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I don't think they have to do it; we're doing it to ourselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #1
The difference is night and day compared to the Republicans Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #6
I don't panic over the election, I'm in a panic about the expected ratfucking. abqtommy Aug 2020 #2
+++ still_one Aug 2020 #7
Funnily enough, Trump has done more to cure Dem voters of complacency OnDoutside Aug 2020 #3
I agree, he has done more to unite the Democrats than ever before still_one Aug 2020 #8
This.... and a lots of republicans are joining us to defeat this monster Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #10
100% agree. I suspect we will see more and more come out over the OnDoutside Aug 2020 #32
There is a big difference between panic and anxiety. Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #4
A lot has to do with the overt strategy by the republicans to suppress the votes. The concern still_one Aug 2020 #5
I don't see anyone in a total panic. KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #9
Yes, very questionable. brush Aug 2020 #20
You can head over to reddit politics Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #22
Correct, and if you do that you're giving away your power and ability to act..don't!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #28
So one forum on one website ... KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #33
Provode some citations of them driving that narrative above and beyond Trump's actions for us to see TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #11
I'm asking if people think they are Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #13
What caused this concern, as is seems to fringe on an entry-level conspiracy theory without it? TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #16
Some people are already in total panic without anyone wanting them to be in such state. LisaL Aug 2020 #12
WTF. Joe does Not deal in panic. Or fear. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #14
Not sure what the goal of this thread is Hav Aug 2020 #15
You're obvious. n/t demmiblue Aug 2020 #17
Profile-wise, too. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #19
well, if I felt secure that there would not be voter suppression Akacia Aug 2020 #18
Ridiculous. That's simply not true. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #21
I have noticed that Republicans would like us to be Progressive dog Aug 2020 #23
Goodbye Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #24
Where you going? Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #35
I disagree with several of your assumptions PJMcK Aug 2020 #25
Again, an unfounded and unsupported allegation by someone w/ no evidence what-so-ever. SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #26
Delete the thread, ban me Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #34
I know I've been getting a lot of alarmist emails from Dem sources... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #27
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #30
Not in a panic lapfog_1 Aug 2020 #29
I think Democrats and more realize that the protesters are not the problem LakeArenal Aug 2020 #36
Good post misanthrope Aug 2020 #46
Well, let's see. USPS is selectively removing mailboxes and sorting machines. struggle4progress Aug 2020 #31
Who isn't concerned? Panic Is the term. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #39
Little wheel, spin and spin struggle4progress Aug 2020 #44
I'm panicking that anyone could actually believe Susan Rice was trading at 90 Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #37
Where is that "no personal attacks" rule when you need it? Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #41
Man, you all turned on me real fast Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #38
Very nice non apology. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #42
I don't think people accusing me of being a MAGA troll is an answer Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #43
As the election approaches customerserviceguy Aug 2020 #47
I think you're conflating "concern" with "panic" misanthrope Aug 2020 #40
Clearly customerserviceguy Aug 2020 #45
A real answer, thank you Dr. Jack Aug 2020 #48

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
6. The difference is night and day compared to the Republicans
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:12 PM
Aug 2020

Republicans are so insanely confident that the polls are off by 20 or more points that they are joking that Biden should just concede the election now. Meanwhile, the Dems see their candidate up consistently by near double digits and think "oh my fucking God, vote! This is way too close! Anything can happen! Shit shit shit!".

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
3. Funnily enough, Trump has done more to cure Dem voters of complacency
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:08 PM
Aug 2020

than Biden could ever do. With what he is doing with the USPS and vigilantes, I think people are going to be more than focussed on getting the pig out.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
5. A lot has to do with the overt strategy by the republicans to suppress the votes. The concern
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:12 PM
Aug 2020

should be there


KentuckyWoman

(7,401 posts)
9. I don't see anyone in a total panic.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:18 PM
Aug 2020

Not in person and not online. Your post is a complete bafflement.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
22. You can head over to reddit politics
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:37 PM
Aug 2020

Where every other comment is about the US is now a dictatorship and the election will 100% be stolen and all hope is lost

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
11. Provode some citations of them driving that narrative above and beyond Trump's actions for us to see
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

.

Your OP must have been spawned by some events.

Please let us see what they were, instead of fielding some nebulous suspicion with no supporting documentation.

.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
13. I'm asking if people think they are
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:21 PM
Aug 2020

Clearly I don't have proof if I am asking if there is any evidence for it

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
16. What caused this concern, as is seems to fringe on an entry-level conspiracy theory without it?
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
12. Some people are already in total panic without anyone wanting them to be in such state.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:21 PM
Aug 2020

NT

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
14. WTF. Joe does Not deal in panic. Or fear.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:22 PM
Aug 2020

Again I am remind somehow of this:



fear·mon·ger·ing
/ˈfirˌməNGəriNG/
noun
noun: fear-mongering
the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue.
"his campaign for re-election was based on fearmongering and deception"

Hav

(5,969 posts)
15. Not sure what the goal of this thread is
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:23 PM
Aug 2020

First, the stakes are just that high. It doesn't seem hyperbolic anymore to claim that democracy is at stake. Secondly, believing a win is almost guaranteed probably contributed to losing in 2016 with some staying home and idiots voting third party to feel good about themselves.
So there is absolutely nothing wrong about assuming that every single vote counts. I don't see a panic but just looking at how Covid was handled and how the Repubs are acting more and more as if the US is a dictatorship with no checks and balances should be reasons enough to take this very seriously.

