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*** Protecting the Timely Delivery of Mail - House Oversight Hearing*** (Original Post) Mersky Aug 2020 OP
Chairwoman Maloney is reading opening remarks Mersky Aug 2020 #1
The placard in front of DeJoy spells Honorbale (sic) incorrectly...how appropriate. c-rational Aug 2020 #2
Comer is an @$$ PaDemocrat Aug 2020 #3
this ranking Republican is doing his best to confuse things and LIE LIE LIE steve2470 Aug 2020 #4
He indicated he was more interested in poaching the Postal Service Mersky Aug 2020 #8
Some Mail Is Delayed Five to Six Days in NYC, Postal Workers' Union Says Mersky Aug 2020 #5
we had a "500 year flood", agingdem Aug 2020 #26
DeJoy looks quite uncomfortable The Blue Flower Aug 2020 #6
Dejoy Looks like a comic book villain uponit7771 Aug 2020 #7
Good grief, no doubt. Is right out of central casting for 'mail thief' Mersky Aug 2020 #10
Rep. Connnoly ripping Dejoy. Dejoy's eyes are shifting while his ass oasis Aug 2020 #9
DeJoy looks guilty. SamKnause Aug 2020 #11
Republicans favorite words: SamKnause Aug 2020 #12
of course those are thier favorite words Kali Aug 2020 #99
Rep. Jody Hice now blaming "riots" on postal delays. SamKnause Aug 2020 #13
The riots did mess up important UPS deliveries on the west side of Chicago for weeks mucifer Aug 2020 #17
I heard some Republican "witness" say UPS instead of USPS. CottonBear Aug 2020 #28
Honestly, it was a big safety issue in those days to not go into the west side of Chicago with big mucifer Aug 2020 #34
Hice is from my district. He has NEVER come to the biggest city in the district, CottonBear Aug 2020 #25
Christ, Gym Jordan and DumDum Gohmert look Major League against these Republican no hopers, and OnDoutside Aug 2020 #14
Saw rep walker chitchatting with dejoy before the hearing Mersky Aug 2020 #15
Five minutes of praise and sucking up to DeJoy. SamKnause Aug 2020 #16
Why wouldn't he? I mean, he received $2,800 from dejoy on May 3, 2019 Mersky Aug 2020 #20
DeJoy; "... I didn't direct ending overtime I suspended overtime !!!..." REALLY ?!?! WTF uponit7771 Aug 2020 #18
not exactly plausible deniability...didn't direct ending overtime..suspended it agingdem Aug 2020 #31
Nope, not at all ... now he's bullshitting about overtime addressing the overtime question to uponit7771 Aug 2020 #33
to paraphrase Inigo Montoya agingdem Aug 2020 #37
He's lying. femmocrat Aug 2020 #19
DeJoy seems angry. SamKnause Aug 2020 #21
Technical difficulties - placeholder for current guy speaking Mersky Aug 2020 #22
Is Gym Jordan participating in this hearing? blogslut Aug 2020 #23
Rep Maloney is holding up the report: Service Performance Measurement - PMG Briefing Aug. 13, 2020 Mersky Aug 2020 #24
"We didn't have executive briefings like this before." Mersky Aug 2020 #27
NoJoy Karma13612 Aug 2020 #29
He's playing with words saying he didn't "direct" actions but suspended them and then not .. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #35
Maloney is destroying him.. PaDemocrat Aug 2020 #30
OMG - foxx is guarding dejoy Mersky Aug 2020 #32
dejoy gave foxx $2700 in 2016 Mersky Aug 2020 #36
"Eliminate overtime". Decoy "purposely" didn't try to find out who issued oasis Aug 2020 #38
Rep Eleanor Norton spoke Mersky Aug 2020 #39
Just flipping through broadcast channels - crickets Aug 2020 #40
Trucks must leave on schedule Mersky Aug 2020 #41
I want to scream! It's a SERVICE not a business! I loathe DeJoy. N/T CottonBear Aug 2020 #45
Some glitchy sound going on blogslut Aug 2020 #42
Jeebus! jayfish Aug 2020 #44
Rep Clay - having technical issues Mersky Aug 2020 #43
The "no OT" memo email--- Karma13612 Aug 2020 #46
Rep Lynch making good points!!! Mersky Aug 2020 #47
Lynch is firing with both barrels. crickets Aug 2020 #50
And Dejoy's reply, "humina, humina, humina". oasis Aug 2020 #54
Lynch was excellent! Bluepinky Aug 2020 #66
Rep. Lynch Killing It. jayfish Aug 2020 #48
After 240 years of delivering mail on time, how can one person screw this up? - Rep Lynch Mersky Aug 2020 #49
Thank you for this... stillcool Aug 2020 #51
Grossness: dejoy is shielding himself with 650k postal workers Mersky Aug 2020 #52
Woohoo! Karma13612 Aug 2020 #53
Palmer R-AL is angling for both siderism, "It all started going downhill with Obama" argument. crickets Aug 2020 #55
GET HIM COOPER !!! 500,000 ballots rejected because of late arrival !!! uponit7771 Aug 2020 #56
"That's not efficiency, that's insanity" - Rep. Cooper Mersky Aug 2020 #57
ANSWER THE GOT DAMN QUESTION !!! uponit7771 Aug 2020 #58
Did you payback several of your employees for contributing to the tRump campaign? Mersky Aug 2020 #59
Ooh, Jim Cooper is pushing all Dejoy's buttons blogslut Aug 2020 #60
Cooper nailed him BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #64
Are your mail delays implicit campaign contributions? Mersky Aug 2020 #61
Cooper got down to the point. I think he startled everybody by going that far. crickets Aug 2020 #69
"Is your backup plan to be pardoned like Roger Stone?" DAMN! CottonBear Aug 2020 #62
Steube reminds us all he was a brave, brave soldier blogslut Aug 2020 #63
yeah..aren't a lot of postal employees veterans? stillcool Aug 2020 #67
USPS employs more veterans PatSeg Aug 2020 #76
Staffers Need to Compile Stats... jayfish Aug 2020 #68
