What does Putin have on Michael Moore, and the American Apocalypse

[maxrandb]

So, I see that Michael Moore is out again claiming Donnie Shit for Brains has "momentum".

Cult leaders do tend to have "momentum" among their cult members.

You want to see "momentum" Michael? Just take a look at the followers of Jim Jones. That was some fucking momentum, I tell you.

I'm trying to figure out the point of this "opinion" from the lefts version of Steve "I'm Stress Testing My Navy Blues" Bannon.

Is it to let us know that the Democratic Candidate is "out of touch"?

Is it to let us know that the Democratic Candidate is "just as bad as Donnie Dipshit"?

Is it to troll by "tsk-tsking" the "momentum of the Democrats".

Is it to encourage people to either "look around for that momentum"? Maybe in a Jill Stein, or a Kanye West?

Maybe it's to validate the "Sleepy Joe" meme.

Could be, but I'm beginning to think it's more likely an attempt to discourage, distract, or demoralize Democratic Party voters.

We've seen that it only takes a few to stay home in certain areas to bring on death and autocracy.

I would be kind and say that Moore is just "trolling". But the stakes are way too high for trolling. Besides, if I want trolling, you can't beat our Dipshit in Chief. Moore's a poaker compared to the king.

He has no scientific data to back up what he's talking about, other than some yard sign examples of Donnie Dollhands cultists.

Hey! Me and my neighbor put out signs for our Democratic Congressional Candidate. One of our neighbors put out three signs in their yard for her opponent. 3 SIGNS!!! I guess we're doomed

Stories like this are designed to do nothing else but try to discourage people or make them feel hopeless.

But let me tell you what I do know.

If, after the past 4 years, by some fucking act of God, Donnie Dipshit is elected, this country is finished .

If, after all the corruption, the lies, the fraud, the rasicm and hate, the terrorism, the complete destruction of everything decent, the lawlessness, the stupidity and ignorance... and the deaths ...if after all that, a majority of Americans in enough electoral states return this prick to office, the United States will no longer exist.

You think the majority of folks in Blue States are going to hang around while he fucking punishes them... and he will punish them. Hell, he already is.

No, this ends one of two ways

Option One: He loses and the country begins the heavy lifting to repair the damage, including constitutional amendents and checks and balances with real teeth to better counter presidential abuses of power. There will also be work to be done to ensure this can't happen again, and that a backwards ass State like Kentucky doesn't have the power to shutdown the entire Senate because they continue to send Dipshits like McConnell and Rand Paul to the Senate, and to ensure that a fucking cow in Montana doesn't have more power over the country than a human living in Ohio. Elimination of the electoral college, statehood for Puerto Rico, DC, Guam, The US Virgin islands and Marianas Territory is heavy lifting, but it definitely needs to be on the table.

OptionTwo: He eeks out a narrow win and the country splinters into dozens of pieces. I wouldn't be surprised to see some Blue States requesting admission to the EU if that were to happen.

There's no way this country stays together if he were to again lose by millions of votes, but still win the presidency.

That's what's at stake.

So, forgive me if I don't give a shit how many Donnie Shit for Brains signs are on the drive from Dumbfuckistan, PA to Shithole, OH.

We vote...we WIN

We win, we have a chance to save the United States.

We get discouraged and stay home and this country is over.

[hlthe2b]

1. I want to smack him. Whatever his actual intent, he is acting to depress the vote.

[trueblue2007]

82. I can't stand what Michael Moore says about our DEM candidates. He did the same thing to Hillary

I DON'T EVEN LIKE MICHAEL MOORE ANYMORE. He is sorta sounding like Nina Turner.

[NurseJackie]

115. He's acting in his own self interests... trying to portray himself as some sort of brilliant ...

He's acting in his own self interests... trying to portray himself as some sort of brilliant political genius with "self-fulfilling" prophesies.

In reality he's just a cynic trying to pass off his juvenile rants as wisdom. And his "fans" just lap it up and perpetuate his negativity and pessimism.

