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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Trump Department of "Justice" says the guy in Kenosha shot by a cop in the back...
"...Had a knife."
I have a knife with me almost all the time too.
One of these small Swiss Army types, has a knife, nail file, and scissors.
Does that mean I should be shot in the back?
Oops, forgot, I'm white. "Oh that's different!"
RDANGELO
(3,434 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)He had a wrench and screwdrivers in his car too most likely. That would have been the excuse had they not found a knife.
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)brush
(53,840 posts)to plant weapons near or on victims to justify their shootings/killings.
sop
(10,239 posts)would have been enough to make the cop fear for his life. And, in the absence of any potential offensive weapons of handheld electronic devices, merely failing to comply would justify any shooting-by-cop.
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)My question is will the cops pay any price for allowing, and apparently encouraging, a 17 year old to carry a gun around after curfew?
brush
(53,840 posts)in the guy's car who he just tried to murder? Rogue cops plant guns and knives on victims all the times.
And how could he possibly know the guy allegedly had a knife under his car mat while he pumped seven bullets into his back?
I'm not buying it.
magicarpet
(14,165 posts)... another deadly weapon on him doncha know...
Nevilledog
(51,186 posts)Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)demosincebirth
(12,542 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)However the gas was inaccessible in the gas tank and a wiping rag was in his tool kit.
What horseshit...
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)But, he was thinking about using a Molotov!
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)It was not on his person and he never reached for it.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)he was going after the knife. So they hadda shoot him. Get it? They had no choice.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)afraid for kids and he could have had a gun in his car.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... retain him physically.
That makes no sense seeing he was walking away from them, they had an oppertunity to tackle him and arrest him if he was a threat big enough to point a gun at him.
Such a bad senseless shooting
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)point, it looked like the police were acting somewhat responsibly. Then, it all went to crud.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,787 posts)This was attempted murder.
This also becomes a Civil Rights case because I doubt seriously Jacob Blake was NOT read his Miranda Rights when grabbed then shot 7 times in the back. He was NOT handcuffed. He was shot nearly dead. Should he survive, Jacob Blake will present a totally different story that will cause Police Force to be reformed, not defunded. Reform is so badly needed.
I stand by my opinion when I stated this in a previous post..... "The problem is not funding, but HOW police are being trained and HOW they serve."
EarlG
(21,966 posts)Good job they were able to shoot him in the back seven times before he was able to drive home and get them.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Able to stab someone behind him with his back turned?
When the person he would be assaulting is backed up by other officers with guns - some drawn?
The mention of a knife strikes me as an attempt to mute the outrage of what was done here.
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)An assisted opening jack knife & a Swiss Army knife.
And, they're not in my car! They're in my pocket!
This guy's knife was in the car.
They'll end up claiming it was in his hand, but he drooped it when shot.
That may or may not be true.
But, these excuse makers aren't going to have an easy time explaining why a knife was such a threat when Tue guy was facing away from the shooter!
How much of a threat could a guy be when he's facing the other way?
Is he the reincarnation of Bruce Lee?
PatSeg
(47,577 posts)I've carried a pocket knife in my purse or pocket for years. It comes in very handy. I usually have a Leatherman in my purse as well.
C_U_L8R
(45,019 posts)The 'right' is so wound up in its own hateful bullshit they can't even see the nonsense they're spouting.
Maeve
(42,288 posts)Has since his youth; it is a tool, not a weapon.
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)Wonder if thats what they meant.
Whiskeytide
(4,462 posts)... that Blake guy told the cops he was going to get his gun out of the car and kill all you Mutherfuckers. That was why they shot him.
I cant find any reputable reporting of that, and I suspect wed be hearing it from many sources if it were true. Sooner or later well see body cam footage, and Im looking forward to getting back to him then.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... the police in this case were straight assholes.
Bettie
(16,122 posts)IOWA CITY, IOWA City and law enforcement leaders in Kenosha, Wisconsin, unanimously endorsed the use of body cameras in 2017 as a way to increase police accountability and collect evidence at scenes of domestic violence, among other benefits.
But since then, they have balked at the price tag, raised policy concerns and put off implementation. The delays meant that officers who were on the scene of Sundays shooting of Jacob Blake while responding to a domestic call were not equipped with technology that could give their perspective on an incident that has roiled the nation.
Instead, the public has only seen video captured by a neighbor that shows one or more officers shooting Blake, 29, in the back several times as the Black man walked away from them, opened his SUVs driver-side door and leaned into the vehicle. It doesnt show what happened before or after the shooting like body camera footage would.
More at link, however, a huge problem with body cameras is that cops often "forget" to turn them on or they turn them off.