Wolverine's detached parasitic twin* is aghast that anyone could suggest that tRump is interested Mersky Aug 2020 #65
It was the riots fault maxrandb Aug 2020 #70
He mischaracterized the nature of the hearing thus far Mersky Aug 2020 #75
Is it ever Retrumplicans fault? maxrandb Aug 2020 #77
Rep William Clay - asked for any data leading up to changes he implemented Mersky Aug 2020 #71
Norman R-SC actually *apologizes* to DeJoy about the berating he's receiving. crickets Aug 2020 #72
Most of the GOPers have offered same apology. N/T CottonBear Aug 2020 #74
Unsurprising. I joined late, so thanks for catching me up. crickets Aug 2020 #79
He was good! I'm listening. DeJoy sounds like a Mob associate. N/T CottonBear Aug 2020 #83
GOP Rep from SC talking about "burned out cities." CottonBear Aug 2020 #73
You've not had contact with the tRump campaign? Mersky Aug 2020 #78
The only contact that dejoy offered up was mnuchin Mersky Aug 2020 #80
+1 crickets Aug 2020 #85
I want to meet Gym Jordan walking down a dark alley maxrandb Aug 2020 #81
Jordan is a joke PaDemocrat Aug 2020 #82
Yes, it's seemingly true that Gym is on every committee Mersky Aug 2020 #84
Rep Krishnamoorthi is now questioning Duncan Mersky Aug 2020 #86
He points out direct quotes from a published letter accusing Democrats crickets Aug 2020 #87
Meet the chairman of the Board of Governors for the USPS: robert m duncan Mersky Aug 2020 #89
Oh, no conflict of interest there, nosiree. Wow. nt crickets Aug 2020 #100
Rep. K with a masterful setup of Duncan's questionable connections, oasis Aug 2020 #90
"Were you elected by a unanimous bi-partisan board?" [edited w/addition] crickets Aug 2020 #88
Jamie Raskin!!! Mersky Aug 2020 #91
Would you hire me without a background check? - Raskin Mersky Aug 2020 #92
What gave you the impression that the job was yours for the asking? Mersky Aug 2020 #93
What made steven mnuchin's involvement in your selection unprecedented? Mersky Aug 2020 #94
More on Mnuchin crickets Aug 2020 #95
New Breed now XPO logistics Mersky Aug 2020 #96
republicans are throwing feces so that dejoy can't answer questions Mersky Aug 2020 #97
Brief recess Mersky Aug 2020 #98
What are NoJoy and the photographer Karma13612 Aug 2020 #101
maybe the angle he is being shown at Kali Aug 2020 #111
Oof - got back in here a little late Mersky Aug 2020 #102
Rep Rouda is laying things out pretty clearly Mersky Aug 2020 #103
Mentioned there is a bill on mcconnell's desk Mersky Aug 2020 #104
Asking him whether he's modified the Postal Service's 'business plan' Mersky Aug 2020 #105
dejoy said he wouldn't do it Mersky Aug 2020 #106
"It's like telling Jamba Juice they can't plug in the blenders to do their job." - Rouda Mersky Aug 2020 #107
Rep Rouda calling out the Repub supported trump scam to shake confidence in mail-in voting. crickets Aug 2020 #108
Hice (R GA) accusing postal union of planning to NOT deliver Republican ballots, CottonBear Aug 2020 #109
Yep. He's also dragging in the Hatch Act, which if we really wanted to go there crickets Aug 2020 #116
dejoy hasn't considered the postal service's impact on the election in his 70 days at the USPS Mersky Aug 2020 #110
Rep Khanna questioning dejoy, now Mersky Aug 2020 #112
GOP Rep. Hice is lying about Postal Unions violating the Hatch Act. nt oasis Aug 2020 #113
You understand that there are millions who see these actions in the opposite? - Khanna Mersky Aug 2020 #114
What is the harm in putting these machines back in place? Mersky Aug 2020 #115
"We don't need the machines" is obviously a lie given what's going on. crickets Aug 2020 #121
Get me the billion and I'll put them back... - dejoy Mersky Aug 2020 #117
It's a quid pro quo Karma13612 Aug 2020 #123
Ro Khanna is cornering Dejoy blogslut Aug 2020 #118
Rank member comer is kissing tRump's butt by proxy Mersky Aug 2020 #119
DeJoy, the Post Master General, can't even quote the Postal Service motto maxrandb Aug 2020 #120
Funny how this week, the slowdown is Obama's fault, according to the GOP/Dejoy blogslut Aug 2020 #122
Ugh, comer et. al are covering for dejoy Mersky Aug 2020 #124
Rep Mfume now has the mic Mersky Aug 2020 #125
Trying to blame the removal of boxes on Obama and Biden crickets Aug 2020 #126
Is asking dejoy to put the density reports back online Mersky Aug 2020 #127
Me too. [misplaced reply here, oops. leaving as is.] crickets Aug 2020 #129
What would say to the veterans and seniors that are experiencing late deliveries? - Mhume Mersky Aug 2020 #128
Lol, dejoy is having trouble with grothman (R-WI) Mersky Aug 2020 #130
Rep Wasserman Schultz is now questioning dejoy Mersky Aug 2020 #131
We have been asking questions of you for weeks and you have been hiding answers from us Mersky Aug 2020 #132
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a longtime supporter of NALC. oasis Aug 2020 #133
Ooooo caught him Mersky Aug 2020 #134
Bingo! eta crickets Aug 2020 #137
My observation and takeaway... Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #135
I don't know who this thumb-in-a-tie is on my screen Mersky Aug 2020 #136
Clay Higgins R-LA, and thumb-in-a-tie is the most hilarious and accurate description! crickets Aug 2020 #139
Lol. From your heart, dejoy why oh why USPS? Mersky Aug 2020 #138
Rep Sarbanes: you have an opportunity today to demonstrate your intentions are pure Mersky Aug 2020 #140
THREAD #2 Mersky Aug 2020 #141