Akacia

(651 posts)
18. well, if I felt secure that there would not be voter suppression
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

or hacked vote I would not be concerned at all but..... seems I was overly confident that Hilary would be our next President in 2016 and look what happened. Even though she rightly won the popular vote!

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
23. I have noticed that Republicans would like us to be
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:38 PM
Aug 2020

so panicked that we won't dare vote. Any reasonable person watching Trump and his minions try to destroy our democracy should be a litlle bit panicked.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
25. I disagree with several of your assumptions
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:40 PM
Aug 2020

Do you have an example of "Democratic voters are in a near state of constant panic all of the time?" We just had a sober, intelligent, expressive and communicative national convention where we nominated a powerful team for the General Election. If there was panic, sorry, I missed it.

"Democratic voters are always a bit high strung bunch..." is a ludicrous statement. Once again, show us your evidence, please. Using the two conventions, I saw desperate, screaming, hyperbolic, mis-informed and purposeful lying by the GOP. The Democrats were calm, measured, direct and consistent.

Lastly, what gives you the impression that it's the Biden Team's strategy to keep "the anxiety cranked to 11..."?

Your premise is tremendously flawed and I'm confused about your reasons for posting it.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
26. Again, an unfounded and unsupported allegation by someone w/ no evidence what-so-ever.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:43 PM
Aug 2020

Figures. These people are getting desperate in trying any and all ways to sideline us/get us offtrack, etc. You can smell the stink coming off of them in their desperate efforts at trying any strategies/ploys unsubstantiated claims like this idiotic one. And calling us high strung? Overwhelming stress?

I'd say that they need to pull your post, kick you off. This is a site for democratically minded folks, to engage in friendly chit chat, and not mock others like you're doing here.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
34. Delete the thread, ban me
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020

Throw me in a river. Deport my children. Post my private search history for all to see.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
27. I know I've been getting a lot of alarmist emails from Dem sources...
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:45 PM
Aug 2020

screaming and begging for donations since we are "losing" so badly.



I mostly just delete them and give when and what I can.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
29. Not in a panic
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

however my rule of thumb from before 2016 was that Democrats had to win by 5 % or more in the polling to have a chance at winning due to repuke cheating... but since the era of tRump... that margin is now at least 8% or more.

He just cheats on a grand scale... he has no interest in fixing the virus pandemic because he (or his team) figured out that this could work to his advantage.

This is why he downplays all of the protection measure (social distancing, masks) to his followers... so they will vote in person without regard to their own lives

This is why he falsely makes up stories about mail in ballots being fraudulent.

This is why his hand picked supporter wrecked the post office to prevent mail in ballots from arriving on time to be counted.

This is why his lawyers are bringing lawsuits in Iowa to keep 100,000 likely Democratic voters from using the mail in ballots sent to them (because they were pre-filled out with the name, address, and "pin" number of the voter).

I expect much more...

Plus, it doesn't help that we have protests that turn into riots and property destruction. Yes, I believe that the militias and boogaloo bois are in on creating the late night chaos after a peaceful protest... and I think the police have a hand in this as well... from not policing the rioters to actually encouraging the militias.

It is all part of the plan to turn an 11 point Biden polling lead into another electoral college victory by cheating for tRump.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
36. I think Democrats and more realize that the protesters are not the problem
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:57 PM
Aug 2020

Protests and protestors have rights. It’s not local persons causing riots.

struggle4progress

(126,147 posts)
31. Well, let's see. USPS is selectively removing mailboxes and sorting machines.
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

The Senate has repeatedly refused to act on foreign interference, and the Administration is refusing to brief Congress on foreign interference

The Census has decided not to obtain an accurate count this year, which could impact re-districting

The CDC now advises against testing asymptomatic people, as if testing caused cases

We should be concerned

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
37. I'm panicking that anyone could actually believe Susan Rice was trading at 90
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:57 PM
Aug 2020

That is Republican caliber of thought

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
47. As the election approaches
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:06 PM
Aug 2020

people start getting a bit paranoid about new posters here, I've seen this before. I wish to sincerely welcome you.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
40. I think you're conflating "concern" with "panic"
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 05:58 PM
Aug 2020

"Concern" can manifest in many ways other than "panic."

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
45. Clearly
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:04 PM
Aug 2020

the campaign wants us to be motivated, if that sometimes expresses itself as a panicky feeling, then so be it. I think a lot of us were (and may still be) shellshocked over the way things turned out in 2016.

You know that old saying, there are two ways to run for office, unopposed or scared.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
48. A real answer, thank you
Sat Aug 29, 2020, 06:08 PM
Aug 2020

I'm just wondering if the campaign wants people to worry about polls so they don't get complacent or maybe they don't. I don't see how that is a controversial question or if it would even be a bad idea to not try and sooth Dem voters by coming out and saying "it's ok, we are doing great, don't worry about it" to any Dem voter who is worried about the outcome of the election.

But I guess I sound like a MAGA head trump troll so I guess I'll just move on for the evening.

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