera you use on a smart phone. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #75
Front camera on smart phone in mirror mode. Mr. Evil Aug 2020 #76
With all the mail-in voting, maybe September would be a better plan? flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #34
Bring it! BlueJac Aug 2020 #35
I'm not worried that e has nothing. soldierant Aug 2020 #38
I usually dislike these kinds of teasers matt819 Aug 2020 #40
He's been saying that for awhile. AllyCat Aug 2020 #42
Rt & Bookmarked! TY Winslow! Cha Aug 2020 #43
I've grown weary of the tease StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #45
Well that's nice for Don Win speaknow Aug 2020 #46
WaPo and NYT did a lot of great investigative reporting before the 2016 election mucifer Aug 2020 #49
Since most Trump voters plan to vote in person, October is good timing Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #47
Don Winslow's Earlier Work DallasNE Aug 2020 #52
Concrete hard corrupt evidence is what we need... Illumination Aug 2020 #54
Not one, but more than one bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #57
Given the amount of voting by mail caraher Aug 2020 #58
i was just gonna post that! n/t orleans Aug 2020 #79
Maybe one of those maxwell tapes of trump with underage girls or boys? Miigwech Aug 2020 #59
What could he reveal that would make a difference to Republicans? Poiuyt Aug 2020 #63
I hope he has security! mfcorey1 Aug 2020 #70
Assuming he has anything it would have to be truly damning if he wants to shake the Trump supporters cstanleytech Aug 2020 #72
Winslow has already done some good ads flotsam Aug 2020 #73
I hope he means it. I've been strung along for almost a year now! ecstatic Aug 2020 #77
Whoa. Sounds like he has serious receipts. Vivienne235729 Aug 2020 #78
I'm still waiting for Tom Arnold's "news". llmart Aug 2020 #83
Know what's no surprise? Loge23 Aug 2020 #84
Cool story, bro. Codeine Aug 2020 #87

trueblue2007

(17,242 posts)
65. @realDonaldTrump is an Evil, Ugly, Mean-spirited man ..... he is the Anti-Christ.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:40 PM
Aug 2020

@realDonaldTrump is an Evil, Ugly, Mean-spirited man ..... he is the Anti-Christ.
#DonaldTrumpIsTheAntiChrist #LockTrumpUp #LockUpAllTheGOPs

Leith

(7,813 posts)
4. It could be like an Advent Calendar
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:03 PM
Aug 2020

Each day you can get words of wisdom, a jaw-dropping video, and a tiny bottle with a shot in it.

I wish he would start now.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Winslow has been promising stuff for a long time.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:07 PM
Aug 2020

I kind of wish he'd get rolling. I was starting to worry we might get Avenatti'd.

He also promised to drop a bomb on Lindsey Graham (figuratively, of course).

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
61. If it turns out there is nothing there,
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:19 PM
Aug 2020

it would be disappointing, but if it messes with Trump's brain, I suppose it is worth it.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
11. who is he?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:20 PM
Aug 2020

Is he in a position to have something? Anything?

Btw whatever happened to the tapes omarosa made?

ok_cpu

(2,056 posts)
18. He's a fantastic crime novelist.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:29 PM
Aug 2020

I think he's well plugged into law enforcement, etc. But, as noted above, he has made promises before that I at least missed materializing.

Not that I don't hope that he has some October goods.

karin_sj

(812 posts)
64. Yeah...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:39 PM
Aug 2020

I remember Fitzmas very well and remember the disappointment when absolutely nothing happened. Many years later, my hopes were so high for the Mueller Report, but that was a bust. I sure hope Winslow truly has something major in the works.

C Moon

(12,223 posts)
86. You should have been here early on in Trump's stolen election...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:07 PM
Aug 2020

there were more "another shoe is going to drop!" posts that lead to nowhere'sville, than you can imagine.
(oh wait, you were here...sorry. I saw the low post number and thought you were a newbie).

BonnieJW

(2,274 posts)
85. No, he can't start yet.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:53 AM
Aug 2020

Anyone who would believe trump's crap would forget in minutes any revelations. It has to be closer to the election and them hammer it home over and over.

brush

(53,925 posts)
9. He's probably not the only one with October surprise stuff in the can.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:15 PM
Aug 2020

I'm betting the "Lincoln Project", "Republican Veterans Against Trump" and the other never-trumpers have stuff scheduled.

Repugs aren't the only ones who can play that game.

And also Bloomberg just ponied up 60m for ads.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
12. The "Lincoln Project" and RVAT are Republicans. So, Repugs ARE the only ones, apparently.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:21 PM
Aug 2020

The right is so much better at political warfare - by far. Glad to have them on our side but it is just for this election cycle. They are republicans and will be so after this election.

brush

(53,925 posts)
13. You're leaving out Bloomberg. His ads against trump when...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:23 PM
Aug 2020

he was still in the Dem primary were very effective.