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. this ranking Republican is doing his best to confuse things and LIE LIE LIE
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:23 AM
Aug 2020

Gaslighting, nothing wrong, keep moving.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
8. He indicated he was more interested in poaching the Postal Service
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:33 AM
Aug 2020

Than whether his constituents are getting the mail or if United States citizens get to have a fair and free election. So, yeah, requires a lot of lying, stammering, and performative bullshit to get through a hearing like this.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
5. Some Mail Is Delayed Five to Six Days in NYC, Postal Workers' Union Says
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:26 AM
Aug 2020

News coverage of delays in mail as given by the Chairwoman:

Some Mail Is Delayed Five to Six Days in NYC, Postal Workers’ Union Says
By Clodagh McGowan New York City
PUBLISHED 5:36 PM ET Aug. 13, 2020

Like most businesses, the Astoria Bookshop closed its doors to customers when the pandemic erupted. That's when the Postal Service became a lifeline, allowing owner Lexi Beach to sell books online.
But she's noticed problems recently: deliveries to her store with postmarks that are two weeks old, and books mailed to customers in Queens ending up in other states before being delivered back in New York.

-snip-

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2020/08/13/nyc-elections-2020-nyc-vote-by-mail-mail-is-delayed-by-days-union-says

____

From Courier Journal in Kentucky: Postal Service’s Cost Cutting is Frustrating Kentuckians -
(behind paywall)

____


And the last article mentioned by Rep. Maloney:

'Like Armageddon': Rotting food, dead animals and chaos at postal facilities amid cutbacks
LA Times
Laura J. Nelson, Maya Lau
,LA Times•August 20, 2020

Employees at California postal facilities provide a glimpse of the chaos amid both the pandemic and widespread cuts imposed by the USPS.

Employees at California postal facilities provide a glimpse of the chaos amid both the pandemic and widespread cuts imposed by the USPS. (Eduardo Contreras / San Diego Union- Tribune)
Six weeks ago, U.S. Postal Service workers in the high desert town of Tehachapi, Calif., began to notice crates of mail sitting in the post office in the early morning that should have been shipped out for delivery the night before.