In the end, he always reminds me of one of these TV psychics like Edwards or Browne. Their "misses" are always forgotten and never spoken of again, but the occasional "hit" (or even coming close to the target) are perpetually touted and trotted out as "evidence" of their abilities... as if they know what they're doing or have some special powers of perception.

Michael Moore is a complete FRAUD! He's a grifter. (And he's as big of an asshole and jerk as West and Sarandon and Uygur.)

But when it comes right down to it, here's what I'm trying to point out... His doom and gloom "predictions" and lies only serve to create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

Fuck Michael Moore!

[Beringia]

2. He speaks his mind, thank goodness

[brush]

12. Better to speak of the positives of the Dem ticket than...

to talk about that orange thug's so-called momentum don't you think?

What the hell is Moore trying to do, cast doubt about our chances again? We don't need that crap.

[Towlie]

58. Right! Happy talk makes you feel good, but reality talk makes you worry and take action!

[NNadir]

85. Yeah, thank goodness. Otherwise we might confuse him with a decent person.

[Beringia]

88. Don't listen to him then, it is a free country

[NNadir]

89. In general, I don't. The question of whether this is still a free country owes much to his....

negativity, immorality, stupidity and vicious contempt for humanity.

If there is a place in hell, given the number of people who died because Bush, it turned out, was not the same as Gore, he should be in it.

Maybe he and the devil can have a good laugh over how amusing the dead children at Columbine were.

[Demsrule86]

90. Moore should be ignored by Democrats...he has hated Democrats for years...and only stirs the

pot for his own benefit...wants the attention. He is pretty much washed up.

[Beringia]

92. Why don't you post a sign, progressives not welcome

He is a wonderful spirit and I am so grateful for his work and voice.

[Hekate]

116. That's your takeaway from the pushback? Progressives can't handle pushback? Odd, because DU....

...is chock-full of proud Progressives able to take their place in the Big Tent in a healthy exchange of ideas.

[Rustynaerduwell]

3. I really don't get the Michael Moore bashing.

He tried to warn us in 2016. Not enough people believed him. He's warning us again. And he's right to do so. There's no guarantee that Biden is going to win, and we need to be reminded of this every day.

[maxrandb]

8. We can be reminded by pointing out the death and destruction Donnie Dipshit has wrought

or we can be reminded how thrilled and enthused Donnie Dipshit voters are

[still_one]

10. Because MM NEVER misses an opportunity to bash the Democratic party or the DNC. Moore was

wrong in 2000 about a vote for Gore was a vote for bush

Moore was wrong in 2008 and 2012 when he predicted a President Romney and President McCain

At the women's march more went on a rant against the "Democratic establishment", during an event that was suppossed to unify women against trump. Ashly Judd stopped him cold in his tracks on his divisionary bullshit

After the South Carolina primary when Mayor Pete and others dropped out before Super Tuesday and endorsed Joe Biden, he spewed out a divisive messages that this SC doesn't represent anything, and the endorsements of Biden was some sort of conspiracy to derail his candidate of choice, ignoring the fact that 70% of Democrats, did not want his candidate.

The reason why there is a lot of MM bashing is the same reason that there is a lot of Ralph Nader bashing, it is his constant divisive rhetoric, and he did it again, not so much with the warning about the election should NOT be taken for granted, but the shots he took at the Democratic party and DNC. What is the point of that with a little over 60 days until the election.

If he wants to do something useful, how about working to register people to vote, and getting out the vote, instead of complaining how bad the establishment Democrats and DNC are

[comradebillyboy]

33. Well said.

[ansible]

83. So you want a sterile echo chamber with no criticism at all?

Do you realize that this is how mistakes keep getting repeated over and over again?

[still_one]

86. The only mistake was Moore's constant bashing of what he calls establishment Democrats

and the DNC.

Moore is the one who lives in his own echo chamber.

