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Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:40 AM Aug 2020

How could the Kenosha shooter possibly get away?!

Below is video of him with his hands in the air as he approaches police vehicles! Onlookers were also yelling that he had shot people! (Then the video stops.)




Yet this is the report from The Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8665383/One-shot-dead-two-wounded-BLM-protesters-defy-curfew-Kenosha.html

'They're like a vigilante group,' sheriff Beth told the Journal Sentinel, though he said he was unsure if the man at the center of the outburst was linked to such a group.

Beth said the shooter had not been arrested but said he was 'confident we'll have him in a very short time' based on video footage seen by police.

The investigation of the latest shooting is being conducted by the Kenosha Police Department with the assistance of the FBI, Beth said.


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How could the Kenosha shooter possibly get away?! (Original Post) Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 OP
He's already been doxxed, looks like a really young teenager ansible Aug 2020 #1
I'm sure he'll be called "a very fine person"... regnaD kciN Aug 2020 #2
Probably raised on Call of Duty, Facebook and QAnon... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #4
Thanks for sharing, btw! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #5
He was already being chased by a group of people even before that ansible Aug 2020 #7
That's where he shot someone in the head earlier. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #8
The whole thing was complete chaos, an utter clusterfuck ansible Aug 2020 #9
Geez. Trump Jugend? tanyev Aug 2020 #12
Children should not have guns superpatriotman Aug 2020 #14
Maybe they can get him to speak at the RNC Thursday night? kentuck Aug 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author no_hypocrisy Aug 2020 #6
get ready for a trial that will make the Zimmerman shit seem tame Amishman Aug 2020 #10
More video with narration. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #11
Kick superpatriotman Aug 2020 #13
I hope someone pulls these threads together soon... OneGrassRoot Aug 2020 #15
A dozen threads about the first ho's speech superpatriotman Aug 2020 #16
The police deliberately kettled the protesters towards the armed militia Arazi Aug 2020 #21
So irresponsible and dangerous! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #22
Easy answer Bettie Aug 2020 #17
Yep, that seems to be what they did! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #18
Hmmm, so Kenosha PDs need to be defunded and rebuilt and all of the fuckers in it fired uponit7771 Aug 2020 #25
This kid better be charged and charged quickly Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #19
Yeah, thst was another thing he did! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #20
And why would not the police be in cahoots RussBLib Aug 2020 #23
So the shooter walks TOWARD the police with his ego_nation Aug 2020 #24
If We GeT rId Of PoLiCe WhAt WiLL wE dO wHeN tHeRe'S aN aCtIvE sHoOtEr WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #26
Thank goodness the police were there or... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #27
kick blogslut Aug 2020 #28
The chaos Trump wanted will continue until election day then suddenly subside. Trump's jalan48 Aug 2020 #29
Because he's WHITE Saboburns Aug 2020 #30
The Dayton OH cops quickly filled a white shooter... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #31

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
4. Probably raised on Call of Duty, Facebook and QAnon...
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:53 AM
Aug 2020

... from the time he was a toddler!

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
5. Thanks for sharing, btw!
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:05 AM
Aug 2020

The bottom pic is definitely him!





Edit: The blue-capped guy with the skateboard was running towards the shooter in the first pic, then clutching his chest in the second one. Was he one of the two people shot and confirmed killed?

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
8. That's where he shot someone in the head earlier.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:16 AM
Aug 2020

And maybe it was indeed self-defense?

It still doesn't explain why the police didn't take him into custody!

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
9. The whole thing was complete chaos, an utter clusterfuck
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:21 AM
Aug 2020

I don't think the cops even understood what just happened, you can see in another video he's raising his hands up but the cops just ignore him completely.

superpatriotman

(6,870 posts)
14. Children should not have guns
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:11 AM
Aug 2020

Parents should Also be held responsible for their children’s crimes

Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Original post)

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
10. get ready for a trial that will make the Zimmerman shit seem tame
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:25 AM
Aug 2020

little shit opens fire two separate times, but is at minimum being chased and arguably being attacked both times.

First is at some sort of automotive business, haven't seen a good video of that one yet.
Second is the video at the top.