At a mail processing facility in Santa Clarita in July, workers discovered that their automated sorting machines had been disabled and padlocked.

And inside a massive mail-sorting facility in South Los Angeles, workers fell so far behind processing packages that by early August, gnats and rodents were swarming around containers of rotted fruit and meat, and baby chicks were dead inside their boxes.

-snip-

https://news.yahoo.com/armageddon-rotting-food-dead-animals-180715834.html

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
26. we had a "500 year flood",
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:57 AM
Aug 2020

an ice storm that trapped us in our homes for days and yet my mail was still delivered every day..so now DeJoy, that Lex Luther wannabe, is insisting nothing has changed..my mail is almost non existent..my meds, once on time, are days late, overnight delivery of perishable goods arrives three and four days late, rancid or visibly rotting...and yet, this Louie insist this business as usual..he's a lying asshole but given the piece of garbage he works for "lying asshole" is part of his job description...

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
10. Good grief, no doubt. Is right out of central casting for 'mail thief'
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:35 AM
Aug 2020

Or white collar crime defendant

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
11. DeJoy looks guilty.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
Aug 2020

I hope they rake him over the coals.

Republicans whining they weren't notified.

Same shit different hearing.

I fucking hate republicans.

Kali

(55,006 posts)
99. of course those are thier favorite words
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:31 PM
Aug 2020

they are what they do best

I mean, after all...be best!

mucifer

(23,521 posts)
17. The riots did mess up important UPS deliveries on the west side of Chicago for weeks
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:46 AM
Aug 2020

It was a horrible mess. My patient couldn't get her g tube feeds. We had to get creative.

But, that was months ago and it's been worked out.

Oh and that was UPS NOT USPS.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
28. I heard some Republican "witness" say UPS instead of USPS.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:59 AM
Aug 2020

That tells me all I need to know about him.

mucifer

(23,521 posts)
34. Honestly, it was a big safety issue in those days to not go into the west side of Chicago with big
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:12 AM
Aug 2020

packages. It was bad. I saw my patients. But, I wasn't bringing anything but a nursing bag.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
25. Hice is from my district. He has NEVER come to the biggest city in the district,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:57 AM
Aug 2020

because it’s a blue city with lots of black and brown people. He has no office here, nor has he ever had a constituent meeting here. He is a worthless, mean and stupid representative.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
14. Christ, Gym Jordan and DumDum Gohmert look Major League against these Republican no hopers, and
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:39 AM
Aug 2020

THAT'S saying a lot.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
15. Saw rep walker chitchatting with dejoy before the hearing
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:42 AM
Aug 2020

Wonder how much mega donor dejoy gave to his campaign? Brb...

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
20. Why wouldn't he? I mean, he received $2,800 from dejoy on May 3, 2019
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:48 AM
Aug 2020

According to rollcall (which I will not link to, because good reasons), dejoy’s given $21,000 to walker since 2014.

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
31. not exactly plausible deniability...didn't direct ending overtime..suspended it
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:05 AM
Aug 2020

that's like saying admission is free, pay a the door...he's not very good at bullshit...he doesn't like this accountability thing, does he?!

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
33. Nope, not at all ... now he's bullshitting about overtime addressing the overtime question to
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

... "limitations" vs suspending it

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
37. to paraphrase Inigo Montoya
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:17 AM
Aug 2020

"You keep using those words (suspend, limitations)...I do not think they mean what you think they mean"..NoJoy and the orange dung heap were obviously separated at birth

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
21. DeJoy seems angry.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:49 AM
Aug 2020

Zero postal experience.

Most unqualified of all candidates that were up for the job.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
22. Technical difficulties - placeholder for current guy speaking
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:53 AM
Aug 2020

Stream dropped, audio issues. Will add his remarks here.

blogslut

(37,990 posts)
23. Is Gym Jordan participating in this hearing?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:54 AM
Aug 2020

I don't see him. I can't imagine him appearing via remote. Did he maybe refuse to attend in person because he's too manly to wear a mask?

I hope he isn't there today. His yelling gives me a headache.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
27. "We didn't have executive briefings like this before."
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020

translating dejoy - he said he doesn’t know what he’s doing

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
29. NoJoy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:01 AM
Aug 2020

Has a bit of a stammer problem.

So, I’d say he is up against a wall and feeling pretty bad.

Good, he downplayed the failures until pushed against said wall.

I hope someone asks him how REMOVING and taking Sorting Machines OFFLINE helps with efficiency!

