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Celerity

(43,657 posts)
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:02 PM Aug 2020

Kyle Rittenhouse, charged in Kenosha protest homicides, considered himself militia

This is a really good article and shows that Rittenhouse and his ilk, whilst murderous white nationalists, are also PRO COP (pro white power coppers). They are a pure, newly minted form of Trumpian MAGAt domestic terrorist. They ARE a product of Trumpian intent. The 'boogaloo boys' on the other hand, are a different form of white power domestic terrorist They hate the cops, they are more along the lines of the Bundy clan and their penumbra of batshit cray neo-nazis. Their ideology has been around long before Trumpian intent. They do, however both share white power ideologies. These multiple typologies make combating this madness even harder. They also are basically impossible to tell apart in a fog of war combat theatre.

BTW, Rittenhouse was born January 3rd, 2003. He is exactly 2 months to the day too young to have even voted for Trump this time around, let alone 2016. He was not even yet a teenager yet when Trump took that fateful downward escalator ride in Trump Tower on June 16th, 2015. He is a pure distillation of Trumpian times.





https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/08/26/kyle-rittenhouse-charged-kenosha-protest-shootings-militia/5634532002/

Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old charged with shooting three people — two of them fatally — during a Kenosha protest Tuesday evening, considered himself a militia member trying to protect life and property, according to videos, interviews and social media posts. Video recorded in the hours before the shooting shows Rittenhouse hanging out with older armed men who say they're protecting a car lot. Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Ill., also did a video interview with the Daily Caller in front of a boarded up building. "People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business," Rittenhouse says in the clip. "And my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way. That’s why I have my rifle; I’ve gotta' protect myself, obviously. But I also have my med kit."



A man armed is seen outside the Kenosha County Courthouse in Kenosha on Sunday. Mike De Sisti / Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Earlier Tuesday, a local militia group known as the Kenosha Guard created a Facebook event called “Armed Citizens to Protect our Lives and Property.” The invitation was re-posted by the far-right website Infowars. The Kenosha Guard's Facebook page, which was taken down late Wednesday morning, called it a social club. But a post signed “Kenosha Guard Commander,” written to Kenosha Police Chief Miskins Tuesday, said this: “As you know I am the commander of the Kenosha Guard, a local militia. We are mobilizing tonight and have about 3,000 RSVP’s. Our effort has made the national media. I ask that you do NOT have your officers tell us to go home under threat of arrest as you have in the past. We are willing to talk to KPD and open a discussion. It is evident that no matter how many Officers, deputies and other law enforcement officers that are here, you will still be outnumbered.” At a news conference Wednesday, Miskinis said he didn't know what group Rittenhouse was part of. He wouldn’t comment on the circumstances leading up Tuesday night's shootings, saying the investigation was too new.


Militia groups cropping up around the country

Groups similar to Kenosha Guard have been showing up at protests promising to protect communities across the nation, said Alex Friedfeld, investigative analyst at the Anti-Defamation League. “The problem is, there is no way to vet who shows up and there is no guarantee that they're trained to handle guns,” he said. In New Mexico, a man affiliated with a militia calling itself New Mexico Civil Guard was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for firing into a crowd. He was reportedly trying to prevent people from taking down a statue of a Spanish conquistador. Although such groups claim allegiance with police, they are promoting their own agenda, according to Friedfeld. Their rhetoric often derides the Black Lives Matter movement, he said.

Another militia group, called the boogaloo, also has attended all three nights of protests in Kenosha so far, according to Justin Mishler, a self-proclaimed member who lives Belvidere, Illinois. About a dozen armed boogaloo members were at the protests Sunday, about two dozen Monday and more Tuesday, he said. Their purpose was also to provide security and protection for businesses, he said. Mishler said the Kenosha Guard is not affiliated with the boogaloo. "It sounds like a group that's probably a day old or less,” Mishler said, adding that neither he nor his fellow "boogaloo bois" know Rittenhouse. "He's not one of us," Mishler said. That makes sense to Friedfeld, considering that boogaloo questions the legitimacy of police while civil militias such as Kenosha Guard want to align with law enforcement. "The pro-cop stuff puts them wildly at odds with the boogaloo," he said. Tuesday's shootings in Kenosha represented a worst-case scenario, Friedfeld said, one he and his colleagues had been worried about. "The fact that a 17-year-old is allowed to walk around with a long gun without being stopped adds to the tension," he said. "Just the presence of a firearm can escalate quickly to murder.”