He doesn't consider himself be a Democrat, he considers himself as an independent

[Cha]

99. There is NO "sterile echo chamber".. that's just your insult.

Link to tweet

Michael Moore is an Idiot.

[dmr]

107. He was quoting White House talking points because

none of that was occurring in Tulsa - much to my amusement.

[Cha]

110. Good Point, dmr!!! TY!!

[betsuni]

11. Warning us about what?

[Dave Starsky]

63. I don't get it, either. He was dead right in 2016, and he's right now.

People who are pissed off by Michael Moore need to get off their asses and get two other people who never voted before to go through the process, get to the polls, and vote for Biden-Harris. They can either prove Moore wrong and make him eat his words or, frankly, shut the fuck up.

Hanging around DU preaching to the friends in the choir isn't going to do anything to keep what happened in 2016 from happening again, and even worse.

Michael Moore is a modern day Cassandra. People have never wanted to hear about what upsets their dearest illusions.

[Cha]

100. Moore was Dead Wrong in 2008 & 2012.. & he's Dead Wrong about

President Obama.

Michael Moore Slams Obama: HIstory Will Only Remember You Were a Black President ..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025513223

That's just GD Stupid & Racist.. & Mean Spirited.

[Dave Starsky]

102. He's 100% correct about Trump, and you can't deny it.

How he feels about Obama is just his opinion, and he's entitled to it.

[betsuni]

103. No, he's wrong.

[Cha]

104. MM is GD Stupid & Racist.. & Mean Spirited about Pres Obama & I

don't give a fuck what he has to say.

Link to tweet

[Dave Starsky]

106. We were talking about his opinions on Trump, not Obama.

And you all keep skirting that, because he was absolutely right about Trump in 2016, and he's right now.

Calling him names doesn't diminish what he said in the slightest.

[Cha]

109. Like I said.. Moore is Stupid.. "They started lining up in Tulsa for trump's

rally today.. 100,000 are expected!!!!!!!"

Link to tweet

[Dave Starsky]

112. He was wrong about attendance at that rally.

But don't think for a second they won't show up in slobbering, shambling droves at the polls.

Like I said, if you don't like Michael Moore, make him eat it on November 3rd instead of griping about him.

[Cha]

113. Moore was pushing rw talking points.. None of That Was

Happening in Tulsa.

[Cha]

94. Ask Michael Moore WHY he Bashes Dems every chance

he gets.

[Cha]

95. Moore's Epic Fail on "the Tulsa Rally"..

Link to tweet

[still_one]

4. Forget about Michael Moore. We need to focus on getting people registered to vote

If there are protests are marches going on, that is the perfect vehicle to get people registered to vote.

We have a little over 60 days, and whether the country survives on not depends on it

There are plenty of suppossed progressives sending out a discouraging message, which serves no useful purpose.

The message we MUST be focused on is getting people registered to vote, and getting them to vote early

[tman]

6. MM was wrong in 2012.

He's not an all knowning sage.

[Autumn]

14. He was right in 2016.

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-moore-predicted-trump-path-to-win-2016-11

Like him or not, Michael Moore was spot-on about the entire 2016 presidential election.
When Business Insider talked to the Oscar-winning filmmaker last December, he said that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee, which was a shocking statement to political media and party leaders at the time.

But Moore, a staunch Democrat, was even more bullish on Trump's chances when we talked to him again in May, warning that the country needed to be "deadly serious" about his run for the presidency.

"I know that they [the Trump campaign] are planning to focus on Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. That's how he can win the election," Moore said. "If he can get those upper kind of Midwestern-type states, then he can pull it off."

[tman]

61. Yeah, but he was dead wrong in 2012..

This seems more panic trolling than actual concern, as evidenced by him tweeting non-credible far right swing state polls.

[Autumn]

65. 2012 resulted in Obama being elected again. The results of 2016 is a different story.

What you consider panic trolling, others consider a valid warning. I for one do not trust Republicans or secure voting, Trump is already fucking with mail in voting and nothing is being done about that.