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
35. He's playing with words saying he didn't "direct" actions but suspended them and then not ..
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

... answering direct question and changing the wording of the question to equipment etc when asked about the sorting machines.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
32. OMG - foxx is guarding dejoy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:08 AM
Aug 2020

She actually pivoted from not going into her own recent issues with mail delivery to congratulating him.

Ridiculous.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
36. dejoy gave foxx $2700 in 2016
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:15 AM
Aug 2020

Has been contributing to her campaigns since 2006 (was her first time running as an incumbent). Also, that was back when he was running the “New Breed Corporation”

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
39. Rep Eleanor Norton spoke
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:19 AM
Aug 2020

(I was distracted looking up campaign contributions from dejoy to republicans - there’s so many.) Please add any comments about her questioning.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
40. Just flipping through broadcast channels -
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:20 AM
Aug 2020

Both CNN and MSNBC have trump delegate counts on the screen. CNN is showing the RNC Convention with no sound in split screen off to the right side, because apparently it's so important on the first morning. Ugh. Thank goodness for CSPAN.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
41. Trucks must leave on schedule
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:22 AM
Aug 2020

doesn’t matter whether there’s actually any mail on them.

Postmaster dejoy - shipping air on time since June 2020.

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
46. The "no OT" memo email---
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:24 AM
Aug 2020

NoJoy says he DOESN’T want to find out who generated it?

He admits it to Rep Norton!

Why not! If it went against Dept policy, why not?!

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
47. Rep Lynch making good points!!!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

“Did you know the Postal Service has never allowed itself to be put in this position.”


Now, he is going through how the USPS has gotten the mail out on time through wars and crises...

Pretty darn forceful section - I’m gonna need to add a clip here.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
50. Lynch is firing with both barrels.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:29 AM
Aug 2020

He's basically accused DeJoy of deliberately breaking the USPS. It's getting hot in the room.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
66. Lynch was excellent!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:47 AM
Aug 2020

Smart, assertive and knowledgeable about the USPS, has many family members who work there.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
52. Grossness: dejoy is shielding himself with 650k postal workers
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:30 AM
Aug 2020

and is not gonna say anything useful

crickets

(25,959 posts)
55. Palmer R-AL is angling for both siderism, "It all started going downhill with Obama" argument.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:34 AM
Aug 2020

Now he's trying to lay the foundation for voting by mail to be rife with fraud because of voter registration issues. Claims the Obama Biden admin were responsible for inaccurate voter rolls. Makes a poor joke about Chinese hackers being responsible for technical issues.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
57. "That's not efficiency, that's insanity" - Rep. Cooper
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

Holds up trucking records. And then went on to point out that dejoy, “has single-handedly moved up the election date.”

crickets

(25,959 posts)
69. Cooper got down to the point. I think he startled everybody by going that far.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 AM
Aug 2020

If judged comparative to others caught out before him, Cooper points out DeJoy would be fined and removed from office of USPMG. Also points out DeJoys slowing the mail is essentially another form of campaign contribution. "Is your backup plan to be pardoned like Roger Stone?" :room gasps: Ouch.


CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
62. "Is your backup plan to be pardoned like Roger Stone?" DAMN!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:44 AM
Aug 2020

“Will you provide us with all communications with (Trump’s chief of staff)?”

blogslut

(37,990 posts)
63. Steube reminds us all he was a brave, brave soldier
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:45 AM
Aug 2020

How dare he, a brave soldier, be compared to a lowly postal worker.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
65. Wolverine's detached parasitic twin* is aghast that anyone could suggest that tRump is interested
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:47 AM
Aug 2020

in interfering in the election with dejoy’s help.

*steube

maxrandb

(15,311 posts)
70. It was the riots fault
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:56 AM
Aug 2020

Be very, very afraid of black and brown people... maybe some LGBTQ people as well... coming to burn your Stepford neighborhood.

I guess we know what the theme of the Retrumplican Party will be up until November.

Dems ought to bring up pictures of the tiki torches boys and proud boys and ask what the delays were in those areas.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
75. He mischaracterized the nature of the hearing thus far
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:01 PM
Aug 2020

Why wouldn’t he lie and spin those events, too?

