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MomInTheCrowd

(339 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:20 PM Aug 2020

Ben Jealous raised a red flag

Ben Jealous gave a grave warning on the Thom Hartmann show this morning. He said the Biden campaign is being greatly outspent in reaching Hispanic voters through multiple outlets, including FaceBook.

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Ben Jealous raised a red flag (Original Post) MomInTheCrowd Aug 2020 OP
* sigh * live love laugh Aug 2020 #1
you already posted this stillcool Aug 2020 #2
All of the polls show that Trump is performing at 2016 levels with Hispanics BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #3
Actually a lot of Cuban-Americans are leaving the GOP FakeNoose Aug 2020 #43
Amy Walter at Cook report had an in-depth analysis comparing 2016 grantcart Aug 2020 #54
Latinx are going to vote for the cruel pustule who puts Latinx kids in cages? brush Aug 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #6
Seventy some percent of Latinx voted blue in 2106. With trump's record... brush Aug 2020 #7
I was wrong. I will remove my post Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #10
I've got Latinos for Trump signs in my neighborhood LeftInTX Aug 2020 #9
See post 7. This is a Dem web site. Why are you posting... brush Aug 2020 #11
I live with this crap LeftInTX Aug 2020 #20
I do vote reg, phone banking. And in the last 3 presidential... brush Aug 2020 #21
I'm still going door to door LeftInTX Aug 2020 #25
Hats off to you. You're going above and beyond the call. brush Aug 2020 #26
Curious-- have you confirmed those signs are displayed on Latinx homes? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2020 #33
Yes LeftInTX Aug 2020 #34
That's depressing. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2020 #35
His Latinos for Trump signs were stolen LeftInTX Aug 2020 #60
about 30 percent yes qazplm135 Aug 2020 #12
See post 7, and emphasis the positive. This is a pro-Dem site... brush Aug 2020 #14
I emphasize reality qazplm135 Aug 2020 #17
Spending is the wrong metric jmbar2 Aug 2020 #5
I Agree --also the Mailings/Leaflets and Random Telephone Calls Irritate People as Much as Help Stallion Aug 2020 #22
True they can motivate Biden voters to actually get to the polls. Captain Zero Aug 2020 #59
почему ты здесь orwell Aug 2020 #8
The woman from Voto Latino who is a frequent guest on MSNBC Sogo Aug 2020 #13
That's what I'm talking about. This OP is way too negative. brush Aug 2020 #15
stop it qazplm135 Aug 2020 #18
Emphasis the positive. Leave scaring people to the repug. brush Aug 2020 #19
how is it "scaring?" qazplm135 Aug 2020 #27
Now you're getting it. Emphasis the positive 70%. brush Aug 2020 #28
lol qazplm135 Aug 2020 #29
No need for insults. I'm an optimist. And before didn't you talk about the 30% for trump? brush Aug 2020 #30
before qazplm135 Aug 2020 #31
Give it a rest. Just learn to be positive to help get out the vote. brush Aug 2020 #32
yawn qazplm135 Aug 2020 #36
Like what exactly. I myself have phone banked, voter reg, data entry... brush Aug 2020 #37
you should have been done qazplm135 Aug 2020 #38
Just as I thought, you don't do anything. brush Aug 2020 #39
I don't do anything qazplm135 Aug 2020 #40
Hahahahahaha! If you did you'd talk about it. brush Aug 2020 #41
nah, YOU'D talk about it qazplm135 Aug 2020 #42
It's called talking the talk and walking the walk. Try it sometime. brush Aug 2020 #44
first of all qazplm135 Aug 2020 #45
That's the best you can do? Guess that's more than what you do for the party. brush Aug 2020 #46
yes qazplm135 Aug 2020 #48
Ok, I admit I said I was out, but you're such a great set-man man. brush Aug 2020 #49
And you are still going qazplm135 Aug 2020 #50
I know. I can't help myself. You make it so easy. brush Aug 2020 #52
I know you can't help yourself qazplm135 Aug 2020 #55
Come to South Texas and talk to voters. LeftInTX Aug 2020 #23
I already answered you in post 21. brush Aug 2020 #24
Negativity gets us out to vote much more Polybius Aug 2020 #56
What's destructive BainsBane Aug 2020 #57
Maria Teresa Kumar of Voto Latino. nt oasis Aug 2020 #53
Hartmann still cashing RT (Rus Prop) checks? NightWatcher Aug 2020 #16
Money alone is not everything treestar Aug 2020 #47
I doubt that spending more money on ads will have much influence on any Hispanic voter StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #51
All the more reason to volunteer to phone bank BainsBane Aug 2020 #58

live love laugh

(16,378 posts)
1. * sigh *
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

Tragic that people continue to vote against their own interests.