A lot is probably going to depend on what led up to the shooter fleeing prior to the first gunshot. Also on WI's laws. Is he fundamentally an aggressor by showing up armed to a scene of unrest, and thus not considered legal self defense regardless of the other details?

This is going to be very ugly.

edit: or even uglier. Seeing stuff on twitter that the two shootings were by different people.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
15. I hope someone pulls these threads together soon...
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:26 AM
Aug 2020

what all happened last night, reports of this kid being encouraged via militia social media groups, including one cop, etc.

Jesus...

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
21. The police deliberately kettled the protesters towards the armed militia
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:53 AM
Aug 2020

According to one of the armed Boogaloo bois, it was preplanned


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Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
22. So irresponsible and dangerous!
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

Another witness observed several pick-up trucks leaving after the shots were heard. Might have been some armed white guys who didn't like the cops funneling the protestors their way.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
17. Easy answer
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:32 AM
Aug 2020

they chose to let him go, because they welcomed the militias.

This is the Sheriff:

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/cathy-myers-calls-for-resignation-of-kenosha-county-sheriff-david-beth/

Kenosha, WI – Cathy Myers, the 24-year high school teacher and two-term Janesville School Board member who is challenging Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, attended a public hearing of the Kenosha County Board’s Judiciary & Law Committee on Wednesday to denounce Sheriff David Beth for comments she described as “immoral.”

At a January 25th news conference, Sheriff Beth stated, “I’m to the point that I think society has come to a threshold where some people aren’t worth saving. We need to build warehouses, put these people into it, and lock them away for the rest of their lives.”

He continued, “Let’s put them in jail. Let’s stop them from going out and getting ten other women pregnant and having small children. Let’s put them away . . . We have to get to the point where we will no longer put up with the garbage people that fill our communities. They are a cancer to our society.”

Cathy Myers responded that Beth’s “racist dog whistles were deafening” and called on all elected officials and candidates to denounce his comments. “The silence of any elected official or candidate for office is a signal that institutional racism is acceptable,” she said.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
25. Hmmm, so Kenosha PDs need to be defunded and rebuilt and all of the fuckers in it fired
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:19 AM
Aug 2020

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
19. This kid better be charged and charged quickly
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:41 AM
Aug 2020

They'd have killed him if he was black, he killed someone and then rioters tried to apprehend him, and he killed one of them and shot another and tried to shoot dozens of others.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
20. Yeah, thst was another thing he did!
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 09:45 AM
Aug 2020

In addition to actually shooting people, video showed him shooting the gun as he was backing away towards the cops. By that time, the other people had backed off! The idiot could have killed anyone with those "warning shots" or whatever the hell it was supposed to be. (And maybe he actually did shoot someone during that part? Maybe the guy shot in the arm?)

RussBLib

(10,636 posts)
23. And why would not the police be in cahoots
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:11 AM
Aug 2020

With right-wing groups? We already know a number of them are members of such groups, including the KKK, etc, and we know they appear to enjoy, or should I say unable to avoid, the temptation to use deadly force on minorities.

A lot of work to do. A lot of bad apples to throw out.

ego_nation

(134 posts)
24. So the shooter walks TOWARD the police with his
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:17 AM
Aug 2020

gun slung around his neck, he’s not on the ground, the police manage not to light him up like a Christmas tree????

WTF

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
27. Thank goodness the police were there or...
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:44 AM
Aug 2020

... that shooter might have eventually got hurt by the protestors!



jalan48

(14,914 posts)
29. The chaos Trump wanted will continue until election day then suddenly subside. Trump's
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 11:09 AM
Aug 2020

message is fear and Biden's is hope. Chaos favors Trump.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
30. Because he's WHITE
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 11:21 AM
Aug 2020

See, in the United States white people get to shoot dark people mostly with with impunity.

That's what all this Black Lives Matter and kneeling for the National Anthem is all about.

I would have thought this would be self-evident.

{I'm an old, ashamed, white dude myself}

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
31. The Dayton OH cops quickly filled a white shooter...
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

... with bullets over a year ago.

However, his targets were not protestors of the police. If he was shooting protestors instead, then maybe even those Dayton cops would just let it slide?

I would hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me too much now.

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