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
56. I hope some of Bloomberg's $$ are going to McConnell and Cornyn's opponents
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

A shot in the arm for their campaigns will help them buy air time especially in Texas's very pricey media markets for MJ Hager

McGrath's bit markets will not be as expensive but she will need travel money.

karin_sj

(812 posts)
66. What happened to that guy and all his promises?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:41 PM
Aug 2020

The least he could do, if he really wants to help, is put some of his mega-wealth into saving the post office.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
15. Only if the current Republicans are gone...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:25 PM
Aug 2020

No way in hell will they let these guys back into the club.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
28. Oh, yes way in hell. The guys with money will let them back. Beg them, even.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:52 PM
Aug 2020

The base will foam and rage, but the money guys want results, and these guys will strut around claiming to have done all the heavy lifting for the Democrats in order to save the Republican party.

They may keep a lower profile, but they will definitely have jobs. Jobs working for Republicans.

The base will be maneuvered back into the corral they were in before Trump: Snarling and spitting at "the establishment" but voting for them anyway because they hate us more.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
62. I respectfully disagree.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

IMO, neither the Republican party nor their base will be "maneuvered back into the corral they were in before Trump." Trump is not the cause of what the Republican party is today; he is the culmination of years and years of their worst impulses, finally laid bare. There is no putting that genie back in the bottle.

The GOP has made zero effort to change with the times or the demographics of a changing America. They have made zero effort to expand support beyond their 35-40% base. They have embraced Trump, so much so, that they are now the party of Trump. They are inextricably intertwined.

And Trump is not going quietly into that good night, even if he loses in a landslide. ( 🤞🤞🤞 ) He will permeate the airwaves and continue to tweet. And, especially if he loses in a landslide, he will be martyred. We will never be rid of him until he takes his last breath. And most likely, even then, we still won't be rid of him.

And even then, his very loud, ill-informed, racist, misogynistic and hateful base will remain. They will continue to control the party for the next 10-15 years, minimum. The Tea Party is a perfect example of this. And now, NOW, QAnon is on the rise. And the GOP will continue to fear them and pander to them. And these people Hold. A. Grudge.

So, I stand by my original statement... the current Republicans won't EVER let these guys back in the club.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
67. Let's reconvene in 2025, when several election cycles will have shown which of us is right.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:42 PM
Aug 2020

While you may disagree with my view, it is something we need to be prepared to deal with.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
41. The Lincoln Project guys ARE Pubs, but they've done some of the best anti DT ads of all!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:44 PM
Aug 2020

P don't care where the ads come from or who funds them, they all work to the same result we want, plus they have the $$ to do it!

renate

(13,776 posts)
50. The MeidasTouch guys are AMAZING
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:08 PM
Aug 2020

They’re the absolute best IMO.

Of course the Lincoln Project guys know what Republican voters like, so maybe they’re more effective to that group. And I really love their work. But IMO the MeidasTouch guys don’t get the appreciation they deserve. Because they deserve it to infinity.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
60. No that aren't the only ones. Being Republicans made it easier for them to attack
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:16 PM
Aug 2020

Trump than if Democrats did many of the same things since media would treat it differently.

Bleacher Creature

(11,258 posts)
14. I feel like we keep getting burned by this kind of thing.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:25 PM
Aug 2020

I sure hope he has something, but I'm going to wait to see it before getting too excited.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. They always believe it's much more than it actually is
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:34 PM
Aug 2020

Winslow prefers long multi tiered videos so I'd guess his "surprise" is along the same lines, something too drawn out to be effective. Everything with Trump merely adds to the campfire at this point.

The only exception would be something quick and damning from his own mouth, like vile repeated use of the N word

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
37. If there was video of him using the N word
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

he would go up five points in the polls. Sadly, that's the country we live in.

BamaRefugee

(3,488 posts)
39. Truth. I was actually going to do a poll here on DU whether he will use the N word on TV during the
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:32 PM
Aug 2020

RNC.
Would get a giant bounce in the polls, cuz, as we all know, "he tells it like it is" to the deplorables.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
44. Hardly
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:51 PM
Aug 2020

His devotees would be ecstatic but he would drop at least 2-5 points overall

Trump knows he can't afford anything like that. It is the reason he has guarded those Apprentice tapes just like his tax returns

An N-word tape would not be a minor short term story. It would have lasting impact far beyond the bus tape. It would define him every day. Columnists and broadcasters who have excused everything else would be forced to condemn it. It would be shockwaves that would dwarf a lie count. Every White House presser would be disrupted. Trump couldn't speak on any other topic without questions devoted to the tape.

And other Republicans would suddenly abandon him, or risk the association.

You guys could not be more wrong regarding the situational impact

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
55. The racists were already planning to vote for him anyway.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

An “N-Bomb” tape might cost him votes in the “blacks for trump” demographic though.

I think what would be truly damaging would be a tape disparaging his own base. Bragging to the Mar-Lago crowd about how he’s putting one over on the trashy, illiterate poors.

something so blatant that even the most ignorant yokel will stop and say “ hey wait a minute he’s talking about me!”