Tragic that it all boils down to $$$ and we cannot buy our way out of this hellhole.

BannonsLiver

(20,570 posts)
3. All of the polls show that Trump is performing at 2016 levels with Hispanics
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:27 PM
Aug 2020

Whether or not he’s being outspent doesn’t seem to matter much.

FakeNoose

(41,564 posts)
43. Actually a lot of Cuban-Americans are leaving the GOP
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:10 PM
Aug 2020

Since Chump took over in 2016, the Cubans living (mostly) in Florida have seen a lot of reasons to NOT vote for him. Some have left the Party for good, others have decided they won't vote this time. This Cuban-American bloc has been voting solidly Republican since before the Southern racists came in. They're leaving, and the Puerto Ricans and Mexicans have already left.

What's left of the Latinx vote? Not sure.



grantcart

(53,061 posts)
54. Amy Walter at Cook report had an in-depth analysis comparing 2016
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 11:38 PM
Aug 2020

Actual votes and current polling that shows Trump has had virtually no increase in support except among Latinos where he moved from 28 to 35%, probably gaining among non central American/Mexican evangelicals.

Response to brush (Reply #4)

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
7. Seventy some percent of Latinx voted blue in 2106. With trump's record...
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:46 PM
Aug 2020

I'd bet even more will vote blue in Nov. You know this as well as I do. trump has been a disaster to the Latinx community.

LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
20. I live with this crap
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:41 PM
Aug 2020

I'm the Democratic Precinct Chair.
I deal with all the voters here. My precinct voted 58% for Trump.
I am not lying.

Why is it Pro-Trump if I am the Democratic Precinct Chair?
It is reality.
Do you wanna win in November or put your head in the sand?
Come down here and talk to voters!

What are you doing for Biden????

Do you live in a Latinx community?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
21. I do vote reg, phone banking. And in the last 3 presidential...
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:46 PM
Aug 2020

cycles, canvassing. Of course we're not doing that now because of covid. Also was a precinct captain for Obama so you're talking to a long time Dem worker. I feel for you in such a red district. I don't like to see info that makes people think what's the use though.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
33. Curious-- have you confirmed those signs are displayed on Latinx homes?
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:09 PM
Aug 2020

I just keep thinking of all those pictures we've seen posted on DU of white people wearing Blacks for Trump T-shirts and such.

LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
34. Yes
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:13 PM
Aug 2020

That was the first thing I did.

In 2018, I looked at earlier voters. I anxiously clivked

LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
60. His Latinos for Trump signs were stolen
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:56 PM
Aug 2020

Probably by an 18 yo, who is overwhelmed by all the Trump signs. He's around 70 yo. He is quite able bodied though and is always redoing his yard and flying Marine flags etc. So he's not a frail senior citizen.

Protest, my ass..

Image is from Nextdoor. Recognized his name from the voter roles right away.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. See post 7, and emphasis the positive. This is a pro-Dem site...
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

for God's sake. After trump has caged Latinx kids and called Latinx criminals and prostitutes I doubt he'll get as many votes from that community this time.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
17. I emphasize reality
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:37 PM
Aug 2020

all current polling shows the numbers roughly similar to last time. Trump MIGHT lose a couple of percentage points, but there is no indication of a massive change.

jmbar2

(7,976 posts)
5. Spending is the wrong metric
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:30 PM
Aug 2020

The election-industrial complex likes us to believe that it's all about the money. In this election, it's all about turnout. No one is going to change their mind because of a TV ad.



Stallion

(6,642 posts)
22. I Agree --also the Mailings/Leaflets and Random Telephone Calls Irritate People as Much as Help
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:47 PM
Aug 2020

Sogo

(7,187 posts)
13. The woman from Voto Latino who is a frequent guest on MSNBC
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

said recently that they have registered 250,000 new voters; this time last election, they had registered 1200.


 

brush

(61,033 posts)
15. That's what I'm talking about. This OP is way too negative.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:28 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe should be deleted as this is a site that promotes Democrats.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
18. stop it
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:38 PM
Aug 2020

talking about what folks think the percentages will be in a manner which you disagree with is not attacking Democrats.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
27. how is it "scaring?"
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 04:02 PM
Aug 2020

You seem to be the only one "scared."