[AkFemDem]

7. Every time you don't like the message...

It doesn’t mean Putin is somehow involved 🙄 It really weakens and undermines the very real Russian involvement when people pretend there’s a Russian behind every nay sayer.

[cilla4progress]

9. Agree

I think MM is panicked...like the rest of us


He is a patriot.

[brush]

15. The point is Moore does this "Chicken Little" routine every...

four years about how the Democrats are blowing it and the repugs have momentum. In 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012 and 2016. Google it. He only got it "right" becau se of repug cheating with Putin's help and Comey to squeeze out an EC win by 77k votes. Remember Hillary acually got more votes.

Moore does this everytime and we should all be wary of him.

[USALiberal]

20. +1000! nt

[Autumn]

13. We voted in 2016. Moore is right, Donnie Shit for Brains can win again.

He has the media and that gives him momentum. You may not want to hear it but it's fucking possible.

[brush]

17. See post 15. Moore does this every four years. Do what you...

can to get out the vote so his predictable, every four year, anti-Dem prediction doesn't come true.

[Autumn]

21. See post #14 and tell me that didn't fucking happen. nt

[brush]

22. What didn't happen, that repugs cheated with Putin's help...

and Comey's letter? Moore does his "Chicken Little" routine every four years as if he doesn't want Dems to win (Google it, '00, '04, '08, '12, '16). Just do what you can to get out the vote so we don't lose our democracy to that fascist, orange thug in the WH now.

[Autumn]

24. Putin didn't put in the electoral college. And in spite of POS Comey, Hillary won by over 3 million

votes. That's why we lost.

[brush]

26. You actually think Putin/Russian bots didn't influence the...

the 2016 EC win of 77k votes in three mid-western states? You actually believe that?

Pay no attention to "Chicken Little" Moore. He does this every four years—"Oh woe is me, Dems are blowing it again. Repugs have all the momentum."

[Autumn]

28. Doesn't matter what I believe. I'm smart enought to know propaganda when I see it.

What I see is these fucking Trump humpers here are getting more supportive of him every day. And they are real people, not fucking Russian bots.

[brush]

32. Ya think Moore isn't a trump humper? Or is it more politically...

correct to call him a dooms-dayer predicting that Dems are blowing every four years?

[Autumn]

35. Do you want to discuss what I said about Trump humpers here in CO or just complain about Moore?

[brush]

37. There are some here, no doubt.

[betsuni]

43. MM: "I've come to the conclusion that the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to

social progress than Trump is."

[Autumn]

45. IF that's his opinion he's welcome to it. I happen to disagree but what he said in 2016 was right.

Like him or not, Michael Moore was spot-on about the entire 2016 presidential election.
When Business Insider talked to the Oscar-winning filmmaker last December, he said that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee, which was a shocking statement to political media and party leaders at the time.

But Moore, a staunch Democrat, was even more bullish on Trump's chances when we talked to him again in May, warning that the country needed to be "deadly serious" about his run for the presidency.

"I know that they [the Trump campaign] are planning to focus on Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. That's how he can w

in the election," Moore said. "If he can get those upper kind of Midwestern-type states, then he can pull it off."

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-moore-predicted-trump-path-to-win-2016-11

[betsuni]

49. So?

[Autumn]

50. Yeah, so.

[betsuni]

52. And?

[Autumn]

54. And what? It almost seems you don't want to discuss the topic and my posts on it.

I almost wonder why?

[betsuni]

56. And as always, have the last word.

[Autumn]

57. And as always betsuni, i'm gonna give you the last word if it's that's imperative.

[betsuni]

60. The only way I can get the last word is to say, "I was a little bit busy running around the country"

so can't comment. It's authentic and consistent.

[theaocp]

16. I'm acting like we're behind.

Keeping the panic up through the election is sound policy these days.

[brush]

36. GOTV as if we're behind but don't panick as that can lead to mistakes.

Lets keep doing what we can to get out the vote and don't listen "woe is us, Chicken Little" naysayers like Moore who can discourage voters with their "Dems are blowing it again" routine. He does it every four years.

