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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK, tell me ONE great thing any Republican Administration did in our country's history. Just one.
Under Democratic administrations we:
Won WWII
Went to the moon
Established major civil rights legislation
Established Social Security
Established Medicare and Medicaid
I'm just ticking these off and wondering why this year's election seems difficult for Democrats.
And just what the hell did "small government Republicans" ever do for ANYBODY (except already rich people)?
Just my rant after watching Brooks and Shields tonight. I've been disgusted and angry all day today since Trump just outTrumped himself with me last night or whenever (it doesn't take much).
Gotta be careful with this race thing...the march in Washington is "great" but ya gotta be careful, Dems. Can't look angry, nononono...some people said nasty things to Rand Paul last night, tut tut. SO WHAT???
I've been MAD AS HELL all day. Poor hubby had to listen to my rant after Brooks and Shields tonight. I got the feeling that we Dems and Joe Biden were being given a lecture in not getting so happy that Dems are doing well and Trump is continuing to be a real shithead. But WATCH OUT Dems! Don't be so sure of yourself you're gonna win this thing! NOT ONCE was even "possible" election cheating by the pukes mentioned. NOT ONCE!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(129,720 posts)Nixon approved the creation of the EPA.
That's all I've got.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)for them all along?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(129,720 posts)Marthe48
(22,855 posts)and that really helped clinch the passage of EPA
https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/63
H2O Man
(78,860 posts)the opening of Vine Delotia's classic, "We Talk, You Listen." He noted that Indian people had never even thought about making a flaming river.
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)Industry didn't think about consequences then. We are making progress. Corporations think of consequences as an afterthought. Maybe someday, they'll think of consequences before they begin.
H2O Man
(78,860 posts)in Delaware County, NY, where some genius decided was a prime area to dump toxic industrials wastes. After initially dumping directly into the small lake, he moved in about a hundred yards away. Eventually, it became a 130-acre Superfund Site. One afternoon, a fellow driving by tossed his cigarrette butt out the window. It landed in the lake, and the surface of the lake caught on fire. Amazing.
rickford66
(6,053 posts)I believe it was at the direction of the Army. He used this experience, plus seeing the German Autobahn, as the reason to build the Interstate Highway System.
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)I learned that in grade school, and after all this time, hope the right number stuck in my head.
My family drove between Cleveland and S.E Ohio all through the 60's, through the construction of I77. When we first started taking the trip, it took 6 hours to get from just south of Cleveland to Monroe County. Now, it takes about 2.5 hours.
Later, we would drive from Ohio to Myrtle Beach over I77 through WV, and it took years for them to build that road.
Ron Green
(9,867 posts)suburban development and urban highways, is one of the worst events in the history of this country. The car-centric world is so much a part of our culture that its almost impossible to discuss it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)However, the way the infrastructure was designed and sited - for example, going almost exclusively through poorer, minority neighborhoods, thereby destroying and cutting off entire communities and, as you noted, creating it with only automobiles in mind - was the problem.
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)n/t
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)The Democratic Party was the slave party in those days, nothing like the Dem Party of the 20th century and the 21st so far.
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)nixon was in the White House when we landed on the moon.
I know that the Space Race was underway many many years before nixon.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)I detested Nixon. I realize he pales in comparison to Trump (so does Bush, who I thought was a war criminal). but even they didn't fleece us, rob us, strip us.
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)The Dems adopted a civil rights plank in the mid 40's (or so) and alienated the dixiecrats, and as time went on, other segments of American voters. Seems to me that the parties have both done a 180 since I was young.
Proud liberal 80
(4,392 posts)Lincoln and TR did great things, but thats when the parties were flipped ideologically. Eisenhowers freeway system imitative was great and I believe without looking it up, he sent the national guard down south to protect black students after the brown vs board education decision
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)Proud liberal 80
(4,392 posts)But I like the labels liberals vs conservatives over Dems vs Reps.....all of the Dems of the 19 century sucked and would be Republicans now (and the current Republican Party act like we have to claim them), and even up to FDRs time the Republicans were better than the Dems...of course things changed because of Trumans, JFKs, and LBJ stance on race
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)been clearer. I was talking about the 20th and 21st centuries.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Of course, as GOPpers like to remind us all, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. Unfortunately, they have to dishonor that achievement every day.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)suprme Court decisions on race. And that was when a lot of southern Dems became repukes, no surprise there.
PufPuf23
(9,724 posts)TR was a trust buster (what we need now among so many other issues).
TR Roosevelt established the United States Forest Service, signed into law the creation of five National Parks, and signed the 1906 Antiquities Act, under which he proclaimed 18 new U.S. National Monuments. He also established the first 51 bird reserves, four game preserves, and 150 National Forests. The area of the United States that he placed under public protection totals approximately 230 million acres (930,000 square kilometers).