'We appreciate you guys'

Rittenhouse appears to be a strong supporter of police, according to his Facebook page, which has since been taken down. His page featured pictures of badges with black bands across them, which police wear in mourning when a fellow officer is killed. An image of Rittenhouse and another man was framed in a blue circle that contains the words, duty, honor, courage and "Blue lives matter." Rittenhouse also was shown in a photo of participants in the Grayslake, Lindenhurst, Hainesville Public Safety Cadet program. The website for that group, also removed from view Wednesday, said cadets, who are between the ages of 14 and 20, are schooled in police procedures including traffic stops, crash investigations, firearms, domestic disputes and crime scene investigation. Rittenhouse's interactions with police and those of his fellow militiamen have been cordial during the Kenosha protests, according to accounts from reporters and videos shared on social media. In one of the video clips, shot late Tuesday night, a law enforcement officer in an armored vehicle gives bottles of water to a group of armed men that includes Rittenhouse. The officer thanks the men for their help, though they are clearly civilians in violation of the city's 8 p.m. curfew. “We appreciate you guys,” the officer says. “We really do.”

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. "Our job is to protect this business"
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:13 PM
Aug 2020

Really, Kyle? That's your job, is it? Who hired you? Who's paying you? You said it's your job, and an employee implies and employer. Who's your boss on this job?

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
3. He appeared to be talking to someone on a cellphone when he went over to look at the victim.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:15 PM
Aug 2020

Any reports on who he was talking to?

Celerity

(43,657 posts)
4. the murderous white nationalist will answer..... 'Trump'
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:18 PM
Aug 2020

remember this fucker below?

he said 'call Donald Trump'




Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. These guys are hateful, stupid, radicalized and fantasize that they are heroes.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

The reality of fascism in the world is too distant for them to really understand what they supporting.

Like any good con artist Trump is playing these fools. The rest of the base to smart not to go out and do this, will support them with more hate.

The far right militias have been playing game for decades. The right is rife with sovereigns, "liberatarians", nativists, birchers, patriot movement types, etc.

They are thugs and terrorists but the right will continue to support them, and if the sane people in this country do not take them seriously enough, if we underestimate them, we are going to have another McVeigh.

The DOJ has coddled these groups for almost as long as they have been around and after Waco and Ruby Ridge they retreated further. Barr and Trump will not condone them and tacitly approve.

Make no mistake the right's goal here is a christofascist theocracy. We have been headed down this path since Reagan.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Other sites have shown pics and info about this guy
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:33 PM
Aug 2020


and it is so obvious he's a misfit. The pics show a tubby guy who looks 15, and describe someone who wanted to relate to cops.
In another context I could see him at some point developing into a serial killer ; it's not an unknown pattern.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
10. He appeared to be talking to someone on a cellphone when he went over to look at the victim.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 07:54 PM
Aug 2020

Any reports on who he was talking to?

During the protests on the night before this incident I was watching one of the live streaming video bloggers, and I saw something else that might provide evidence of cops working with some of these guys: A cop came screeching up to a group, lights blazing, and corralled six who were apparently attempting a break-in. He put them on the ground, then eventually released them. As they walked away one of them could clearly be seen packing what appeared to be a AK-47 type weapon. It was obvious enough that the blogger commented on it as well, also noting that at least four of the group were white. And the cop didn't confiscate it but let them all walk off.

FBaggins

(26,782 posts)
12. I don't think a 17-year old can legally carry a gun on the street in WI
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 10:50 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe target shooting with a parent... but he should have been arrested long before he had time to run down the street with a gun.

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