Then goes on to portray dejoy as some kind of victim of not his own inexperience, poor performance, and questionable policies, but of Democratic members of the Oversight Committee who dare question him.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
71. Rep William Clay - asked for any data leading up to changes he implemented
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:56 AM
Aug 2020

dejoy is doing his typical taking issue with the word, “changes”.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
72. Norman R-SC actually *apologizes* to DeJoy about the berating he's receiving.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:58 AM
Aug 2020

Of course, if there were no USPS problems directly traceable to DeJoy, he wouldn't be in front of a committee hearing, now would he? Wow.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
79. Unsurprising. I joined late, so thanks for catching me up.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:05 PM
Aug 2020

I love how Connolly pushed back on that right after, pointing out that DeJoy's poor performance is the reason for the hearing after all. 🤭

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
78. You've not had contact with the tRump campaign?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:04 PM
Aug 2020

Rep Connally asking in regards to his testimony before the Senate.


crickets

(25,959 posts)
85. +1
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
Aug 2020

Mnuchin says he was not involved in postmaster general selection
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mnuchin-says-he-was-not-involved-in-postmaster-general-selection/ar-BB18cLoh?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP

Separately, David C. Williams, the former vice chairman of U.S. Postal Service Board of Governors who stepped down in April, said Mnuchin had "politicized" the agency and suggested "decision making" for the Postal Service "was largely transferred to the Secretary of Treasury." [snip]

He asserted in testimony before the Congressional Progressive Caucus that Mnuchin "continued contacts" with Republican appointees "issuing orders and expressing his approval and disappointment with their performance."



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/20/democrats-louis-dejoy-postal-service-399489
“By statute, the Treasury was made responsible for providing the Postal Service with a line of credit,” Williams said. “The Treasury was using that responsibility to make demands that I believe would turn the Postal Service into a political tool, ending its long history as an apolitical public infrastructure.”

Williams said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin was leading the attempts to politicize the agency, and Mnuchin insisted all Republican appointees "come to his office and kiss the ring and receive his blessing." Williams alleged Mnuchin wanted to confirm a wide swath of agreements within the USPS, as terms for receiving the line of credit.

"Clearly the president was determined that the Postal Service should inflict harm on Amazon," Williams said at the hearing.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
84. Yes, it's seemingly true that Gym is on every committee
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:08 PM
Aug 2020

He’s going for a quantity over quality effect. If there’s a mic and cameras - he’ll be there.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
87. He points out direct quotes from a published letter accusing Democrats
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:18 PM
Aug 2020

of planning to pad votes through absentee voting. USPS Board of Governors chair Duncan tried to lie outright and saying he doesn't know anything about it. Caught!

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
89. Meet the chairman of the Board of Governors for the USPS: robert m duncan
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Aug 2020

***Note - this is his bio from the USPS site: https://about.usps.com/who/leadership/board-governors/robert-duncan.htm

Robert M. Duncan
Chairman, USPS Board of Governors
Chairman, USPS Board of Governors Robert M. Duncan
Robert M. Duncan was appointed to the Postal Service Board of Governors by President Donald Trump and was confirmed by the Senate in August 2018. The Senate confirmed Duncan for a second term in December 2019. His current term expires on December 8, 2025. Duncan was re-elected as Chairman of the Board of Governors in November 2019.

His federal government service began in 1989 with an appointment to the President’s Commission on Executive Exchange. Duncan was also assistant director of the White House Office of Public Liaison under President George H.W. Bush. Duncan served as a member of the Board of Directors of the Tennessee Valley Authority from 2006 to 2011 and as the Board’s Chairman from 2009 to 2010. In 2017, he was named the 17th Chairman of the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships.

Outside of government service, he served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee from 2007 to 2009. As RNC Chairman, he raised an unprecedented $428 million and grew the donor base to 1.8 million – more donors than at any time in RNC history*. Duncan was also President and CEO of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity. He taught democracy to former communist leaders through the International Republican Institute, and he participated in the EastWest Institute’s U.S. China High Level Political Party Leaders Dialogue. He is the Chairman of the Board of Trustees at Alice Lloyd College, a private four-year liberal arts college in Pippa Passes, Kentucky, and Chairman and CEO of the Inez Deposit Bank in Inez, Kentucky.

Duncan holds degrees from University of the Cumberlands and the University of Kentucky College of Law, and he has completed various executive education programs.

Latest update: December 2019

*bolded section was presented on a placard by Krishthnamoorthi during the hearing

oasis

(49,365 posts)
90. Rep. K with a masterful setup of Duncan's questionable connections,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:21 PM
Aug 2020

being a bigtime GOP money raiser and serving on the Postal Board of Governors.

He first got Dejoy to state that the wearing of those two hats would be inappropriate.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
88. "Were you elected by a unanimous bi-partisan board?" [edited w/addition]
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:19 PM
Aug 2020

DeJoy actually answers yes.

The Postal Service scandal doesn't belong only to Donald Trump. Mitch McConnell played a big role
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/15/1969548/-Every-single-member-of-the-Postal-Service-board-was-appointed-by-Trump-thanks-to-Mitch-McConnell

But Trump isn’t the only Republican who’s been visiting with DeJoy, and DeJoy isn’t the only Postal Service leader who can thank Republicans for his sudden rise. As Yahoo! News reports, DeJoy is in "in frequent contact with top Republican Party officials.” Presumably that means Mitch McConnell. Which is quite the coincidence seeing that every single member of the current all-white, all-male Postal Service board of governors can thank McConnell for that role.