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)Thats one.
DFW
(59,875 posts)That was Teddy Roosevelt. Establishing the National Park System was truly revolutionary. Can you imagine what places like the Grand Canyon, Crater Lake, Bryce Canyon, Zion, the Everglades, Cape Cod National Seashore, Big Bend, Yosemite, Acadia, Rocky Mountain NP, Glacier, Yellowstone, and SOOOO many others would be if they had all been open to development between then and now?
Add to that one of the greatest quotes from any American President of the 20th century:
To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
Show that to any Republican today, and they'll tell you it must have been said by a "kommanist." Nope, just an intelligent, patriotic Republican--an extinct species.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)DFW
(59,875 posts)If anyone were to come to him and say they want to start an open pit mine in Yellowstone National Park, his response would probably be, "so what's stopping you?"
Marthe48
(22,855 posts)to keep him under wraps. Then McKinley was assassinated and TR soared as a progressive. He also ran for president representing the Bull Moose party.
Wednesdays
(21,903 posts)was the Progressive Party!
Gives you an idea of TR's political philosophy. The GOP regulars hated him.
irisblue
(37,048 posts)Source--https://www.ushistory.org/us//43b.asp
And yeah 100 +yrs ago is a freaking reach
DeminPennswoods
(17,335 posts)signed the Clean Water Act and proposed SSI, which Congress passed. His admin also implemented the first affirmative action plan and extended the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)ananda
(34,595 posts)Sigh
DeminPennswoods
(17,335 posts)al bupp
(2,540 posts)Quoting Wikipedia:
ananda
(34,595 posts)And Teddy Roosevelt was wonderful on conservation.
That's all I can think of right now.
rurallib
(64,607 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,119 posts)The codification of those moves were incomplete during his terms, but he did cause a lot of concentrated money to be broken down.
Thekaspervote
(35,816 posts)CTyankee
(67,906 posts)unblock
(56,071 posts)Was Nixon involved somehow?
anamnua
(1,498 posts)Albeit temporarily. Hard to believe it but back in those days the Repubs were the goodies and the Dems were the baddies.
anamnua
(1,498 posts)Please don't interpret this as a defence of the Repubs by the way!
still_one
(98,883 posts)accomplished in the last three and three quarter years?
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)The interstate highway system was started in his administration.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)Germany, after all the destruction of WW2. He must have seen the Interstate highway system as the destiny of the country, in terms of its greatness. He knew that great things were required to be considered a great leader and he strove for it.
Johonny
(25,748 posts)His son passed Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (GINA) 2008. Both were probably good things. Bush also did the prescription Drugs thing which laid a crappy framework that has slowly improved under the ACA, but still isn't great. There was also his work on Malaria in Africa.
Reagan did some gun control. Almost any good Reagan did was overwhelmed by all the historic mistakes we're still paying for.
I was looking for things in the modern GOP as opposed to 19th century or Ike-Nixon era when there was a strong liberal-moderate wing of the GOP. In general the two Bushes are so removed from the modern party, they almost seem as foreign as Ike and Nixon. And W wasn't that long ago!
About the only thing I can come up with for Trump ERA Republicans is his modest criminal justice reform and Space Force. Space Force is probably a real stretch at this point but might turn into something useful under a real president.
DavidDvorkin
(20,526 posts)CTyankee
(67,906 posts)Democrat at that time could advocate that and survive politically.
Facing reality is, I guess, something we can all applaud...yeah...
DavidDvorkin
(20,526 posts)For a Democrat, it would have been political suicide.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)how "woke" is that...
DavidDvorkin
(20,526 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,700 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)And that Ronald Reagan erased all the positives.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)did, after the ideas behind them had been "normalized" to the extent that they could safely come out of their caves to support them.
Yeah, I'm in a bad mood.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)CTyankee
(67,906 posts)people. We have friends, very liberal Dems, from Kenosha. It's so personal to him and to our friends, still in WI but now retired in Door County. They must be abject.
I am surprised how demoralizing this has been to me (I know, "poor me" and that's making me angry too...).
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)good and positive in our country.
tblue37
(68,340 posts)CTyankee
(67,906 posts)of realization?
Autumn
(48,866 posts)That was one good thing.
CTyankee
(67,906 posts)he couldn't have seen a Trump presidency coming...
Autumn
(48,866 posts)hardluck
(765 posts)The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, defeating the South in the Civil War. I mean seriously. I get your point but lets not be blind to history.
In It to Win It
(12,519 posts)as we know it today which started in like the 60s and 70s.
