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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:04 AM Aug 2020

Three responses from previous debates that will work against Trump:

"There he goes again", when he tells an obvious lie. Which he will because he can't help himself.
It is an old quote from the Reagan/Carter debates.

"Where's the beef?", asked by Walter Mondale to Gary Hart. It totally disarmed Hart and may have helped Mondale get the nomination? Biden can use this line when Trump starts bragging about his wall.

"Mr Trump, you are no Abraham Lincoln", paraphrasing a LLoyd Bentsen quote directed at Dan Quayle, when Quayle tried to compare himself to JFK.

I am sure there are others that would be equally effective.

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Three responses from previous debates that will work against Trump: (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2020 OP
Remember when Gore debated Quayle and Stockdale? Mike 03 Aug 2020 #1
That would work. kentuck Aug 2020 #3
Biden should say, "I knew Abraham Lincoln... pamela Aug 2020 #2
Not based on any of those classics chriscan64 Aug 2020 #4
"What's the nuclear triad?" JHB Aug 2020 #5
None of those will be effective. JHB Aug 2020 #6
If he brings up Abe Lincoln... kentuck Aug 2020 #7
Depends on how he brings Abe up, and there's too many ways to reply... JHB Aug 2020 #8
Better for Joe to just destroy him with display of knowledge. radius777 Aug 2020 #9
I still think, Bayard Aug 2020 #10

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Remember when Gore debated Quayle and Stockdale?
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:10 AM
Aug 2020

A good comeback for ridiculing someone for taking credit for someone else's accomplishment:

Gore: (I can't recall exactly, but it was something like this: ) Your administration taking credit for the fall of the Soviet Union is like a rooster taking credit for the sunrise.

I always loved that one.

You could fill it in like this: Trump taking credit for the Obama economy is like a rooster taking credit for the sunrise.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
2. Biden should say, "I knew Abraham Lincoln...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:18 AM
Aug 2020

...Abraham Lincoln was my friend. You, sir, are no Abraham Lincoln. "

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
4. Not based on any of those classics
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

but I would ask, "Based on what evidence?" or "Which people are saying?". In general, make him go into detail about the underpinnings of his assertions. There are none. If he doesn't like something, it is a "disaster" without rationale about why it is so.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
6. None of those will be effective.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

The ones that will be effective are the ones that nonchalantly treat him as a nobody. Nobody to take seriously, nobody to fear.

Taking the sort of things he did at the debates with Hillary, and without any comment on how she handled them, the thought that came to my mind (from my comfortable, under-no-pressure chair) were...

When he loomed: "Donnie, if you're going to stand back there huffing and puffing...
... could you at least do it a little closer? I think my jacket has a wrinkle that needs steaming out."


For some of his other antics: briefly pause in the middle of your talk, nonchalantly turn toward him and in a calm, curious voice ask "Donnie, what are you doing to that chair?" And then, without even waiting for an answer, turn back and pick up where you left off.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
8. Depends on how he brings Abe up, and there's too many ways to reply...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 10:03 AM
Aug 2020

...for Joe to use that I don't see what's advantageous in using recycled quips. That just plays into their framing of Joe as some kind of teetering relic from the past.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
9. Better for Joe to just destroy him with display of knowledge.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

Biden is an expert in foreign affairs and many other topics, and can easily just rough him up and slap him around, especially when it comes to the failed covid response.

Trump is an idiot who tweets and watches Fox news and has a shallow understanding of things.

Bayard

(22,059 posts)
10. I still think,
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 11:04 AM
Aug 2020

trump will find some way to weasel out of any debates. He knows he will look bad. Or, at least his handlers do.

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