[USALiberal]

18. LOL, ok! nt

[betsuni]

19. Moore thinks Trump is an "evil genius" when senile Trump can't remember anything.

Moore always thinks Republicans are going to win because he's under the impression that Americans carefully inspect the party platforms and decide Democrats aren't progressive enough so they're not going to vote or vote Republican. Fucking ridiculous.

[DSandra]

29. Thinking that Trump is completely stupid is foolish

Yes Trump is an idiot in many things but intelligence is complex and Trump has shown to be a master of manipulation, and a master of knowing how to make chaos. You underestimate him at your own peril. Plus, he likely has help from Putin, other goons from Russia, and evil geniuses in the Republican Party.

[betsuni]

38. Nope. He's stupid.

PERIL

[DSandra]

44. He's done a hostile takeover of the Republican Party

And is pretty much immune to attacks that individually would take down most regular politicians. You don’t think there’s a fair bit of intelligence in that?

[betsuni]

46. No, it's instinct like an animal. No thinking. This is my theory.

It's mostly luck, accidental. The things that fly out of his mouth aren't planned. Republican voters don't actually like Republican policies and Trump just happened to say things that they liked, along with the racism and sexism.

[Polybius]

98. He's good at riling up a crowd, and had good lines in debates

Not sure if that's a level of intelligence though.

[anamnua]

105. Like Detective Columbo

his intelligence lies in disguising his intelligence.

[Towlie]

62. Right! If Trump isn't an evil genius then how vulnerable would America be to an actual evil genius?

If you regard Trump as stupid and also consider the damage he's done and threatens to do in the future, the only logical conclusion is that there's no hope.

[betsuni]

64. Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell -- evil geniuses.

They wanted to destroy government and got away with it. Trump is too obvious.

[DSandra]

72. Yet is anyone stopping him?

[ehrnst]

75. Suggestions on how to do so, since Barr is in his pocket?

[DSandra]

73. The populace has the memory of a goldfish...

The Republican Party wouldn’t be so successful if that were not the case. America doesn’t learn from its voting mistakes. So yeah, no hope I guess.

[brush]

39. Yep, you can set your clock every four years by Moore's prediction...

that Dems are blowing it.

[Ferrets are Cool]

23. He is attempting to get people out to vote. WTF is wrong with that??

[kcr]

66. It doesn't work

You don't get out the vote by demoralizing and depressing. You get out the vote by pumping up enthusiasm.

[Ferrets are Cool]

70. sigh

Not worth arguing over.

[JI7]

84. Why didn't do the same thing to get people to vote for Sanders ?

[anamnua]

25. I think MM gets a unfair bad press here

As a serial follower of his YouTube clips it is clear that he is viscerally anti-Trump (comparing the rise of Trumpism to the rise of Nazism in 30’s Germany); was quite pro-Hillary last time out; has a political outlook that accords with the party platform; and simply wants to guard against complacency.

[betsuni]

30. Then why did he say this:

"I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is."

And thinking the 2016 primaries were rigged, all Democrats are bribed and corrupt, etc.

He makes his own bad press.

[FakeNoose]

42. I know Bernie-Bros who say pretty much the same thing

Is Michael Moore a Bernie-Bro? I don't know but I can guess.

[betsuni]

51. Yes. It's a shame because documentary filmmakers should be able to be objective.

And know fantasy from reality. I feel sorry for him.

[Thekaspervote]

53. Bashing Hillary and more recently Biden..yes he deserves bad press and a lot of it!!

He hangs out with jill stein, cornell west, susan sarandon, nina turner who recently said “voting for Biden is like eating half a shit sandwich.”

Has he lent his name to the Biden/Harris ticket? Campaigned for them? Donated? Crickets!!

No thanks..he’s nothing more than a glorified wanna be armchair politician, and a crappy one at that

[kcr]

67. He deserves every bit of it. Sorry.

[NNadir]

87. Well some of us are a little upset with all those dead Iraqi human beings that took place...

...because of his endorsement of "Bush is the same as Gore!"