As it turns out, since 1970, members of the board of governors have served in staggered 9-year terms. The idea is to have a board whose membership is spread across multiple administrations and which owes allegiance to no particular White House. That should mean that about half those currently seated on the board are left over from Obama’s term in office, with others appointed by Trump. But that’s not what happened. In 2015, Obama re-nominated most of the existing board members for a second term, including those members appointed under Bush. Those six members should all still be on the board. None of them are.

That’s because McConnell did what he did so often—blocked those nominations. By the time Trump stepped in, the number of remaining Bush- and Obama-appointed board members was exactly zero. Then, as with federal judges, McConnell abruptly got out of the way. That means that every single current member of the United States Postal Service board of governors was appointed by Donald Trump.
That board then officially ousted lifelong Postal Service employee Megan Brennan, and replaced her with Republican fundraiser Louis DeJoy.


ETA2
Years of turmoil at Postal Service governing board fueled political firestorm, critics say
https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-turmoil-postal-service-governing-board-fueled-political/story?id=72482926

Sanders' decision in 2015 and 2016 to block two of the Obama administration's nominees -- made at the behest of powerful union leaders -- and McConnell's decision to block the rest in retaliation created a unique opportunity for President Donald Trump to appoint a full slate of picks to a panel that is meant to be comprised of bipartisan members serving staggered, seven-year terms.

That standoff over the appointees has emerged as a poignant example of the law of unintended consequences in Washington -- and Postal Service insiders now place it at the root of the current threat facing both the Postal Service and the upcoming presidential election. [much more]

crickets

(25,959 posts)
95. More on Mnuchin
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:28 PM
Aug 2020

Mnuchin Paved Way for Postal Service Shake-Up
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/business/economy/dejoy-postmaster-general-trump-mnuchin.html

In early February, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin invited two Republican members of the Postal Service’s board of governors to his office to update him on a matter in which he had taken a particular interest — the search for a new postmaster general.

Mr. Mnuchin had made clear before the meeting that he wanted the governors to find someone who would push through the kind of cost-cutting and price increases that President Trump had publicly called for and that Treasury had recommended in a December 2018 report as a way to stem years of multibillion-dollar losses. [snip]

Since 1970, the Postal Service had been an independent agency, walled off from political influence. The postmaster general is not appointed by the president and is not a cabinet member. Instead, the postal chief is picked by a board of governors, with seats reserved for members of both parties, who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate for seven-year terms.

Now, not only was the Trump administration, through Mr. Mnuchin, involving itself in the process for selecting the next postmaster general, but the two Democratic governors who were then serving on the board were not invited to the Treasury meeting. Since the meeting did not include a quorum of board members, it was not subject to sunshine laws that apply to official board meetings and there is no formal Postal Service record or minutes of what was discussed.

Article also goes into detail about trump's "issues" with Amazon and Bezos.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
96. New Breed now XPO logistics
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:28 PM
Aug 2020

They identified problems with contract file. Would you release those contracts?

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
97. republicans are throwing feces so that dejoy can't answer questions
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:30 PM
Aug 2020

because Jamie Raskin has to pack the work the republicans refuse to do into his five minutes of questioning.

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
101. What are NoJoy and the photographer
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:41 PM
Aug 2020

Talking about?
I always that photojournalists were silent recorders of truth.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
105. Asking him whether he's modified the Postal Service's 'business plan'
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020

And that he should give them written documentation about how he’s veered from the 5 year plan

crickets

(25,959 posts)
108. Rep Rouda calling out the Repub supported trump scam to shake confidence in mail-in voting.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:56 PM
Aug 2020

DeJoy's letter to the 46 states calling delivery of ballots into question is feeding that. Mail is being delivered late, hurting businesses, veterans, and others needed prescriptions. Points out that USPS delivers almost everywhere with no mandate to make a profit. Also points out how USPS is hobbled by the 75 year prefunding of health benefits and pensions, which is widely disapproved by postal workers, board of governors, and bipartisan members of Congress. Free business advice: the bill to change that and free up billions is on McConnell's desk, tells DeJoy to call McConnell and ask him to pass it.

DeJoy has no problem with the pre-funding mandate. He supports it.

DeJoy is "working on" making changes to his future business plan for the USPS. DeJoy claims USPS should be self-sustaining, Rouda points out that eliminating the pre-funding would accomplish that. [obviously, duhjoy.]

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
109. Hice (R GA) accusing postal union of planning to NOT deliver Republican ballots,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:00 PM
Aug 2020

because they endorsed Biden.

