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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUniversal basic income will get the poor and young voters to the polls and elect Joe and Kamala.
Kamala Harris has hinted at supporting making the $1200 stimulus check a monthly thing. My details are kind of sketchy. But based on articles I've read, it sounded to me like she supports making it a permanent thing at least for awhile, what that means is up in the air.
But at least she's talking about it.
Kamala is on to something here.
The need for a universal basic income has become glaringly clear in this pandemic.
It can save our country from economic collapse.
It can help our people weather the storm.
I believe Joe would support Kamala's idea as well.
To Joe and Kamala, champion this. Campaign on it and we will elect you.
Take it to the bank.
Peace.
mvd
(65,169 posts)But after how Repukes have sat on their hands for months with no new aid, that alone should get them to the polls.
mvd
(65,169 posts)Some right wingers want to give out a paltry UBI and then take away the protections that people rely on now.
Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)Some guaranteed income to get through the pandemic and a moratorium on evictions is necessary. Getting money into the economy in crucial... explain Democrats want to get more to the people, whereas the GOP wants to get more to the corporations (and stock market) by keeping loans artificially low (free money for investment). In reality it probably needs to be a mix of both?
Universal income will easily be defined by Republicans as lazy Americans taking money from working Americans. American voters are already leery of Universal healthcare and that should have been a no brainer.
mvd
(65,169 posts)We need to defend the good things and not run away. And the polls have shown movement to the progressive side on health care.
Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)The Biden-Harris platform is a very good start. Being President of all of the People, and not just the political base, is how they are choosing to run and what they believe they can get through Congress. Democrats nominated Biden, and the polls are in Biden's favor.
As for healthcare, a Medicare buy-in is possible, Universal Healthcare will have to wait.
mvd
(65,169 posts)We should still be talking about these progressive issues though, even if the candidates dont themselves. Because with Biden we at least have an ear, and with Trump we do not.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)LexVegas
(6,048 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Not at all. It's a great idea, but it has limited appeal to voters.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)a link where it says Kamala has supported making this a monthly thing ? It doesn't sound something that Kamala would say.
honest.abe
(8,656 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:53 PM - Edit history (1)
DFW
(54,330 posts)You have to tell them that the Treasury needs $180 Billion a month for 150 million Americans. That's $2.16 Trillion a year. The whole Federal budget was $4.79 Trillion in 2020. Whatever the USA was up to, we could now only afford a little over half of it due to this program. I suppose we could always try to invade and enslave China for free, but I don't give that much chance of success. Even dismantling the whole Defense Department wouldn't come close to paying for it, although we would get a nice thank you note from Putin. I just don't see how we can afford to do this on a universal basis. Proven need is one thing. Universal distribution is another.
Squidly
(783 posts)would solve a lot of our problems
DFW
(54,330 posts)Pretend its 1942 and Enteignung is in full swing. Confiscate 100% of the net worth of Bill Gates and distribute it to every man, woman and child in the USA. That would net them all about $400 apieceonce. What about next week? Playing Robin Hood isnt going to solve the mess were in this time. The problem is far more complicated. The proportions no longer permit simple solutions.
mvd
(65,169 posts)The wealthiest have had their wealth go up even during the pandemic. They should definitely be taxed more. Other ideas are a stock transaction tax and corporate tax increase (some corporations pay $0) and reducing defense spending. Now providing a comfortable living via UBI would probably crash the economy. But a more modest amount along with current social safety net provisions like food stamps, Medicare and Social Security is doable.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)pwb
(11,258 posts)The only way that will happen for them is Nationally. Legal pot may bring the young to the polls too. That could turn the whole south blue?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Fortunately Biden is the person who understands more than anyone that a job is more than disposable income.
Beyond that there is zero evidence that any income redistribution issues ever turns out higher voter participation in lower income voters.
For four decades WA State voters have had multiple referendums to allow an income tax for higher income, including one funded by the Gates family that would only target individuals making more than $ 1 million income a year. Not only have all of these been lost by a landslide they were defeated by large margins in poorer neighborhoods and resulted in no significant increase in lower income voter turnout.
Poor people want a life with dignity and that means a job that had purpose and pays well not a check in the mail.
brooklynite
(94,483 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)So long as it's not used to replace Social Security. I happen to get more than $1200/month on SS.