I don't think the children with their arms and legs blown off necessarily would agree.

He is not a Democrat; he hates Democrats and despite his lack of intellectual clarity, his smug but ludicrous sense of moral superiority, printed brightly in the blood of dead Americans and dead Iraqis, he has no moral credibility whatsoever.

He's obscene.

[Cha]

96. No, Michael Moore gets what he deserves.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

27. Lmao that Putin would give a shit about Michael Moore.

[Gothmog]

31. I do not pay attention to this person

I have no respect for Michael Moore. I turn off the TV or change channels when this person is on

[Trumpocalypse]

34. Moore is still stuck in the 1960s

He is not and has never an ally of the Democratic Party.

[fishwax]

40. Moore wants everyone to get as many people as they can to vote. He's not working for Putin.

[comradebillyboy]

41. It seeems that Michale Moore's mission is to demoralize

Democrats as much as he possibly can. He may hate Trump but he definitely hates the Democratic party as well.

[Thekaspervote]

48. This!! Let's not forgot just how recently he bashed Biden..and the trail behind including HRC

[Baclava]

47. I think everyone is forgetting the most important thing, he was a Bernie supporter from the start

"Joe Biden is the center, he's this years Hillary. He's not going to excite the base to get out there and vote in November"

-Michael Moore Oct 2019

[betsuni]

55. And he went on and on about how if it wasn't Bernie it HAD to be a celebrity.

Oprah, Michelle Obama, the Sully airplane guy. Trying to make it about personality when it's about the non-crazy-radical party. In 2016 they successfully made it about personality. Not happening this year.

[Baclava]

59. Even better, said he was "shocked" when Biden "swung to the left" with the Harris VP pick

He's pretty much unhappy with anything Joe does, I guess

[betsuni]

68. He'll do the usual both-sides thing until the last minute when he'll tell "progressives" to vote

for Biden, after spending years claiming "the establishment" is corrupt. I wonder if he has any supporters left.

[JI7]

81. Of course. That way he can take credit both ways.

He can claim credit for a win and said he was warning everyone if there is a loss. But he won't bring up cheating by Republicans. It will be about how the party failed to reach out those poor white "non racists" that Hillary forced to vote for a racist becsuse of speeches.

Many of us can see through that whole act now.

Same shit every election season.

[JI7]

76. And how come he didn't warn about the HUGE losses Sanders was going to face

People keep saying he was right but he wasn't right about the primary.

Why didn't he do the doom and gloom act as a way to warn Sanders he was losing ?

[Baclava]

78. Why are you asking me? lol, He's a true Bernie believer, i guess

[mzmolly]

69. It appears that Biden has the post convention advantage.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-favorability-perceptions-covid-19-response-stagnate-post/story?id=72705268

[BannonsLiver]

71. Moore WANTS Trump to win

He desperately wants it. Trump in office is good for Michael Moore Inc. Had not considered the Russian angle, but given that Moore is 50 pounds of dog shit in a 10 pound bag it’s entirely possible. He’s a terrible human being and a fraud.

[hunter]

74. Michael Moore is a lot like Ralph Nader. His ego frequently leads him astray.

I doubt Putin is involved in any way.

[Willto]

77. My Take on Moore

First, I do not understand why he gets so much credit for saying Trump could win in 2016. He predicts the Democratic candidate for president will lose every election. If you predict the Republican to win every election eventually you will be right. It would be like me predicting that a plane is going to crash. And I keep making that prediction every week. Eventually I am going to be right because that is something that unfortunately is going to happen at some point. Does that make me an airline expert? A psychic? Hardly. If I walk in a casino every day and bet the number 21 at the roulette table and finally after losing 264 straight days the number 21 finally hits on day 265 do you proclaim me to be a gambling expert? Someone highly skilled that can teach you about betting?

