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New Yorks attorney general, Letitia James, revealed in a court filing on Monday that her office is probing the Trump Organization for fraud and tax evasion. And among the matters her office appears to be scrutinizing is a mysterious debt that has long appeared on his balance sheet: a $50 million loan connected to Trumps Chicago hotel and tower project that Trump claims to owe himself. In the past, Trump has suggested that this debt represents a loan he repurchased from a lender, but Mother Jones reported last year that the loan may not exist and may be evidence of tax fraud.
James investigation has not previously been made public, but according to the 68-page filing by her office, New York state prosecutors have been negotiating with the Trump Organization for months to turn over documents and make executives available to be interviewedand the company has largely complied. However, James office now contends, the Trump Organization abruptly halted its cooperation last month: It is refusing to turn over some subpoenaed documents, and Eric Trump canceled an interview hed previously agreed to. James is asking a New York judge to enforce seven subpoenas against the Trump Organization.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/08/new-yorks-ag-is-investigating-one-of-the-biggest-mysteries-on-trumps-balance-sheet/
The Trump Organization has consistently refused to answer questions about Chicago Unit Acquisition, a limited liability company it formed in Delaware in 2005, as construction began on the Trump International Hotel and Tower in downtown Chicago. But Trump did tell the New York Times in a 2016 interview that this debt represents a loan he repurchased from a group of lenders. We dont assess any value to it because we dont care, Trump said. I have the mortgage. That is all there is. Very simple. I am the bank. Jason Greenblatt, who was then the Trump Organizations top lawyer, declined to explain to the Times the reason for the Chicago Unit Acquisition deal. Its really personal corporate trade secrets, if you will, he said. Neither newsworthy or frankly anybodys business.
In March 2012, as Trump resolved his dispute with Deutsche Bank, he finalized a separate deal with Fortress and its partners to clear his debt with them. According to a source with direct knowledge of the deal who spoke to Mother Jones, Fortress ultimately agreed to accept 50 cents on the dollaror about $48 millionfor the outstanding debt (which by that time amounted to just under $100 million). This was a steep loss for the hedge fund and its partners. The question is whether the deal was whats known as a discounted payoffin which the debt was considered repaid and the loan was canceled by the lenderor whether Trump purchased what remained of the loan. That distinction has enormous implications.
When a lender forgives a portion of a loan, the IRS considers the unpaid portion taxable income. For instance, if a lender accepts $50 million in repayment of a $100 million debt, the borrower, in the eyes of federal tax authorities, has earned $50 million and owes tax on that. The tax could be as high as 39 percent. But big-time borrowers have devised a tactic to forestall paying taxes in cases in which theyre able to buy back their debt at a discount. They purchase the debt through a corporation, parking the loan within this entity to temporarily avoid realizing income. Debt parking falls into a legal gray area. Maybe there are respectable ways that it could work, but I would call it kind of a scam to pretend you havent gotten rid of the debt, says Daniel Shaviro, a professor of tax law at New York University.
So the distinction between whether Trump purchased his loan from Fortress or whether Fortress forgave the debt matters significantly. James filing confirms Mother Jones reporting that the Fortress loan was forgiven, and notes that the debt may have been a taxable event to the borrower.
lame54
(35,287 posts)Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)n/t
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)KS Toronado
(17,213 posts)Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)But Fuck Trump. It's definitely sleazy.
Also, how has he gotten away with this bullshit thus far? Is the IRS entirely toothless? Has every other regulatory agency in the nation been asleep?
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... you really think he's the only one doing this crap? ...
... it's just that, as always, he does it so much more badly than anyone else ...
maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)But as you said, he's done this so blatantly, and so consistently, for so long, that I can't understand why NY State or the IRS haven't buried him decades ago.
triron
(21,999 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)was to have a business loan made out to themselves, and then not pay anything on it (the loan) or not do anything on the loan (let it sit there in limbo land, while taking deductions for the interest paid on the loan (supposedly). This all becomes income to the loan payer...what do you think were the odds of trump declaring this as income and then not paying taxes on it? I bet zero.
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)You make $50 million through illegal corruption, then promptly loan it to yourself. You can, in theory, write off the loan you made as a 'business expense,' and the loan itself is not taxable. So you just avoided having to pay at least $7.5 million in taxes.
Sigh.
Yet another impeachable offense.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)LONG and detailed thread showing links to Trump Tower Chicago w/this LLC (money laundering???)
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1049475871160061958.html
ADDITIONALLY - Is this linked to Concord companies (indicted by Mueller)???
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11256396
Offshore Leaks link:
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/14081727
triron
(21,999 posts)tclambert
(11,085 posts)He is taking the 5th.
So he must have done something.
2naSalit
(86,572 posts)It's his thing.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,008 posts)...in which he "loaned" Donnie-boy a few to several million each year.
The loans had no repayment terms and no interval.
Then, daddy could claim the lost "interest" as a tax write off, & Donnie-boy paid no taxes on the money because it was "borrowed".
When daddy died, the borrower became the lender and he "wrote it down". So taxes were never paid and 2 decades of phantom interest was deducted from taxes owed.
That's how PINO was worth around $45 million in the late 70s even though he didn't do much of anything.*
I suspect this $50 million "loan" is a similar scheme.
*- This $45 million invested in an S&P index fund would be worth around $1.6 billion. This is more than PINO is actually worth counting the Trump Organization which was worth nearly $200 million when it took over the operation.
Successful businessman, my rear!
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)That is the question.
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)NotANeocon
(423 posts)The greatest con game / tax fraud ever invented for the crooked 1%