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,916 posts)
19. Really? If you have stuff start dropping it now.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Aug 2020

Especially since the majority of people will be early voting in some way, either in person or by mail. Waiting until October only makes sense if we were still in the era when Election Day was one and only one day.

And, who exactly is Don Winslow?

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
22. October is a little on the late side. Absentee/mail-in ballots go out to voters in early October.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:36 PM
Aug 2020

Give us the best by mid-September at the latest, so everyone can chew on it, absorb what they don't vomit, then vote.

Of course, many of us could vote today - we know wayyyyyy too much, more than we ever wanted to know.

liberalla

(9,266 posts)
24. Yes, I remember his promises/threats of upcoming revelations, and
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:39 PM
Aug 2020

I for one, am certainly looking forward to them!!

Damn, I can't wait! YES! YES! YES!!!





keithbvadu2

(36,962 posts)
31. My favorite
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:57 PM
Aug 2020

NEW: As others stood at attention for the national anthem, President Donald Trump was fidgeting, pointing, and pretending to conduct a band



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FailureToCommunicate

(14,026 posts)
74. Is it a bit odd that both the young man, AND the First "Lady" have their left hand over their
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:18 PM
Aug 2020

right side of chest?

Seems weird.

keithbvadu2

(36,962 posts)
75. Something about which camera you use on a smart phone.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

Something about which camera you use on a smart phone.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
34. With all the mail-in voting, maybe September would be a better plan?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Aug 2020

assuming this isn't just another grasp for attention.

soldierant

(6,938 posts)
38. I'm not worried that e has nothing.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:28 PM
Aug 2020

I am a little concerned that stuff may come out too late - when people have already voted.

Although it seems to be our people who do the most early voting. I don't know.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
40. I usually dislike these kinds of teasers
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:33 PM
Aug 2020

But don Winslow has repeated these promises so I’m thinking now there is substance.

Also, I like the idea of Mary trump releasing audio.

speaknow

(321 posts)
46. Well that's nice for Don Win
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
Aug 2020

Okay lets be real, nothing sticks to that SOB,
he still get his 41 percent. Why? because he
owns them the ones in Congress. Plus the
Repubs don't vote for the
person, they vote party. Plus with all the
crap has come out and crap yet to come, the
SOB was never really vetted in the first place.
Ask yourself, where was the progressive news
people? if you don't know they are part of
the 1 percent that got the tax break.
People have to get out and vote, that's it! wait
for the time and do it

mucifer

(23,576 posts)
49. WaPo and NYT did a lot of great investigative reporting before the 2016 election
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

Too many people just didn't give a ef

Fiendish Thingy

(15,686 posts)
47. Since most Trump voters plan to vote in person, October is good timing
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
Aug 2020

Most Biden voters plan to vote by mail, so any of Trump’s October surprises may be too late...

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
59. Maybe one of those maxwell tapes of trump with underage girls or boys?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:12 PM
Aug 2020

Rumors about this are out there. Or about trump's drug use? So many things but can he grease his way out?

Poiuyt

(18,131 posts)
63. What could he reveal that would make a difference to Republicans?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

The only thing I could think of is it was proved that he paid for some of his mistresses to have abortions (which is not too farfetched).

cstanleytech

(26,334 posts)
72. Assuming he has anything it would have to be truly damning if he wants to shake the Trump supporters
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:01 PM
Aug 2020

up especially after they are still giving Trump their complete support after the many things Trump has done already like his choosing to do absolutely nothing about Russia paying bounties for killing US troops.

ecstatic

(32,748 posts)
77. I hope he means it. I've been strung along for almost a year now!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:47 PM
Aug 2020

He says he has dirt on Lindsey as well. I'm ready, but I guess I can be patient for a few more weeks.

All the MAGAts are waiting to vote on election day. If Winslow releases the surprise a few days before Nov 3, tRump and pUtin won't have time to respond and the MAGAsses might stay home.

llmart

(15,557 posts)
83. I'm still waiting for Tom Arnold's "news".
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:04 AM
Aug 2020

I'm a little tired of these teasers and nothing happens.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
84. Know what's no surprise?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:54 AM
Aug 2020

That our election system is seemingly hopelessly broken.
This is what it is now - "surprises".
No more policy debates; in the GOP, no more policy at all.
So now we have been dragged into this muck and now we too must play the surprise game.
It's not that we have much of a choice. For too long, we have been the voices of reason. We stand back in the midst of a blizzard of withering lies about our candidates and policies because we know we're right; but in crazy world, in which we now live in this country, being right doesn't matter anymore - it's about being loud now.
So we see the #IPOTUS maintain his base by continuing his lies, his racism, and his hatred.
We know that whatever "surprise" our side may have in store, no matter how urgent for the security of our country, must be now "timed" right. Because timing is everything now since yesterday's scandals are forgotten by tomorrow.
And some of us still think we have a future??

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