Here is basically what he does. He talks this doom and gloom Democrats better do this stuff every election. If we win he goes on a tv tour patting himself on the back for forewarning us in time to save the election. If we lose he goes on an "I told you so" tv tour lamenting how his warnings went unheeded. It's a bogus win win scenario designed to make him appear to be right no matter what happens. The truth is that he and his opinions are irrelevant and are of no consequence one way or the other. Not one US election in his lifetime would have gone down any different if he had never been born. Sorry, that's the truth.

And lastly what are we to do based on his comments? Does he really think that anyone engaged enough to even hear his words are taking this election so lightly or over confidently that we aren't going bother to vote or do all that we can to help Biden win? I find the implication insulting. And furthermore I feel like the negativity of his comments are more likely to dissuade people from voting than spur them towards it. I don't think I have ever witnessed the man talk on TV in which he didn't spent more time disparaging the Democratic party than the Republicans. The old phrase that starts "With Friends Like These..." comes to mind.

We have enough on our hands with Trump and his cult followers squared off in front of us. It would sure be nice under the circumstances to not have to keep glancing over our shoulder to see if Michael Moore is easing around behind our back again with a butchers knife in his hand.

[The Magistrate]

80. Well Said, Sir

Welcome to the forum.

[JI7]

79. Michael Moore got 2020 Primary SOOOO Fucking Wrong

Anyone know why he didn't Warn Sanders about the huge losses he was facing in the Primary ?

Remember how he was on the shows after Iowa and New Hampshire ?

[Cha]

101. Excellent point! Why didn't Moore Get BUSY WARNING

them?!

I remember a Stupid tweet of his Slamming Joe Biden.

[radius777]

91. I'm no fan of MM but think he offers a legit critique,

because he understands the crucial Midwestern states and how the white working class voters (which we do need at least a good portion of) think.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/29/michael-moore-donald-trump-repeat-2016-warning

The documentary film-maker Michael Moore has warned that Donald Trump appears to have such momentum in some battleground states that liberals risk a repeat of 2016 when many wrote off Trump only to see him grab the White House.

“Sorry to have to provide the reality check again,” he said.

Moore, one of few political observers to predict Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016, said that “enthusiasm for Trump is off the charts” in key areas compared with the Democratic party nominee, Joe Biden.

“Are you ready for a Trump victory? Are you mentally prepared to be outsmarted by Trump again? Do you find comfort in your certainty that there is no way Trump can win? Are you content with the trust you’ve placed in the DNC [Democratic National Committee] to pull this off?” Moore posted on Facebook late on Friday.

Moore identified opinion polling in battleground states such as Minnesota and Michigan to make a case that the sitting president is running alongside or ahead of his rival.

“The Biden campaign just announced he’ll be visiting a number of states – but not Michigan. Sound familiar?” Moore wrote, presumably indicating Hillary Clinton’s 2016 race when she made the error of avoiding some states that then swung to Trump.

The Midwest is not the Dem stronghold it once was, white voters have moved rightward (and Trump's fear tactics work with many of them), and there is voter suppression to stop liberal constitutencies (youth, PoC, etc) from voting.

Biden/Dems need to fight like our lives depended on it for those states. We can afford to lose MN and/or WI (especially if we win FL) but must win both PA and MI.

[Cha]

93. "Has anyone checked on Michael Moore and his epic fail tonight?"

Link to tweet

Thank you, maxrandb

[Polybius]

97. Nothing, he's just very far to the left

He doesn't like the mainstream candidates we put up for President. He wants an extremist.

[onetexan]

111. I can't stand this guy M. Moore. He's an attention hog like the Idiot 45.

[aikoaiko]

108. I appreciate MM -- the warnings are to help us, not hurt us.

I don't always agree with MM, but yeah, we can still lose the midwest if we're not careful and dedicated to recruiting switchover voters and getting out the vote from people who are demographically Democrat but don't vote.

[octoberlib]

114. This is Moore's shtick. He said that Romney would win in 2012

and Republicans would keep control of the House in 2018.