That is a horrendous lie!

crickets

(25,959 posts)
116. Yep. He's also dragging in the Hatch Act, which if we really wanted to go there
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:05 PM
Aug 2020

would have a drastic effect on trump's RNC Convention speakers roster, not to mention all of the free rally coverage on WH grounds he's been getting for years.

Hice is acting like we've never had successful absentee and mail-in voting for years. All of these Repubs are. Didn't a judge order trump to prove mail-in voting fraud or stfu, just in the last day or so? One of the Dem reps really should bring that up. Again and again.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
110. dejoy hasn't considered the postal service's impact on the election in his 70 days at the USPS
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:00 PM
Aug 2020

because duhjoy*


*Lol - see Crickets above

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
114. You understand that there are millions who see these actions in the opposite? - Khanna
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:03 PM
Aug 2020

How many millions would it take to reinstall these machines? Less than a billion?

crickets

(25,959 posts)
121. "We don't need the machines" is obviously a lie given what's going on.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

DeJoy doesn't want to admit he destroyed many of those machines and can't put them back. Also refuses to admit that voter confidence is vital and would be restored along with those machines and a return to better service.

"Give me a billion and I'll put them back."

Nailed him. What a putz. It's all about money, and DeJoy knows McConnell will never pass the bill that would give him the $$$.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
117. Get me the billion and I'll put them back... - dejoy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:05 PM
Aug 2020
Get him the billion to fix what he broke? Good gawd this guy is terrible.

blogslut

(37,990 posts)
118. Ro Khanna is cornering Dejoy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:06 PM
Aug 2020

The honorable postmaster does not like it.

Khanna got Dejoy to admit he would re-install the sorting machine if he got a billion dollars.

maxrandb

(15,311 posts)
120. DeJoy, the Post Master General, can't even quote the Postal Service motto
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:07 PM
Aug 2020

I fucking love that Democrat who asked him to recite the motto...

DeJoy was like, "uh...rain, gloom,...mumble, mumble... something, something".

Fuck, just a God Damned average ordinary American could quote that.

It was like watching Donnie Shit for Brains talking about "Two Corinthians".

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
124. Ugh, comer et. al are covering for dejoy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:13 PM
Aug 2020

and it is disgusting. The time, resource, and democracy wasting liars must be booted out of office.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
125. Rep Mfume now has the mic
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:15 PM
Aug 2020

Is describing the effects on everyday Americans receiving late fees, etc. due to delays in the mail.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
126. Trying to blame the removal of boxes on Obama and Biden
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:16 PM
Aug 2020

Comer trying to make it sound like current complaints are the fault of Democrats, and a hoax. Not pointing out the reason nobody squawked about it before now was because boxes were not removed in targeted numbers that hurt people to the point they felt the need to complain.

DeJoy: "It's a long standing thing, and I would rather talk about ..."

Yeah, I bet you would rather talk about something else.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
129. Me too. [misplaced reply here, oops. leaving as is.]
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
Aug 2020

DeJoy will not admit that by changing long standing programs at the USPS regarding mail delivery he has directly affected mail service and slowed it down.

DeJoy: "concerned" and "working on it" -- nobody is bothering to pin him down on how he plans to work on it.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
128. What would say to the veterans and seniors that are experiencing late deliveries? - Mhume
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:21 PM
Aug 2020

duhjoy: We are concerned about every delivery that is late and we are working to get it back on track.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
130. Lol, dejoy is having trouble with grothman (R-WI)
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

He doesn’t know the right team answer for what the postal service will do with all the extra postage revenue from ballots being mailed with return postage in Wisconsin.

(dejoy has no idea what to do with that question. more revenue from election? wha? goes spiral eyes as he cannot compute the strategic answer that will assuage the orange one.)

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
132. We have been asking questions of you for weeks and you have been hiding answers from us
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:29 PM
Aug 2020

- my rough paraphrasing as she argues that he has not been honest with them

oasis

(49,365 posts)
133. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a longtime supporter of NALC.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:31 PM
Aug 2020

She has been guest speaker at several bi-annual conventions of the National Assoc. of Letter Carriers.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
134. Ooooo caught him
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:32 PM
Aug 2020

he can’t have it both ways and claim decisions about the sorting machines aren’t his to make, then go on to say he won’t let them be plugged back in.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
135. My observation and takeaway...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:32 PM
Aug 2020

When DeJoy's buttons are pressed he starts talking like a Mafia mob boss straight out of Hollywood central casting. Most curious.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
138. Lol. From your heart, dejoy why oh why USPS?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

Uh, jobs...experience, uh,.. vague statement about leadership, so fuggedaboutit

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