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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMassachusetts Poll-Biden 69% Trump 31%
https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/massachusetts-2020-senator-markey-takes-lead-in-senate-primary-over-congressman-kennedyI only post it for contrast. HRC won it by 28. Joe is winning it by 38. If we use 2016 as a benchmark that's consistent with a 12 point nat'l lead.
LisaL
(47,470 posts)Then we all could relax and take it easy.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,942 posts)I grew up idolizing his grand uncles, especially John and Bobby.
druidity33
(6,927 posts)is an asshole. Quite frankly he has absolutely NO business challenging Markey. Markey has been a progressive icon for decades. He's a co-author of the GND fer cryin out loud. This "Kennedy kid" is not his forefathers (or foreuncles). Give him a decade to season and find his fire. Then maybe he'll get my vote.
radius777
(3,921 posts)Joe is much better and has more PoC support, and represents generational change.
Markey may win it due to white progressives, who are only behind him because they want that seat open for a Bernie-type candidate after Markey is gone (likely will retire in 6 years). If a Kennedy were to get it they know he'd be there for a long time.
druidity33
(6,927 posts)Ever met either of those guys? Ever called Markey's office and talked to his staffers? How many bills has Sen Markey authored? Christ, the guy has had his hands on every Progressive bill to come out of the House for the last 25 years. He's authored hundreds of really successful legislative efforts. Give me one god damned thing this Kennedy kid is good for other than his name and his youth. More PoC support? Really? Who says? For disclosure, i don't work for anyone's campaign and am not a volunteer for Markey, though i am a constituent. Do you have any disclosures to make?
PatSeg
(53,290 posts)but I can't see any good reason to primary Markey. Kennedy could spend a couple more terms in congress and get some more experience and maturity. Markey didn't deserve this. He's been a good public servant for his constituents and a great progressive voice for Democrats.
Personally, I wouldn't vote for someone because of a family name. I vote for the individual.
SWBTATTReg
(26,347 posts)pile up, along w/ the constantly increasing death count from the coronavirus. Hard to twist words around w/ a death count that is increasing everyday, but I'm sure that trump and the idiot republicans will try. It's somewhat ironic, considering that a lot of the states that they represent are now experiencing some pretty severe outbreaks of the CV, due to their initial and sloppy efforts to rein in CV outbreaks.
M_Demo_M
(160 posts)Trump campaign touts ... "We're ahead in Massachusetts!"
PCIntern
(28,492 posts)Just kidding. Sort of.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,472 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)under a deeply twisted narcissist would look like.
We are going to win this.
LonePirate
(14,376 posts)He's also likely to rack up 20+ point wins in IL, OR, WA and several smaller states like CT, DC, HI, RI and VT. Double digit wins are very likely in CO, ME, NJ, NM, VA and possibly MI and MN as well. He's almost certain to improve on Clinton's margin practically everywhere else. The popular vote is not going to be close at all. He could easily double Clinton's 3M popular vote margin and might even triple it.
The question will be if enough of the +/- 5 pt states tip his way in the electoral college. As a country, we better hope they do.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)no matter what popular-vote margin they add to. It's the electoral college.
Biden could win by 51-49 in Massachusetts: he'd still get their electoral votes. He could lose 49.8 to 50.2 in Wisconsin and lose all theirs.
I just hope Biden runs up the votes in places likeyou guessed itKenosha County, Wisconsin. In 2016 Trump won it by a measly 238 votes: 36,037 to 35,799.
I don't want to be a conspiracist, and perhaps this is all just SNAFU: but sometimes I wonder if Kenosha was instigated as yet another ploy to secure this kind of razor-thin margin in a small Wisconsin county. After all, that's how he did it last time. Ok, somebody slap me; I'm getting paranoid.
lpbk2713
(43,285 posts)And he's taking the GOP with him.