I'm not "scared" about getting 70 percent of the Hispanic vote like last time.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
28. Now you're getting it. Emphasis the positive 70%.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 04:09 PM
Aug 2020

That's all I'm saying, instead of featuring the negative which may make some feel like what's the use, it's hopeless.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
29. lol
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 04:52 PM
Aug 2020

lame response. I didn't do anything different from before.
Please take your nervous energy somewhere else.
Thanks.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
30. No need for insults. I'm an optimist. And before didn't you talk about the 30% for trump?
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 06:47 PM
Aug 2020

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
31. before
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:05 PM
Aug 2020

I said both...apparently, just seeing 30 sent you into a flight of nervousness.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
36. yawn
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:28 PM
Aug 2020

unlike you, I spend my time doing things to win, not whining on a message board because I'm scared.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
37. Like what exactly. I myself have phone banked, voter reg, data entry...
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:32 PM
Aug 2020

and canvassed for the last three presidential cycles. Was a precinct captain for Obama and donate what I can afford regularly—a long-time Dem worker in other words. I don't just talk the talk.

I help get out the vote. Hope you do the same.

Now enough of this, I'm done.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
38. you should have been done
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:53 PM
Aug 2020

from the start.

Get back to work then and stop policing other people because you don't think they are positive enough for you to not be scared.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
40. I don't do anything
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 07:58 PM
Aug 2020

because I don't deign to respond to a yahoo on a message board? LOL

Let me clue you in to something, I don't care what you think. I also don't really give much credence to claims made on an internet message board to begin with.

I'll start worrying about matching bonafides with you or anyone else about two days after never.

I do plenty, I don't need to tout it.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
42. nah, YOU'D talk about it
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:08 PM
Aug 2020

but see your validation doesn't mean anything to me.

I don't talk. You do.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
44. It's called talking the talk and walking the walk. Try it sometime.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:11 PM
Aug 2020

Now get off my lawn.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
45. first of all
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:15 PM
Aug 2020

everything here is talk.

second of all, not your lawn.

third of all, you're ridiculous.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
48. yes
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

says the guy who was "out" ten posts ago.

You've definitely got the talk part down.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
49. Ok, I admit I said I was out, but you're such a great set-man man.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 09:58 PM
Aug 2020

I'll be here all week (imagine a rim shot sound right here).

LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
23. Come to South Texas and talk to voters.
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:50 PM
Aug 2020

Roll your sleeves up and get to work.
Put your money where your mouth is:
Me: $55 - 4 by 8 sign for.my fence
$150 -40 Biden Harris yard signs. Shipment arriving at noon tomorrow. I hand these out.

Polybius

(21,886 posts)
56. Negativity gets us out to vote much more
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 01:13 AM
Aug 2020

In 2016, there were way too many snark "thank you for your concern" replies to anyone who suggested that it would be close. Too many thought we had it an the bag. We must all vote and get people who never vote to vote. I've gotten some of my friend's kids to register, all of whom are 18-21ish.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
57. What's destructive
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 02:18 AM
Aug 2020

Is pretending this election is in the bag. Biden is polling lower than Clinton did in Battleground states. We have to work hard for every single vote. Pretending voters think like we do about Trump is a serious mistake. In my state of MN, traditionally a blue state, Trump and Biden are statistically tied. There seems to be a backlash due to the riots, because Wisconsin has also moved toward Trump. The solution is not to blame people who point out the challenges facing us but to volunteer to phone bank and do everything you can to get Biden elected. https://joebiden.com/take-action/#
Close the request for money, and you'll see search fields to find phone banks in your area. If you're already doing this, fantastic.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
16. Hartmann still cashing RT (Rus Prop) checks?
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 02:29 PM
Aug 2020

I'm going to pass on his show and what he says. He payed a role (no matter how small) in the last election and was a recipient of RT funds and even had a show.

If ANYONE (Brown, Black....) needs to be convinced that Biden supports them, they haven't been paying attention.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. Money alone is not everything
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 08:24 PM
Aug 2020

And Biden doesn't seem to need money ; he's already known. Look at all the states that he won where he didn't spend a dime.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
51. I doubt that spending more money on ads will have much influence on any Hispanic voter
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 11:29 PM
Aug 2020

who still is thinking about voting for Trump.

Better to focus the resources on people with sense.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
58. All the more reason to volunteer to phone bank
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 02:19 AM
Aug 2020
https://joebiden.com/take-action/#
Close the request for money, and you'll see search fields to find phone banks in your area. They are virtual, so you make the calls from home.
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