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Riots happening in America while a Republican is in office and somehow this is actually a positive for them, and if a Democrat was in office I think it would be a negative to a Democratic President
Also, god forbid if we had something happen like a 911 I can see the being turned into a positive for a Republican POTUS....it would be a rallying around the flag movement and any criticism would be met as being anti-American, however if an event like that happened under a Democratic POTUS the narrative would be that they didnt keep us safe
How do the Republicans get away with this crap...whatever the events they turn it into a plus or them
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)with the help of the MSM.
NCDem47
(2,264 posts)Republicans are effective at fast and first framing of issues. They all get on the page for talking points and build critical mass. They also have developed the messaging apparatus that their base goes to. Doesnt make them right though.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)We are terrible with messaging....either we let them say shit without responding or responding too late because people have already informed an opinion....or if we do respond in time we speak to intelligently for people to understand
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Biden went from leading Trump by just four nationally to nearly nine-points during the civil unrest earlier this summer. His numbers are already going back up up beyond the 7 he was before the current unrest.
There is no evidence this is helping Trump. Plenty of evidence it's hurting, tho.
doc03
(35,539 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,134 posts)It's all built on lies.
pwb
(11,400 posts)The media gets money from us subscribing, they get ad money from politicians, advertising money from corporations, Money from every angle leans most media, puke slanted. IMO.
BusyBeingBest
(8,060 posts)Plenty of dumbshit hooligans and plants/provocators pitching in to help.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's why Democrats are always in "disarray," even when they're unanimously (or nearly so) on the same page. It's why Republicans are presenting a totally united front, even when McConnell is sitting on legislation that he knows would pass, just not with a majority of Republican votes.
And yeah, it's bullshit.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)the destroyers. This was just recently posted here, by Wicked Blue https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016267208
How to Fight Fascism From a Position of Strength
By George Lakey, originally published by Waging Nonviolence
February 22, 2019
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Right-wing extremists have two main strategies for public actions. One is to set up situations where they can play the victim and increase sympathetic interest in their cause, or at least to polarize and confuse the issues something Richard Spencer has done on college campuses.
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The other favorite tactic of right-wing extremists is to threaten and use violence to increase the fear level of their opponents. Symbols are less costly than actually injuring and killing, and so they like to use symbols like clubs, tiki torches, burning crosses, or dressing in sheets or military-style uniforms. By getting there first, they set the tone, but they dont win just by doing that. Their victory comes when their opponents respond in a like manner and try to out-intimidate the intimidators.
The threat of counter-violence reinforces the action logic of the fascists: we are the framers of this contest, and our opponents concede by following our lead. The confrontation has become a contest about who is best able to scare the other side into changing their behavior.
Not only have the right-wing extremists succeeded in getting progressives to copy their tactics, but the nature of the tactics used by both sides drain the contest of its ideological content. Its violence vs. violence fear vs. fear. Thats why Donald Trump and others could claim that, in Charlottesville, both sides were to blame. In Germany and Italy in the 1920s, the bystanders to street fighting between fascists and leftists came to the view that what was needed was a strong state to stop the violence. (And we know who the economic elite in both countries chose to lead the state: Hitler and Mussolini!)